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Wow, the patch still isn't out? Every time I see this thread bumped, I get excited. I just want to be able to play this game with more than one other person.
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The No Holds Barred Castle Crashers Official Thread of Broken Netcode and Crash Bugs
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Time for a petition or class action lawsuit to get our momney back, or at least a refund of 800 M$ points. This game is not remotely worth 1200 M$ points for the shit netcode. I really should've read this thread before buying it. I had no idea that Crashers in the title meant the games would keep crashing.
I would be way less angry if this game wasn't sold with online multiplayer as one of the top features.
If the bug was something minor that is one thing but it's the main reason a lot of people bought it! That is the kind of thing you have to fix way faster than a normal update would take.
If the bug was something minor that is one thing but it's the main reason a lot of people bought it! That is the kind of thing you have to fix way faster than a normal update would take.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Releasing the DLC for free to anyone who bought the game before the patch would go a long way as a good will gesture, but I'm guessing they would never do that.
IcebergSlim3000
Member
MMaRsu said:
Gonna have to agree. They really fucked up as far as I'm concerned, and still no damn patch.
Annihilator
Member
IcebergSlim3000 said:
I agree as well and will follow through with what I say. Any game for xbla that has a huge multiplayer component will never be purchased day one for me anymore. I have to now check the forums after the game comes and see all the suckers who buy every game day one to see if the online portion of the game is working correctly.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
My first purchased XBLA title. Great fun.
gregor7777
Banned
Cocopjojo said:
Same here, I'm keeping an eye out because I really only want the game for the multi.
Shame really.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Duke Nukem 3D works near flawlessly online, and that's with 8 players at once.
What the heck guys?
What the heck guys?
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Welp, I'm never playing this game again. By the time the update comes out I'll likely have gotten a new 360 and with little intention of redownloading this game.
Iced_Eagle
Member
legend166 said:
Yet they state that there are people staying behind to finish up the update.
Anyways, it is a shame that the game is really broken. Not sure how it passed cert actually, and I hope MS takes a look at their process to catch bugs like these.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Beat the game with only two players. Anything higher than that would always crash. Pretty retarded that there still isn't a patch out, considering I convinced three other friends to buy the game so that we could play 4 player co-op.
The sad part is that this is a GREAT game. The bugs that used to only affect PC games has unfortunately crept onto consoles this generation.
The sad part is that this is a GREAT game. The bugs that used to only affect PC games has unfortunately crept onto consoles this generation.
Psychotext
Member
A real shame. I've never experienced any problems... but I specifically avoided online multiplayer to make sure that was the case.
Throwaway123456789
Member
g35twinturbo said:
This. I'm seriously shocked at how they've handled this. There's no excuse for bugs like these to slip through testing. Did they even TEST this online?! The patch won't be released for A MONTH?! Possibly more?!
UNACCEPTABLE.
I agree with the above posters; I'm never buying anything from these guys again until I've checked around on the net to see if their game actually WORKS.
The whole situation is ridiculous. I was really looking forward to playing this coop with my cousin over Live, but it's a chore and a frustrating experince to even attempt such a thing. We've both pretty much lost interest now, and that's a damn shame.
Give us some god damned compensation.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Yeah, how do we get our money back? Not only was this game broken, but it was really fucking expensive for an XBL game. I can see that the game itself was pretty good, but when the USP doesn't even work for me I start to feel utterly shortchanged.
The Behemoth's website should be empty, apart from a patch countdown timer and an apology. No, I don't want to know where you're off to with my fucking money that I paid for a broken product that you can't fix. I don't want to see cute little statues of your broken game. I DO NOT want to hear about DLC for your broken game, no fucking way. Summer of XBL? I'd settle for an autumn with CC...
The Behemoth's website should be empty, apart from a patch countdown timer and an apology. No, I don't want to know where you're off to with my fucking money that I paid for a broken product that you can't fix. I don't want to see cute little statues of your broken game. I DO NOT want to hear about DLC for your broken game, no fucking way. Summer of XBL? I'd settle for an autumn with CC...
ShockingAlberto
Member
If there was a retail game this buggy, Wal-Mart would take it back.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
I wouldn't call this game broken if people (including myself) actually got to play the game online, with 3 other players to boot. I personally didn't experience anything that inexplicably booted us or prevented us from even connecting to one another, and none of us lost our weapons / pets / save files. We did encounter a few bugs however, but those were mostly gameplay related.
