Spiritwalker
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A glitch will be found. I'll be very surprised if nobody finds a way to do it in less than 20 hours.
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The Witcher 3 speedrun takes devs about 25 hours
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MaximusPayne
Member
Cool, so the Witcher then.
nickthebiggeek
Member
Seeing how devs like to exaggerate play times, we are looking at a game that can be finished in 15 hours...
Not for the average person. I will probably spend that much time in just a section or two of the first area.
Risk Breaker
Member
Sounds like Inquisition.
Denton
Member
Good thing that not every dev is Bioware then.
Christ what the fuck have you done, Bioware.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Yeah, this doesn't sound right to me at all. If someone who knows exactly what they're doing can complete the main game in 25 hours then a new player will probably come in around twice that, and I don't believe there will be 40-50 hours ordinary story content for the average player unless there's a lot of tedious and poor quest design.
But then, devs always exaggerate their game length by 50-100% when talking about it pre-release.
His Majesty
Banned
Every preview I have read so far was really impressed with the quality of the side quests so not concerned on that front.
GravityMan
Member
It wouldn't surprise me if some people finished The Witcher 3 in 25 hours by just playing normally, sticking to the main quest and NOT speedrunning. Devs always exaggerate how long it takes to play through a game. I don't think "50-100 hours of content" is as big of a selling point these days compared to 10 years ago. Especially among consumers who are in their late 20s and older and don't have oodles of free time on their hands...they care more about the pacing and quality of the content.
I'm starting to think that CDPR is trying a bit TOO hard recently to market The Witcher 3...they seem almost desperate to communicate that the game is precisely "this", "this" and not "that". That may make some people feel a bit suspicious and skeptical...is the actual game genuinely what the devs are pitching. Hype and marketing are important things...but at the same time, the best games tend to "sell themselves" and stand on their own two feet without an overabundance of detailed blabbering from their devs and pubs.
I'm starting to think that CDPR is trying a bit TOO hard recently to market The Witcher 3...they seem almost desperate to communicate that the game is precisely "this", "this" and not "that". That may make some people feel a bit suspicious and skeptical...is the actual game genuinely what the devs are pitching. Hype and marketing are important things...but at the same time, the best games tend to "sell themselves" and stand on their own two feet without an overabundance of detailed blabbering from their devs and pubs.
Basileus777
Member
That sounds horrifying. Thankfully it's probably not true.
velociraptor
Junior Member
The talk of this game taking forever to complete is why I'm rapidly losing interest in W3.
I barely have time to play games anymore and this honestly sounds like a chore to play.
The W2 is already bad enough with its filler side quests.
I barely have time to play games anymore and this honestly sounds like a chore to play.
The W2 is already bad enough with its filler side quests.
Wat.gif
Believe me when I say that someone somewhere will find some kind of loop or hole in the level/game design that will help them to pass on most of the major events, especially due to its open-world and open-ended conversations natures. Some people managed to speedrun Dragon Age Origins in less than 1 hour (with similar features) and same applies for Bloodborne (as a latest release). All games have a minium of holes and loops that can help people reach and beat those times in pretty much any kind of game.
So... good luck with that CD Projekt!! Don't cry if someone manage to do it under 10, or even 5.
Why is this an on-going narrative? 30% bigger than Skyrim =/= more content. Witcher devs say ~150 hours of content. I played Skyrim around ~270 hours before I even installed my first mod.
Well, they do have different Art Direction that appeals to different tastes and type of people, but since Bloodborne is a SCE IP-owned PS4 exclusive and Witcher 3 is coming out on PC, I would say Witcher 3.
But when it comes to the whole picture of the game... I guess that Witcher 3, being a multiplatform game, will have to prove if its chosen aliasing, framerate (and pacing) and art direction throughout the game will remain consistent and well placed in the existing universe (Witcher) versus Bloodborne's current art direction, technical performance and details (when it comes to visuals).
SixMachine
Member
The longest speedruns take a while because of unskippable cutscenes, like FF9 at AGDQ (or was it SGDQ). If it takes them 25 hours at the fastest even without exploits and just trying only to optimize time, then it sounds like there is a lot of fluff. Of course it's likely they are exagerrating the speed run time.
I hope not... some people will actually try to hold them on these words and bash on the need of that planned and ''removed'' (to be downloadable) content.
Personally, I want a huge game with legs that I can keep going back to for a long time. That is something I still value in a time where so many games are considered throw away, like an empty bag after finishing the snack that it once contained after a day or two of consuming.
