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[More_Badass]

Seems like this is new 2016 gameplay of the PS4 version. The first tutorials/opening puzzles (says part 3, but really it's definitely the start of the game)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9V2sYNripg
So yeah, at least one person is playing the game

Edit: nevermind, old footage

 

[Rap2thaMoon]

Seems like this is new 2016 gameplay of the PS4 version. The first tutorials/opening puzzles (says part 3, but really it's definitely the start of the game)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9V2sYNripg
So yeah, at least one person is playing the game

Is the free camera in the game?

 

[GeoramA]

Wow, it's almost here. I can't believe it's been nearly 3 years since this was shown at the PS4 reveal. That trailer is so good.

Wonder why there's no PS4 pre-order yet. Figured Sony would be pushing it hard.

 

[OnionPowder]

New PS Blog post about the voice actors in the game

 

[fastmower]

Seems like this is new 2016 gameplay of the PS4 version. The first tutorials/opening puzzles (says part 3, but really it's definitely the start of the game)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9V2sYNripg
So yeah, at least one person is playing the game

I feel like the content of that video is old. I swear I saw this exact video months back.

 

[Nzyme32]

Wow, it's almost here. I can't believe it's been nearly 3 years since this was shown at the PS4 reveal. That trailer is so good.

Wonder why there's no PS4 pre-order yet. Figured Sony would be pushing it hard.

There is no Steam pre-order either and they release at the same time. I figure Jonathan Blow / Thekla have a marketing plan somewhere; Sony doing the leg work seems unlikely since I don't know of anything they have left this late to market

 

[More_Badass]

I feel like the content of that video is old. I swear I saw this exact video months back.

You might be thinking of the PSX demo footage. It shows the same part of the game, but this footage is more detailed and polished visually, and there are tweaks to the level design

PSX - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZbRBen7rCc
2016 walkthrough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9V2sYNripg

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

This is one of my most anticipated games probably ever. I really hope it doesn't get delayed but with no real info about pricing yet I'm getting afraid.

I'm sure they've figured out their desired price by now and the lack of that info is unrelated to any possible delays.

 

[Fhtagn]

Just watched 2.5 minutes of that and I'm good. Looks incredible.

 

[QuixoticNeutral]

Jonathan Blow is intriguing enough as a designer that this time around we can only hope his godawful writing stays out of the way.

 

[PolishQ]

You might be thinking of the PSX demo footage. It shows the same part of the game, but this footage is more detailed and polished visually, and there are tweaks to the level design

PSX - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZbRBen7rCc
2016 walkthrough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9V2sYNripg

The "2016" video is the same as this one from 2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDSrYiheVow

 

[GeoramA]

There is no Steam pre-order either and they release at the same time. I figure Jonathan Blow / Thekla have a marketing plan somewhere; Sony doing the leg work seems unlikely since I don't know of anything they have left this late to market

Yeah I figured he probably has something to do with it.

I want a Witness Dynamic theme, though

 

[0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55]

Just watched 2.5 minutes of that and I'm good. Looks incredible.

agreed.
this is not a game to be spoiled.

 

[Kyonashi]

Do we even know if this is physical or digital? Price point?

 

[More_Badass]

The "2016" video is the same as this one from 2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDSrYiheVow

Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Do we even know if this is physical or digital? Price point?

Digital only at launch. Maybe physical later.

Price is unknown.

 

[Servbot24]

Super excited for this.

 

[OnionPowder]

Do we even know if this is physical or digital? Price point?

I've seen some 3rd party PC sites selling keys for €30, but that's all I've seen for price so far. I don't know where they got their keys are their prices though.

 

[omgkitty]

The screenshot threads are going to be incredible come the 26th.

 

[JonnyKong]

I'm starting to get rather excited about this now, although I know for a fact I'll get stuck pretty early on as I do with most puzzle games.

 

[cpp_is_king]

I feel like the content of that video is old. I swear I saw this exact video months back.

It's definitely old. At the end he says "I feel like the game will probably come out next year, probably in the middle of the year". Guessing this was taken in 2014 or 2015.

Edit: Yea someone posted it's from 2014. In that video he says 20-30 hours but they keep adding more stuff. So hopefully now it's up to 35-45 hours.

 

[The Illiterati]

It's definitely old. At the end he says "I feel like the game will probably come out next year, probably in the middle of the year". Guessing this was taken in 2014 or 2015.

Edit: Yea someone posted it's from 2014. In that video he says 20-30 hours but they keep adding more stuff. So hopefully now it's up to 35-45 hours.

