Oh wow that looks very good indeed! Watching another stream though but looks very solid.
And also Twitch ya dun goofed unbelievable hard.
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Twitch.tv update imposes delay up to 60s in streams, viewer interaction impacted
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Oh wow that looks very good indeed! Watching another stream though but looks very solid.
And also Twitch ya dun goofed unbelievable hard.
Just wait for 2014. That'll make this year look like a sunny day at the beach.
Might try some hotbox.tv streams tonight after I get all my work done.
If the problem is not being able to see your chat, it would. I suppose it is a problem going the other way though, damn.
Azure Phoenix
Member
Pretty much. It butchers any attempts for the streamer to interact with the chat, which is imperative for smaller streams where they need the bring in regular viewers to grow. Streams where the streamer lets the viewers make some choices, or take requests or whatever are also an absolute nightmare because they have to wait for up to a minute before the first answers can even start coming in - which in turn means the viewers have a whole minute of dead screentime.
But then the massive LoL/Dota/speedrun streams that bring in the big ad revenue which Twitch cares about don't have any chat interaction anyway, so why would it matter about the little guy?
Piercedveil
Member
Twitch is the Youtube of streaming. Sucks and unfortunately everyone uses it.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Twitch has always discouraged users from streaming at bitrates above 3mbps anyway. It's not like you're going to get quality 720p60 streams no matter what you do.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I hope this doesn't make AGDQ less enjoyable.
+1 for hitbox.tv. It looks like a decent service.
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
So PC gamers who have enjoyed using this service for years have had their experience demolished because the service got opened up to all next gen consoles and therefore a shittier but more scalable format had to be chosen, and now nobody has a good experience at all on twitch?
This doesn't seem like it has anybody in the winner's spot of this scenario.
This doesn't seem like it has anybody in the winner's spot of this scenario.
Pretty much. Expect it to get worse in the coming months. Remember, XBone's streaming functionality hasn't even been turned on yet.
CloudyTuba
Member
God I can't believe YouTube. It's getting to the point that I'm looking at alternatives. It just keeps getting worse.
When 1080p video first came out I could view it just fine.
Then that started stuttering, so I switched to 720p. That worked fine for quite a while.
Now it's so bad that it doesn't matter if it's 1080p or 240p, shit sometimes just won't load at all. I rage when I'm desperately trying to watch a 10 second video at 360p and just can't get it to load. And I can't even let it preload anymore like it used to. It automatically stops preloading so many seconds ahead of the current point.
I like to watch gameplay videos in bed on my tablet sometimes before I fall asleep. I got so frustrated with youtube a couple of nights ago that I actually installed the damn dailymotion app (first alternative that came to mind, couldnt remember any others as I laid in bed). It worked better.
I can download a torrent at 1.5 megabytes a second but I can't watch a damn movie trailer on youtube. Fuck youtube.
If I remember correctly, Vimeo does HD pretty smoothly the few times I've used it. Do they have a lot of content?
FranXico
Member
Personally, under Windows 8, I installed Hyper and just download whatever I want to watch. It's faster than trying to stream it several times in a row.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Signed up for this to try when I get home.
CloudyTuba
Member
I've got a video downloader in Chrome that I use to download things from Youtube from time to time, when it's being a bitch but I really want to see it. But I wish I didn't have to resort to that.
That was SRG marathon the Third.i hope not.
AGDQ is probably the best video game event of the year.
Fragamemnon
Member
This really didn't have much to do with the consoles. Twitch was buckling hard way before any of the new load from the next-gen systems came out.
I think the admins and coders at Twitch definitely are going to be working to mitigate the lag. I agree that it really does hurt interactive streams (which are some of the most popular).
There are no fighting games being streamed on hitbox.tv
I will try and rectify that tonight, even though I am not very good at anything.
http://www.hitbox.tv/Mesoian
Edit: Oh hey, what ever happened to GAF getting the Twitch association licence thingy? Did that just shrivel up?
