Sea Of Thieves and Crackdown are scheduled for 2016?
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Sea Of Thieves and Crackdown are scheduled for 2016?
That's kinda fucked up dude
Well from the sounds of it, the multiplayer beta for crackdown is scheduled for summer. No word on the actual game
Triggerhappytel
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Why has this turned into a list wars topic?! I think conversation on RotTR has pretty much run its course at this point.
Because the market doesn't work that way hence this thread's existence.
SEGAvangelist
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Yes. And don't forget Below and the inevitable Forza Horizon 3 announcement. 2016 is going to be an amazing year for gaming.
That at least is more believable than Ashen, Cuphead and Inside being tentpole releases.
Bits N Pieces
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Allegedly. Crackdown is supposed to have an open beta next summer and Greg Mayles has said 2016 is the goal for SoT.
Wait and see I suppose?
CyberChulo
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Perhaps I did over do it. Just trying to keep it in the same tone as the game.
Oh dear...
Then you should have used her quality CE statue.
Anddd dead. I wasn't ready for that.
If the sales don't surpass the 360's sales from the first game, then I sure hope Square learns from this and makes the next Tomb Raider available for Xbox, Ps4 and NX at launch.
Then you should have used her quality CE statue.
Ha!
IDK, there's something prophetic about it.
Bits N Pieces
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Cuphead is the Indie darling and Inside if from the makers of Limbo. Id class them as tent pole indies
get2sammyb
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Next year's going to be an even bigger bloodbath than this year - and the PS4 will be the one delivering the pasting.
Quite possibly - now I think of it, 9/10 of the big releases this year were multiplat. Next year looks like it has more exclusives both ways.
StrongBlackVine
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I never really do these list war, but no it is not comparable. You had to dig pretty deep and list games that have not been announced for 2016 (Crackdown 3 and Sea Of Thieve) and digital only games. PS4 has more retail exclusives than your list. Add the smaller games PS4 games like The Witness, WILD, The Tomorrow Children, Edith Finch etc and it becomes quite lopsided.
panda-zebra
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Because we're partying like it's 2013.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Its actually pretty fun this time no bloodbath going on here just comparing lineups(for now) lol
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I know it's a thing to act like you're better than these people at their own jobs, but I'm pretty sure the market can bear more than one big release at a time becoming successes.
Welfare
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I think it's pretty safe to say that Crackdown 3 and Sea of Thieves are 2016 games. Crackdown was announced at E3 2014 and Sea of Thieves this E3 (and having actual gameplay at E3). It's unlikely those two would be 2017 titles.
Stone Ocean
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Not on the same day, not against the biggest game of the year.
Nightengale
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I'm not trying to say that it is, but "gameplay footage" can easily be "target renders."
Look at Rime & FFXV for example. Debuted with gameplay, except that actually it wasn't really.
Yeah. It was a bad business call, straight up. And it wasn't a one-off either. It was a bad business call in a sea of other bad business calls. All of which customers said were bad business calls over the past year for months on end.
Nobody is "shocked" the game is under-performing. We all EXPECTED it.
I can only assume the ego and hubris involved by the publisher wasn't "oh, we need to watch out for Fallout", it was "we're big enough, Fallout should watch out for us!"
... only for reality to crash down and for them to realize Tomb Raider is not as big as it once was nor as big as those involved thought it was.
toythatkills
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Tomb Raider didn't release on the same day as Fallout in the UK.
It did everywhere else, though, and that definitely hurt it even MORE.
It honestly shouldn't have launched in the same week, even the same MONTH, as Fallout 4 and all the other titles. It could have owned January instead of being swept under the rug by all the other major releases.
IDK, it periodically touches base on how this all relates to Rot Tomb Raider.
Turned into list thread because people were weighing the pros/cons of exclusivity with Xbox One for a year. Which naturally turns into 'which console has best or more exclusives, how well do those exclusives sell, and do they really sell console units'.
toythatkills
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I assumed this thread was still focused on UK sales, I skimmed.
Thebeardofknowledge
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you are reaching really hard
And you added so much to the thread.
Do we know what the WW projections SE had for this game are, or its budget? Hopefully it doesn't need as much as the last one to become profitable. I would hate to see the IP go into hibernation if this game doesn't end up hitting the mark. There's no next gen to make a launch window port and get increased profits this time around.
Bits N Pieces
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I was responding to this person
If you think I am reaching with the games I mentioned - ReCore, Quantum Break, Scalebound, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown 3, Gears 4, Cuphead, Inside, Ashen, Halo Wars 2.
Then we'll just have to agree to disagree
Shotgun Kiss
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The explanation is simple:
Rise of the Tomb Raider < 63,000 (Tomb Raider debuted selling around 183,000 units)
BECAUSE
Fallout 4 ~ 482,000
NoMoreTrolls
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And because
Rise of the Tomb Raider [PS4] ~ 000,000
FlyStarJay
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DeepEnigma
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It could also at least doubled if not reached the same 183,000 if this was on the PS4 as well. It is not just FO4.
MSFT said they wanted their Uncharted (which they still had regardless), by keeping TR from the system/gamers that had UC (which now causes UC to just sell more), and Sony then provided the Collection this Fall. UC4 would have more than likely mopped the floor with TR if it released this Fall and was not delayed, even with FO4 out. That is telling, and shows it was more for Square to accept the MSFT money because they probably had a gut feeling (at the time they assumed UC4 was coming), this would happen.
Does anyone have sales numbers for the NDC in the UK for launch? I am curious about comparison.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Damn cold hearted..well chris brown always was a savage..XP
Nightengale
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Yes.
A Sony employee makes a personal tweet on the sales of TR & is somewhat snarky about it.
Bits N Pieces
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Well, he's not WRONG...
Thebeardofknowledge
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I was responding to this person
If you think I am reaching with the games I mentioned - ReCore, Quantum Break, Scalebound, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown 3, Gears 4, Cuphead, Inside, Ashen, Halo Wars 2.
Then we'll just have to agree to disagree
you are listing games that aren't even confirmed yet
Bits N Pieces
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you are listing games that aren't even confirmed yet
Which games? Crackdown? Sea of Thieves?
panda-zebra
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It reads colder without the emotes in the tweet itself.
Nah they're both equally bad, but it's entertaining.
What point are they trying to make? Tomb Raider sold bad in the UK, end of the story, no idea what Cuphead or Uncharted 4 have to do with this.
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