But yeah, I imagine that if it is even half as big as they claim, then it will be a huge negative for many. It seems like more and more people want that quick, but satisfying snack, instead of something that they can enjoy in bites over a longer period. Something you can return to a year later in order to enjoy more of the world you missed and then play a huge expansion. Give me that shelf life and bang for my buck.
But yeah, I imagine that if it is even half as big as they claim, then it will be a huge negative for many. It seems like more and more people want that quick, but satisfying snack, instead of something that they can enjoy in bites over a longer period. Something you can return to a year later in order to enjoy more of the world you missed and then play a huge expansion. Give me that shelf life and bang for my buck.
In a world that is 3.5 times the size of Skyrim for the landmass alone, I can't imagine it having even less content. Either way, the game sounds like it is going to be ridiculously big.
Don't really like the focus on how big the game is or the comparisons to Skyrim. Skyrim is just a really lifeless sandbox - it's wonderful if you just like to go around killing bandits and making armor for 50 hours, but as far as, impactful stories, Skyrim is really lacking. I've been hoping that going open world won't dilute the story and atmosphere of The Witcher 3.
Testers don't do AGDQ style speedruns...
It's like saying that Nintendo QA back in the 90s was only doing the 20min glitch run of OoT when it was in QA... Doesn't make any sense.
What they call speedruns are actually "Fast Playthroughs"... Which means they play the game "normaly" without glitch or anything like that but the quickest and most efficient way possible. Aka skip convos, cutscenes etc, but you still play the whole game.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Those are testers, I remember a Bethesda QA tester beating Skyrim in 2 hours and websites reporting that.
theprodigy
Member
I see a 2:18:17 speedrun on Hard...apparently this is before a patch that put in unskippable cutscenes though
Witcher 3 to have 24 hours of unskippable cutscenes confirmed
well, let's hope it features skippable cut scenes. btw, what's the current record for the order?
Welfare
Member
Fuck that.
This
mgs2master2
Banned
Was just about to says this. Lol
"The witcher 3 is only 25 hours long according to the developers"
Portugeezer
Member
This is one of those games I will play endlessly and never complete. But, I am ok with that.
ok, that's just petty. unskippable cutscenes should've died looooong ago. why are developers/publishers so afraid of speedrunning?
What qualifies as "meaningless bullshit"?
How you determine that? Lets say main story took 25h for dev then we can argue that for player on easy it will take ~20h to do main story only which sounds reasonable for RPG. How it means game is bloated?
Or are you referring to their previous claim about 200h of content? Even then it's really up to individual opinion how much of it is bloating and will depend on how engaging that side stuff is.
Here is Q&A with level designer where he pretty much says that everything in Witcher 3 is handcrafted by devs and there is no duplicate content [environment, quests...]; http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/34251-Developer-Spotlight-Miles-Tost?p=1574325&viewfull=1 If everything truly is handcrafted and unique I think exploring and seeing it will be worth the time.
HawksWinStanley
Member
What game is Witcher comparable to?
I loved Skyrim (my first ES game), mainly because it was a massive world with a ton of the random interactions/battles/missions you just stumble upon while walking through an area. Am I right in assuming Witcher has that kind of stuff too?
I loved Skyrim (my first ES game), mainly because it was a massive world with a ton of the random interactions/battles/missions you just stumble upon while walking through an area. Am I right in assuming Witcher has that kind of stuff too?
SneakyStephan
Banned
Don't lie dennis, you'll play the game with the DoF at 400 percent intensity, take some screenshots of the first areas then never play it again
Can we he honest for a second
Even if the game is only 30-40 hours thats still an INSANELY long campaign compared to what single player games have pumped out in the last 5 years
Also, remember that this 25h is with SKIPPING ALL CUTSCENES AND DIALOGUE. Who the hell skips dialogue and cutscenes in an RPG on their first playthrough? It would be like skipping shooting sections in a shooter and only watching the cutscenes
inb4 The Order:1886 joke
I always do ALL the sidequests and listen to all dialogue on my first Witcher playthrough. I believe that TW3 might actually take me 100 hours or more to fully complete, providing I don't break and decide to use fast travel. FT probably cuts down on a lot of gameplay time.
Yeah, probably. I do think that there is going to be some backlash over the quest design regardless. One thing I've come to learn after reading various RPG forums and even here on GAF is that there are a lot of different opinions about what a fetch quest is. Some people slap that label on any quest where you are helping an NPC. People like that are most certainly going to be disappointed.