wow, armor and skins, this is what the gaming world was looking out for.
hey its free.
why make such a big deal out of it. its just some small pieces of junk. if it were some story-dlc, my jaw would have dropped but in this case....
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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt -- 16 free DLCs for everyone!
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wow, armor and skins, this is what the gaming world was looking out for.
hey its free.
why make such a big deal out of it. its just some small pieces of junk. if it were some story-dlc, my jaw would have dropped but in this case....
BouncyFrag
Member
Yup! Hopefully all cross-gen crap will be behind us and we're neck deep in the good stuff like this.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Yeah I see this mostly as a PR stunt.
They have had a ton of dev time for these cosmetics, and there's no way for us to tell if they purposely removed content from disc to act as DLC or not.
I like Witcher and preordered Witcher 3 two years ago, but calling this a free DLC when it's usually just a patch, this seems like a PR stunt.
Ultimately I completely agree with you.
However I also completely understand why some people feel the way they do about this whole scenario. I'm not saying you are insulted, or you should feel insulted, I'm just saying that I can see why someone could feel insulted by the scenario.
I would have preferred them find a different solution (like what I described), but they're still opting to give this stuff away for free when other developers out there would have charged for it, and that's great.
Its crazy how black and white some of you need to make everything. I don't feel anybody needs to shit them at all. I'm certainly not.
Denton
Member
It is anything but black or white, as I wrote in the rest of the post which you ignored.
It is both a PR stunt, and a good friendly move towards gamers.
Frankly, when one looks at DLC/Price/DRM policies of all the major AAA games coming out, and compares them to CDP and their approach to Witcher 3, CDP is so far ahead in customer friendliness it's not even funny. Actually... it is very sad.
I did not ignore the rest of your post. I don't disagree with most of what you wrote. Which makes it even more apparent you haven't really grasped what I was saying at all.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
But then they wouldn't be able to parade their smug feeling of superiority at how consumer-friendly they are!
I agree. You want to buy a bag of skittles to make you feel better? You'll get elephant armor in Far cry 3 as well!
This is almost like piracy. They want you to buy the shaving gel so you can get additional stuff for Unity. Otherwise this promotion makes no sense.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
I see it the same way.
My problem with DLC isnt that i have to pay, its it not beeing on the disc. As a collector i want it all on the disc, and not piece´mealed`.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Want to buy it just to support this but if the combat is like 2 I'll have to pass.
I'd rather they parade their superiority by being consumer friendly and not charging us for these things. More power to them.
renegade_dewitt
Member
Its with announcements like this that I come to respect CDPR even more every day. Mad respect! Forever a fan boy!
Infinite Justice
Member
So basically an apology of sorts for the Xbox exclusive items snafu they ended up in?
I think 16 might be enough of a number in order to repair their previous image to the fans and place that nonsense to rest.
We'll see if any of these 16 DLC will be useful though.
I think 16 might be enough of a number in order to repair their previous image to the fans and place that nonsense to rest.
We'll see if any of these 16 DLC will be useful though.
CambriaRising
Member
I mean..how is this a bad thing? Some of you folks are just too cynical.
And I say this as a cynic.
And I say this as a cynic.
I imagine it to work like this: artists are usually done with their work earlier than the rest of the team, so when everyone else is busy coding, animating and smoothing the edges they can continue to produce additional material. Then, by the end of the developement cycle some part of the team is freed up because all that's left to do is beta-testing and opitmization, so the developer can put some manpower into realizing all the concepts the artists came up with during that time. It is not put into the final game because by the time the work on additional content begins the core game is essentially a finished, closed product. That is why most of early DLCs we see is almost exclusively cosmetic stuff. So no, I don't think it's "cut" content, I think it's "we had more important things to do than beards" content.
It's not as sad as you think it is. There are huge investments in continuing operations for many games that are not outwardly visible to consumers but still result in a much better experience. For example: it is very easy for a major online title to spend $1M+ in anti-cheat measures or back end database management alone. The people that do that work are in high demand and very expensive. That could be more than CDP will spend on developing this DLC. You could argue that the behind the scenes work is more consumer friendly because it benefits everyone playing whereas more people probably won't get much value out of DLC like horse armor.
Saint of Killers
Member
CDPR are just continuing their track record of being awesome to their customers: http://www.pcgamer.com/why-cd-projekt-decided-to-update-the-witcher-2-for-free/
KyanMehwulfe
Member
First with GTA 5 and now with Witcher 3...