He's said it will be upwards of 80-100 hours to see all the puzzles. He's also said a very few of endgame puzzles will probably only be completed by minority of players.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I'm starting to get rather excited about this now, although I know for a fact I'll get stuck pretty early on as I do with most puzzle games.

This is apparently designed so you can "beat" the game while not completing nearly all of the puzzles, so you can get around a lot of things you get stuck on. But more of the game opens up the more you complete; and of course, the ending is different with a complete run.

 

[JonnyKong]

This is apparently designed so you can "beat" the game while not completing nearly all of the puzzles, so you can get around a lot of things you get stuck on. But more of the game opens up the more you complete; and of course, the ending is different with a complete run.

Oo now I'm even more excited!

 

[Karu]

There is very nice sale going on right now (January Sale PS4) - I don't have time waiting someone to bother giving me a price point. So frustrating.

 

[More_Badass]

I'm starting to get rather excited about this now, although I know for a fact I'll get stuck pretty early on as I do with most puzzle games.

From what I've read, the whole world is open from the start, so if you get stuck on puzzle or area, you can just move onto another and come back later.

 

[cpp_is_king]

He's said it will be upwards of 80-100 hours to see all the puzzles. He's also said a very few of endgame puzzles will probably only be completed by minority of players.

Interesting. So does this imply that there will be multiple endings? I mean if some of the puzzles are optional, what reward is there in a game like this other than a better ending?

 

[Blizzard]

He's said it will be upwards of 80-100 hours to see all the puzzles. He's also said a very few of endgame puzzles will probably only be completed by minority of players.

He also said recently that he finished 100% of the game in under 8 hours, so 80-100 is only if everyone else is 10 times slower solving puzzles.

 

[SuperEpicMan]

I kinda feel like the more I watch of this, the less interesting it seems. The island and locations look really nice, but the puzzles just seem to be variations of mazes. I was expecting this to be like a open world version of The Room (iOS), but with a cool cell shaded art style.

 

[bombshell]

He also said recently that he finished 100% of the game in under 8 hours, so 80-100 is only if everyone else is 10 times slower solving puzzles.

That's because he know all the solutions.

 

[The Illiterati]

He also said recently that he finished 100% of the game in under 8 hours, so 80-100 is only if everyone else is 10 times slower solving puzzles.

That's a speedrun, with him knowing the solutions from the start. No chance anyone else will do that.

 

[More_Badass]

I kinda feel like the more I watch of this, the less interesting it seems. The island and locations look really nice, but the puzzles just seem to be variations of mazes. I was expecting this to be like a open world version of The Room (iOS), but with a cool cell shaded art style.

You know how Portal's puzzles were all variations of the same idea? The Witness seems to be like that. The maze/line drawing is merely the means to input the answer. Figuring out what the answer is, or even what is the question that's being asked, involves more than just what's on a panel

 

[mattp]

You know how Portal's puzzles were all variations of the same idea? The Witness seems to be like that. The maze/line drawing is merely the means to input the answer. Figuring out what the answer is, or even what the question that's being asked, involves more than just what's on a panel

yup
the maze is just your method of inputting the solution

 

[radioactivez0r]

Super interested in this but it comes out 2 days before Tomb Raider PC, and a mere 10 days before XCOM2. Embarrassment of riches.

 

[darkinstinct]

That's a speedrun, with him knowing the solutions from the start. No chance anyone else will do that.

They will be 1 hour faster one week after launch.

 

[Blizzard]

That's a speedrun, with him knowing the solutions from the start. No chance anyone else will do that.

Someone probably will EVENTUALLY. But first time yeah. I just feel that people solve puzzles at different rates, so you might have some people taking 30-40 hours, while others take 100. It'll be interesting to see! I hardly ever make it past like, 1-2 hours of a game, so I guess I'll end up 3% complete or something.

And if a puzzle game really is dragging on over 40 hours, I assume people will just look up the solutions online, like the Talos Principle stars.

 

[theangrypirate]

I was really hype for this game, then I started following Blow on Twitter. Man that guy really turned me off to his game. There is just an arrogance about him that is really off putting. I might try it if it is received well but im not that interested in it anymore.

 

[PFD]

I kinda feel like the more I watch of this, the less interesting it seems. The island and locations look really nice, but the puzzles just seem to be variations of mazes. I was expecting this to be like a open world version of The Room (iOS), but with a cool cell shaded art style.

They've been very secretive about the puzzles. We still don't know how the majority of them will play out

 

[Rosur]

I wonder if the Platinum trophy will require you to complete every puzzle.

 

[cpp_is_king]

I wonder if the Platinum trophy will require you to complete every puzzle.