Note: I did ask all of my co-op buddies beforehand how their good Internet connection was and especially whether they had an Open NAT, since I did read that the game's pretty picky when it comes to NAT conditions. I suggest you all do the same (as in: making sure everyone has an Open NAT) before calling the game completely unplayable over Xbox Live.
Still a pity this whole situation occurred though, and that Microsoft is seemingly stalling the patch so long thanks to their "strict" certification process.
Note: I did ask all of my co-op buddies beforehand how their good Internet connection was and especially whether they had an Open NAT, since I did read that the game's pretty picky when it comes to NAT conditions. I suggest you all do the same (as in: making sure everyone has an Open NAT) before calling the game completely unplayable over Xbox Live.
Still a pity this whole situation occurred though, and that Microsoft is seemingly stalling the patch so long thanks to their "strict" certification process.
ToyMachine228
Member
FoxHimself said:
I seriously doubt there will be any sort of compensation. The BEST case scenario would be The Behemoth releasing free DLC for the game when they get around to DLC. But I could see that being quite far off. And by then no one will care.
baphometbones
Member
I checked the rules for the forum policy of linking to blogs and didn't see anything related to it so I hope I'm not breaking any rules here but I just finished up a rather long post in mine about the whole situation, here's an excerpt:
If you're interested in reading more, the full post is here.
GotchaForce
Member
ToyMachine228 said:
So I attempted to get a refund through Microsoft this past week for CC. Unfortunately, after carefully explaining that what I purchased (an online capable beat-em-up) was fundamentally flawed, they got back to me today and let me know that I should rejoice, as a patch is on its way this Fall.
Seriously? The woman who called me to let me know clearly expected me to be happy. I am happy they are fixing it, but does Microsoft not understand that most games kind of... fizzle away? I wanted to play this day 1 (when I bought it) with two of my friends across the country (who I also convinced to get it for the same reason).
Instead, we've all moved on to other things, and none of us play the thing. It's pretty outrageous that this is to be considered "OK". Patching a bug is one thing, but to take this long fixing what I consider to be the main selling point of the game? Ugh.
First purchase from The Behemoth. Not surprisingly, also the last.
Seriously? The woman who called me to let me know clearly expected me to be happy. I am happy they are fixing it, but does Microsoft not understand that most games kind of... fizzle away? I wanted to play this day 1 (when I bought it) with two of my friends across the country (who I also convinced to get it for the same reason).
Instead, we've all moved on to other things, and none of us play the thing. It's pretty outrageous that this is to be considered "OK". Patching a bug is one thing, but to take this long fixing what I consider to be the main selling point of the game? Ugh.
First purchase from The Behemoth. Not surprisingly, also the last.
BobFromPikeCreek
Member
GAF sure knows how to overreact.
BobFromPikeCreek said:
How is expecting a refund for a broken product overreacting? Granted, I do not have enough time to deal with pushing them any more, but if this were a bigger investment, I'd definitely take it further.
I don't hate the guys at The Behemoth. I'm sure they're great guys. But do they deserve my money for their faulty product? No, no they don't.
As was said before, they should have just pushed back the release date- this was a glaring problem (honestly, I do not know how it got past QA).
so I was lvl20 or so and took my profile via mem card over to a friends to play and when we started to play I was a lvl1 again. I thought no big deal different 360 and continued to play levelling up to lvl15. When I got back home and loaded up my profile I was back to lvl1.
what the shit hell
what the shit hell
PedroLumpy
Member
The game reliably deletes my data every time I play. Behemoth never helped me, but I did find a way to reload the data from some post on Giant Bomb.
Obviously trolling around internet forums should not be a prerequisite for being able to play a game. They didn't sell what was advertised, so asking for some compensation is not unreasonable.
Obviously trolling around internet forums should not be a prerequisite for being able to play a game. They didn't sell what was advertised, so asking for some compensation is not unreasonable.
I'm gonna go ahead and throw a log into this fire too. Much lost respect for The Behemoth. It's not like I don't believe that they're working on it, I'm sure they are. But I think the bigger thing is, the magic is gone. All the hard work they spent working on this fantastic, charming, incredible game (I would only know from my massive 3 hour session I spent with it on the first weekend it dropped) has gone down the drain, along with their reputation.