I know which 2 games and developers will get the bulk of my time in 2015...
I know which 2 games and developers will get the bulk of my time in 2015...
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Only negative from this is I probably won't get to use some of the cosmetic items as I will surely be done with the game after 4 months.
This is a great PR strategy. The CDPR guys are really smart.
If those 16 DLCs are absolutely free for everyone, even people who buy the game used then this is not really DLC, it's game content. By saying it is free DLC they are making themselves look like good guys (I'm not saying they aren't) and are getting good word of mouth for their game.
If those DLCs are available day 1 there is no reason for then to be DLC and not vanilla game content if not a PR strategy.
If those 16 DLCs are absolutely free for everyone, even people who buy the game used then this is not really DLC, it's game content. By saying it is free DLC they are making themselves look like good guys (I'm not saying they aren't) and are getting good word of mouth for their game.
If those DLCs are available day 1 there is no reason for then to be DLC and not vanilla game content if not a PR strategy.
I tought that the Xbox exclusive items were paid by MS to be there, at least is nothing ingame as far as I know.
Im guessing some people are upset at this because its content that could be in the disc at launch to begin with, but that is assuming all of that content was finished. anyways, PR stunt or not, is a great move by the Developer, and this is something that is better than the other option.
Logistically, they arent doing things any different than what you suggested. In either case, that message would have been delivered through marketing fanfare. That is pretty much how consumer facing businesses operate; they have to actively generate attention if they want to remain operational.
I'm sure we'd see all the same reactions too. A lot of CDPR and Valve threads seem to attract people that are "insulted" that others appreciate the way these companies lean toward a more consumer friendly marketing strategy. I'm sure most people understand that this is a PR stunt... but so what? I wish more companies would do the same.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
Another reason to add as to why I already have Witcher 3 (PC) preordered. They deserve it.
Various Artists
Banned
Revolutionary
Member
This is stuff that was originally intended to be set aside for retailer specific preorders, right?
The quality of the content seems to indicate so, at least.
The quality of the content seems to indicate so, at least.
They never had in-game content exclusive to retailers. And by the way, for some questioning about only skins and similar things, there's also a side quest already announced and I'm sure there will be more. I don't care if it's a PR move or not. We get free content after launch.
cleveridea
Member
Devs have an excellent past record on this.
Also, what cares about witcher 3, we had 2 witcher games already.
WHERE IS CYBERPUNK?
Also, what cares about witcher 3, we had 2 witcher games already.
WHERE IS CYBERPUNK?
Jay Shadow
Member
Cyberpunk doesn't really exist until they finish Witcher 3. They never really created 2 full teams in the studio, it's more like 1 and 1/3rd teams.
Can't please fucking anyone these days....
Some idiots are actually complaining that it's a "pain" to go to the store "to download them."
What fucking twilight zone am I living in?
Props to CD Project Red for an awesome move...and props to "us" that appreciate EXTRA content at NO EXTRA COST.
Some idiots are actually complaining that it's a "pain" to go to the store "to download them."
What fucking twilight zone am I living in?
Props to CD Project Red for an awesome move...and props to "us" that appreciate EXTRA content at NO EXTRA COST.
And that is a bad thing? Were datadiscs in the past free? No.. DLCs should be free and they giving us free DLCs.. no one is going to give you massive new content free.. not in the past, not now, not in future
Marketing this as free DLC is mainly a PR tactic to boost interest and pre-orders. I don't mean that cynically or negatively. It's a good and smart move to give players a little more content and gain their confidence.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
*grins* All about transparency.
lifa-cobex
Member
Guess so. Hopefully sets a good example to other company's instead of DRM BS.
Well the second piece of DLC will have a new quest.
It's probably not going to be done in time to make it onto the retail disc.
The game is currently being tested and optimized. Adding new content in at this stage probably throws that out of whack. Furthermore, there'es usually a period of a few weeks in-between when a game goes gold (the content on the retail disc is finalized) and when it hits store shelves. Usually that's the time it takes for them to manufacture the discs and get the game through certification (ESRB, Sony, Microsoft). That's enough time for some additional content to be made for a game, or at least some more bugs worked out that they found more recently. That's why you tend to get day-one DLC and patches.