Vincent Grayson
Member
Skyrim came out in late 2011, a full 5/6 years after the generation started.
Fallout 4, if I had to guess, won't be later than Fall 2016, all of 3 years after the generation started.
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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt exceeds 1 MILLION pre-orders worldwide!
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Skyrim came out in late 2011, a full 5/6 years after the generation started.
Fallout 4, if I had to guess, won't be later than Fall 2016, all of 3 years after the generation started.
Primethius
Banned
Fantastic news. Had it pre-ordered for a year now and it's about a week away now. Damn, it's gonna be a rough wait.
My bad, I meant The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.
I forgot that this has reviews releasing starting tomorrow (!!) so might be able to preorder even if I was waiting for reviews.
https://twitter.com/fiddlecub/status/597649019297472512
https://twitter.com/fiddlecub/status/597649019297472512
is this a serious post? if I want something, while should i wait to see if others liked it so I can get it? not to mention, I preordered the Limited Edition, So, in a world with no preorders, I would had to wait probably one whole day in a line and see if Im lucky to buy this item , "actually worth the money" ...Im not buying a car or a house here.
Preorders its good for the consumer because they can reserve a copy of what they want and not be scared that they are going to be left out due to supply constraints.
QuickSilverD
Member
So when you pre-order a game, does the publisher/developer gets pay right away, correct? I presume so, but I remember when the Witcher 3 got delayed last time, I had the game pre-order on PSN but got an email from Sony telling me that the game had been delayed and giving me the option to cancel the pre-order and have my money returned to my account, which got me thinking had Sony already transferred the money to CDPR then they wouldn't really be able to return it to me, would they? is not like they can ask them to give it back, right? so at that point would a transfer of funds between Sony and CDPR had happened?
jim2point0
Banned
There's a specific thread for that so other threads aren't derailed with that kind of talk...
I'll wait for reviews to decide if this large number of pre-orders is a good thing. Who knows. The game could still turn out to be a massive stinker and then we'll all look silly for praising them
A definite blow to the so called "don't pre order games" movement.
Obliterator
Member
Why would they not?
nah, i'm not talking about "did it get a good score", more like "is it playable"
Simcity 5 is a good exemple, EA are swimming in money as we speak because of that disaster
Clearly they are counting retail. Though I wonder how well retail preorder #s are. In the US to be exact. Despite the big push, I can't find any GameStop stores in my region with midnight launches (which are an indicator of bigger preorder #s).
Well, Sony is yet to take money for my digital preorder.
jim2point0
Banned
Lots of anti-preorder activists here
The game could turn out to be a massive pile of shit. Then the developer gets rewarded for creating a bad game, and it'll be too late to "vote with our wallets."
Denton
Member
The probability of that is so close to zero it might as well not exist.
Plus anyway, CDP did the right thing and reviews will come out week before launch. So anyone can cancel if they want.
Just cancel the pre-order...
hobblygobbly
Member
Totalbiscuit is probably having a fit.
Jeronimo Jones
Member
I haven't made my preorder decision yet (leaning digital), but unless impressions/reviews are terrible, I expect I'll be playing it soon. My only hesitation is that I haven't played the series before.
I only occasionally preorder, but I'm good about judging what I'll like and I like what I have seen so far.
I only occasionally preorder, but I'm good about judging what I'll like and I like what I have seen so far.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Yeah, but when isn't he having a fit?
Wait for what? For who?
The reviews come out tomorrow, and even before the reviews there's literally hours upon hours upon hours of footage out there in the wild. Exactly whose opinion am I waiting for when you say I shouldn't even buy it on day 1? What's happening on day 1 that will inform me even more?
TheSpoiler
Member
Almost every single place you preorder allows you to get your money back.
Sooooo...
OnionPowder
Member
People pre-order a game from an independent developer with a great history. It's not the end of the world. If you don't want to pre-order then just don't pre-order.
I know you can't on GMG and I don't think you can on Steam. At least not once the game is out. You're delivered it automatically.
I don't think it was really a 'movement' but a personal resolve to wait for more information on a game that isn't trickled out by the dev, whether it is performance or game play metrics.
People can pre-order or day one whatever the fuck they want. For me, a dev's track record has no bearing on the next product they release and they won't see my money until I have solid proof that the game runs well on my hardware and that it is worth my time.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
So, after reviews go up tomorrow, would it be okay to pre-order if they turn out mostly positive?
I find it pretty easy to judge if it will be a "massive pile of shit" or not pre-release. Haven't been wrong yet
Play Witcher 2, do Iorveth path, skip optional stuff like "kill 7 cockroaches", you can probably get it done before the third one comes out.
Just don't skip any troll quests.
jim2point0
Banned
Not saying it's likely. But I agree with the anti-preorder folks. I think it's a bad practice, especially if it encourages developers to include preorder bonuses (though I don't believe that's the case for TW3).
I'm very happy that the review embargo is up a week early. That's great. And if the game is reviews positively overall, then pre-ordering is definitely much safer. I just don't think pre-ordering is a good idea in general.
One thing that reviews rarely cover though are performance issues, which is a big concern on PC. So even if the game gets good reviews, I still might wait on GAF's impressions.
This is my feelings exactly. I don't mind pre-loading/ordering a game I know I want to play, irregardless of reviews, opinions, etc.
IchigoSharingan
Member
Don't worry, it's still downgraded.
I mentioned this earlier, but I think a pre-order with more information is perfectly fine. That threshold is different for everybody though. For some people, it's a trailer, for others, it's 8 hours of footage, for some, it's a review from a trusted person/site.
The whole touting of pre-order numbers is what really bothers me. That's not sales yet, that's potential sales. If the game ends of being a glitchy, unplayable mess and consumers catch on, that pre-order number means nothing.
Some would argue that even after reviews, there is no guarantee that the game will work. Halo:MCC and DC are examples of that. However in these cases most of the issues were network related. AC:U was buggy as hell but the game released before the review embargo.
Well, the pre-order culture continues to be encouraged :/.
I am not surprised one bit.
I'll just wait for reviews and the PC performance thread then try to find the game for under $30 when I can.
Yea pretty much, haven't pre-ordered a game since 2013 after getting burnt few times too many.
Gonna need to wait until reviews and player opinions before concluding whether this pre-order milestone is a good or a bad thing.
That's incorrect, because by buying you have already voted
so not too latelordfuzzybutt
Member
cripterion
Member
In my opinion they deserve it just for the localization work they put in for this game.
Cheers!
Cheers!
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Exactly. Besides, online pre orders don't cost a dime so just go with that.
"I know it's going to be good so I pre-ordered it."
Sure, the game might be good, but it also might be broken as shit, riddled with bugs and unplayable on some systems because it doesn't fully support specific hardware.. have people learned nothing over the past two years of unfinished AAA games released too early?
Sure, the game might be good, but it also might be broken as shit, riddled with bugs and unplayable on some systems because it doesn't fully support specific hardware.. have people learned nothing over the past two years of unfinished AAA games released too early?
Dictator93
Member
Dood. Dat GoG release?
Jeronimo Jones
Member
Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't expect my non-gaming laptop is able to play it well, never owned a 360, nor do I have the free time to run through it in a week or two. I'm going PS4.
Denton
Member
I don't think it is blanketly bad practice.
It is bad practice for developers who do not deserve it (Hi Ubisoft/EA/Actard!), but developers who do (Hi Obsidian/Larian/CDP!) it is great to support them. At least until they do stuff to stop deserving that support.