I will try and rectify that tonight, even though I am not very good at anything.
http://www.hitbox.tv/Mesoian
Edit: Oh hey, what ever happened to GAF getting the Twitch association licence thingy? Did that just shrivel up?
Well that sucks. Already setup a hitbox account. Will live stream tonight.
http://www.hitbox.tv/SelectButton
http://www.hitbox.tv/SelectButton
Felix Lighter
Member
This is going to kill MANvsGAME style shows, which is actually the majority of the streamers I watch. I don't participate much in chat but the shows just wouldn't be the same if the caster isn't playing off of the chat. Already established guys may do alright but new guys and up and comers trying to build an audience don't have a chance if they're unable to effectively interact with their viewers.
Me to going to test a few streams tonight.
My channel : http://www.hitbox.tv/Nokterian
And they started just a few months ago i saw on there blog and still improving? I do hope they know what there doing instead of twitch.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Looks pretty slick. However, according to them, the service is only a couple months old. Wonder how it will handle a heavy user load.
Is this update why I can't view twitch streams on my PS3 in Showtime now?
Pre HSL streams used RTMP, the new twitch update has their player using HTTP, this may be why.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Twitch is dead. Long live.....
eugh.
eugh.
Two questions:
A 60 second delay? Impacted! Rendered unusable!!
Who's the smug guy in black and white? I see that, uh, emoticon all the time. Always makes me laugh.
Also, where do people get these tiny reaction images?
Nymphae
Banned
Seems like it got huge this year. Don't worry, you're not alone. I too would rather play games then watch someone else enjoy them.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Cool, you should post a link in the fighting games weekly thread when you go live.
It's not like when people feel like playing games they watch Twitch instead, that's not how it works; I don't know why people say this.
I am streaming right now http://www.hitbox.tv/Nokterian
Please provide some feedback and or comments just doing some testing!
Please provide some feedback and or comments just doing some testing!
They should be. ManVsGame interacts pretty heavily with his viewers while streaming. With that kind of delay it will really screw things up.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Two questions:
Who's the smug guy in black and white? I see that, uh, emoticon all the time. Always makes me laugh.
Also, where do people get these tiny reaction images?
He's a former justin.tv employee. Most of the early face emoticons are. He's making a funny smirking expression so it caught on as a sarcasm/trolling emoticon.
Two questions:
Who's the smug guy in black and white? I see that, uh, emoticon all the time. Always makes me laugh.
Also, where do people get these tiny reaction images?
some random twitch employee (or was) as far as I know and it's basically the twitch version of troll face now. Twitch put them up and if you type /Kappa in the chat it'll show I think, dunno as I've never used that one.
Everyone sign up now quick so you can get the name you want on there. Just realized this. Always so late to signing up and I never get the user name I want. I got it this time. woohoo.
There is also many other Kappas. I personally like tornis and his Peka trollface instead.
Quality and stream is perfect.
Really surprised by the hitbox.tv stuff, the problem is getting the main streamers moving over and they'll only do that as long as they can get subscription/ad money which is completely understandable. How are hitbox for that?
Pretty much, although Twitch wasn't exactly great before the new consoles, but it has got worse since to the point they've needed to implement this new software. Thing is though the PS4 streams are dead now the novelty has worn off, it's peak on a Friday and the highest viewing stream has 240 people.
Nabs
Member
Your stream looks really good, but you are echoing a bit.
They will adapt and get better, they have to. D:
Also, last time I checked a few weeks ago Kappa on Hitbox actually renders a different emote than a guy's face.
It's an emote of sushi I believe.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
hitbox.tv doesn't let you put underscores in your username. I wanted to use the same name as on twitch but I guess emp_nemos_paypal_chargeback will have to stay a twitch only thing
I will work on that.
FreddieQuell
Member
They should just remove the chatboxes while they're at it, since they're useless now.
So..."This is better for us, so deal with it. Maybe we'll have a solution in 6 months"
K
"Fuck off, deal with it."