I guess the sad part is, I'm still down to play it, but most of my friends have already moved on. Perhaps when this fix is finally out, gaf can put together a "no child left behind" for CC. Give everyone who got jack moved out of playing it right the first time a chance to have the proper fun with it.
I guess the sad part is, I'm still down to play it, but most of my friends have already moved on. Perhaps when this fix is finally out, gaf can put together a "no child left behind" for CC. Give everyone who got jack moved out of playing it right the first time a chance to have the proper fun with it.
afternoon delight
Member
Well, this game is the perfect relaxing-thing for me. Saturday nights after parties, four of us sit down and drunk-play. It's still fun as hell.
robot
Member
pCeSlAyEr said:so I was lvl20 or so and took my profile via mem card over to a friends to play and when we started to play I was a lvl1 again. I thought no big deal different 360 and continued to play levelling up to lvl15. When I got back home and loaded up my profile I was back to lvl1.
what the shit hell
try starting a game, then at the character select screen exit back to the title screen, log off your profile, then back on, then back to character select screen. that only seems to work on my game now.
PedroLumpy
Member
neonglow said:
Sure thing, forgive my excessive detail just in case you know?
1. DO NOT START A LOCAL GAME, check your player stats and make sure your data is gone (Only Knights unlocked and every character should be level 1)
2. Once you confirmed your data is gone, start a standard (no arena/quaff) Xboxlive match. All the normal options should be fine. 4 players, secret characters, etc. all the defaults should be good.
3. Once you have started the match, toggle yourself ready, and then exit out back to the main menu.
4. Check your stats, everything should be restored. NOW you may start a Local game, assuming your data is back.
N.B.
Starting a Local game BEFORE these steps are taken will cause your data to be permanently lost. Get in the habit of going to your player stats first thing when starting up the game.
If you have some questions as you go, feel free to ask again, I might have forgotten something. My Xbox isn't right next to me so this is from memory.
PedroLumpy
Member
pCeSlAyEr said:thanks guys, but im afraid that info came too late
atleast I know if it happens again.
There's a trick to getting some quick exp if you're curious......
(questionable game mechanic exploitation to follow)
It involves using the boomerang to kill the catfish. Throw just before it rises out of the water at the start and you can get the boomerang stuck behind him it it'll eventually kill him for massive exp's. Youtube search it, that'll show you better than I can explain.
Oh and you get the boomerang by taking the cardinal to the thieves forest. Hidden early on by the crapping owl I think.
Oh and you get the boomerang by taking the cardinal to the thieves forest. Hidden early on by the crapping owl I think.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
I assume you all checked each other's NAT conditions then, if you and your friends couldn't connect with each other? That might be the problem...poweld said:
Right. I'll just blame it on "baldie's" less than optimal internet connection (since he had 3 yellow bars and you were in the green IIRC) then. ;pKibs said:Guess you forgot about when me, you and a certain bald guy tried to play together and had constant disconnects
MicVlaD said:
Correct in your assumption. The three of us all forwarded the necessary ports to eliminate the need for that pesky NAT traversal, and still would lose our connection without fail after 10-15 minutes, tops.
In addition, I lost all my weapons and animal orbs after playing online with my bud. Can you see now why I feel a little disappointed in this purchase? :lol
Edag Plata
Banned
Anyone have any extra points lying around so I can get this?
bigdaddygamebot
Member
ToyMachine228 said:
Care is diminishing rapidly. Fable II and Fallout 3 ( and the zillion other games coming out) will devour whatever care is left...
huh
so if i have my gamertag on my memory card, and i go into the living room to my roommates xbox, login under my name, and then re-download castle crashers, and proceed to play for awhile (starting at level 1 because the it's a new save game obviously) and play until i get to level 13...
and then i come back to my xbox to play... my level 53 is gone and i'm at level 13
fuck
so if i have my gamertag on my memory card, and i go into the living room to my roommates xbox, login under my name, and then re-download castle crashers, and proceed to play for awhile (starting at level 1 because the it's a new save game obviously) and play until i get to level 13...
and then i come back to my xbox to play... my level 53 is gone and i'm at level 13
fuck
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
i saw this thread on the front page again.....hoping to see news of a patch
and no news of patch..
and now I am sad...geez how long does it fricken take....
and no news of patch..
and now I am sad...geez how long does it fricken take....