I sure hope so. Hard to justify saying you've 100%'ed the game if you haven't actually 100%'ed it.

I was really hype for this game, then I started following Blow on Twitter. Man that guy really turned me off to his game. There is just an arrogance about him that is really off putting. I might try it if it is received well but im not that interested in it anymore.

To me it seems much more like a modern version of Myst. Personally I'm not even thinking about the puzzle aspect of the game. It's more about exploring the island and unlocking its secrets. The puzzles are the just the keys to open the doors, much like you might have to find a key from a treasure chest or whatever. You don't go around thinking "Oh it's so dumb that I have to get a key to unlock that door". I think it's the same thing here, the game is really just about exploring an island and finding out about it. The puzzles are just the keys

 

[The Illiterati]

I wonder if the Platinum trophy will require you to complete every puzzle.

I know Blow was against having achievements in Braid, so I wonder if this game will even have them. He also didn't want an opening menu, I wonder if that stuck also...

 

[SmiteOfHand]

I was really hype for this game, then I started following Blow on Twitter. Man that guy really turned me off to his game. There is just an arrogance about him that is really off putting. I might try it if it is received well but im not that interested in it anymore.

If you base your media choices on hitting it off with the personality of its creators you'd probably have a very short list of movies, books, TV shows, and games to choose from.

 

[Remembrance]

I know Blow was against having achievements in Braid, so I wonder if this game will even have them. He also didn't want an opening menu, I wonder if that stuck also...

I don't think Sony's policies allow any PS4 games to not have trophies. Also, the recent blog posts reveal that there is an opening menu (the most minimalistic one possible): http://the-witness.net/news/2015/12/since-making-that-post/

 

[More_Badass]

I was really hype for this game, then I started following Blow on Twitter. Man that guy really turned me off to his game. There is just an arrogance about him that is really off putting. I might try it if it is received well but im not that interested in it anymore.

What does he tweet about? Doesn't he criticize game design of other games or something?

 

[darkinstinct]

I was really hype for this game, then I started following Blow on Twitter. Man that guy really turned me off to his game. There is just an arrogance about him that is really off putting. I might try it if it is received well but im not that interested in it anymore.

He can be an ass sometimes but he is also a brilliant designer. Like Notch and Phil Fish.

 

[0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55]

my plums ache to pre-order

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

I was really hype for this game, then I started following Blow on Twitter. Man that guy really turned me off to his game. There is just an arrogance about him that is really off putting. I might try it if it is received well but im not that interested in it anymore.

He definitely has a lot of complaints about all kinds of things, but his personality is such a dumb reason to reconsider your interest in what may be a spectacular game.

 

[Mivey]

He definitely has a lot of complaints about all kinds of things, but his personality is such a dumb reason to reconsider your interest in what may be a spectacular game.

I think for many people it is simply natural to strongly associate a thing and its creator. If you love a show, you probably don't want to find out that the creator is a racist asshole who beats his wife. Maybe because, to an extent, we associate ourselves with the things we love?

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

I think for many people it is simply natural to strongly associate a thing and its creator. If you love a show, you probably don't want to find out that the creator is a racist asshole who beats his wife. Maybe because, to an extent, we associate ourselves with the things we love?

Art v artist debate will never go away. Like, I can't not watch a Polanski or Woody Allen movie without having the thought somewhere in the back of my mind of the sick shit they did, but I can still recognize the quality of what they made. Rosemary's Baby doesn't stop being a brilliant horror/thriller due to Polanski's scumbaggery. Film historians also recognize this of people like Riefenstahl, sure its propaganda for one of the most evil regimes the world has known, but its propaganda done damn well.

 

[theangrypirate]

If you base your media choices on hitting it off with the personality of its creators you'd probably have a very short list of movies, books, TV shows, and games to choose from.

I agree, I probably never should have started following him. I stopped a few months ago but the damage was done.

What does he tweet about? Doesn't he criticize game design of other games or something?

He has a tone of "I'm a genius and nobody else in gaming is doing anything nearly as important as me." As a software developer I find a lot of his criticism of gaming and software development in general pretty condescending. I'm sure he is brilliant but he acts like he is right about everything all the time and nobody should question him.

He can be an ass sometimes but he is also a brilliant designer. Like Notch and Phil Fish.

Agreed.

He definitely has a lot of complaints about all kinds of things, but his personality is such a dumb reason to reconsider your interest in what may be a spectacular game.

I know, I know, that's why I stopped following him. I loved braid and I hope this game is awesome. I'm sure my hype will return when it releases and people love it. He may even be a good dude but after about a year of following him I just got the impression that he was sort of a douche. I will play the game, I just am not hype for it like I was.