robotzombie
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I have this one, I don't remember which version it is:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JsuuQYTTL.jpg
The ps3 version of course
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Ultra Street Fighter IV on PS4 is much, much better now. Bless.
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I have this one, I don't remember which version it is:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JsuuQYTTL.jpg
The ps3 version of course
I am under the assumption that Ultra SF4 is missing all the DLC constumes on PC. The Steam page is offering three DLC packages(Vacation, Wild, and SS4AE 'all-in') totaling almost $60 beyond the cost of USF4. ($~80 total)
Seems you would need to buy all three to equal the DLC content of the all-inclusive $25 PS4 port.
Finished playing through arcade mode first on PS4 then on PS3. Using standard DS4 and DS3 pads here.
For me, there is a very noticeable input lag on PS4 compared to PS3. Not that there isn't any on PS3, as everyone knows there is, but it's worse on PS4. I'm not a pro or competitive player by any means, but I immediately noticed the difference right away, in arcade mode. Something really does feel pretty off. The time it takes for action to happen on screen with relation to when I'm pressing buttons just seems delayed, with my perception of it anyway. I can't even fathom how frustrated people are who know the SFIV games inside and out.
For me, there is a very noticeable input lag on PS4 compared to PS3. Not that there isn't any on PS3, as everyone knows there is, but it's worse on PS4. I'm not a pro or competitive player by any means, but I immediately noticed the difference right away, in arcade mode. Something really does feel pretty off. The time it takes for action to happen on screen with relation to when I'm pressing buttons just seems delayed, with my perception of it anyway. I can't even fathom how frustrated people are who know the SFIV games inside and out.
Ironically the 360 is seen as the definitive version. No big deal since as lupinko has been saying, SF is a console game now.
Always go with Gilley's assessment. The DisplayLags numbers, while consistent is off across the board for all platforms by at least 2 frames. It's only a good indicator that it didn't match the 360.
Rice-Eater
Member
I've been playing the SF4 since launch and have poured thousands of hours into the game since then. I'm still a pretty active player and all I can say is that it feels OK to me. Others feel the same way, but I see others claiming what you claimed. So I'm not sure what to say.
I'm no expert, but I play the game a lot and I think as far as input lag goes, it's the same or not noticeably different.
Didn't they say the PS3 lag was gone, though? IIRC they said whatever made the PS3 input lag higher than the 360 was fixed, so, even if it's the same, it's still worse than it should be.
Unless they didn't say that, if that's the case, ignore me.
Mufausa The 3rd
Member
Give it a try on your PC. But I can't guarantee that it will work. People have mentioned that the stick still gives problems on some motherboards. Check Here
I'm fairly certain that people in this thread have been quoting someone from Sony who said that they "fixed" the PS3 lag. So yeah, even if it's not as bad as some people think, it would still be worse than they promised.
Duxxy3
Member
We don't have all the numbers from Gilley. Just the PS4/TE2 number. We don't have PS3, 360 or PS/Legacy numbers. His numbers can't be directly compared to displaylags.
inanutshell
Member
Gio Corsi mentioned it on the ps blog. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/04/17/ultra-street-fighter-iv-hits-ps4-on-may-26th/
Yeah the uproar would probably be a lot less if they didn't promise this would be the ultimate version of the game and be used for the Capcom Pro Tour.
Pretty much.
QA has a lot less power than people tend to think. Granted, that's also on an employer-by-employer basi (my current job is really good about listening to QA concerns).
They can find all they want but if the dev or pub come back and say "no time to fix it"...
...well, here we are
Nerd_Incognito
Member
Sony refunded me today. Bitch hard enough and they'll give in.
I played about 70 online matches in 2 days and I don't see any difference in how the online performs on this and x360 or ps3. :\ before someone asks I'm not going to evo.
edit: I'm saying I guess it depends on your connection perhaps? then again when this is brought up all the sudden everyone is on Google fiber lol.
Your refund came in already, or they told you it would in 3-5 business days? I was issued a refund on Wednesday morning, hasn't been processed yet though. I was told 3-5 business days.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Does that green man gaming 20% off code floating around not work for ultra?
Capcom won, im buying Ultra for PC, haha.
Capcom won, im buying Ultra for PC, haha.
Akiyama_AE
Member
Dude what did you say I want the refund too
Display lag PS4 numbers are also higher than their PS3 numbers. I just want to see more independent testing at this point.
no i didn't, i showed display lags video on stream lol.
I don't remember any claims that arcade's input lag = PS3's outside of some guy making a thread on SRK basing his rough tests on an arcade emulator. The emulator runs with your graphics driver settings like any other regular PC game so the input delay varies with your unique configurations (can be faster than the 360 version or slower than PS3). Therefore it's an unreliable indicator of input lag on actual machines.
DisplayLag's numbers are more useful for comparing versions to each other, not necessarily comparing in a vacuum. They might want to check out the PS4 version with more controllers if the legacy stick delay in MKX is anything to go by.
DisplayLag's numbers are more useful for comparing versions to each other, not necessarily comparing in a vacuum. They might want to check out the PS4 version with more controllers if the legacy stick delay in MKX is anything to go by.
23% off at GMG: SLICKD-EALS23-OFFGMW
Comes to $11.55. Good deal for the best version (minus costumes)
Rice-Eater
Member
What did you personally think about the input lag?
kojirosasaki
Banned
I think the patch will take, have too many faults to fix
Sangetsu-II
Member
Takamura-San
Member
I'm very skeptical about this patch. Hoping for the best though.
HORRORSHØW
Member
also not putting too much stock in the patch.
I'm one of those. Depends how comprehensive the patch is.
Rice-Eater
Member
I'm not expecting a quick fix. But please at least take care of the slow menus and username placement during online play for this first patch.
levelplane
Neo Member
Ports a damn shame. Seems like a wasted opportunity. Imagine being in the dev studio that spent sweat on a port just to have it thrown to the side by fans.
Seen a few assumptions on here that an 7 yo fighting game with quite a bit of dlc is an easy port. Is that really the case though? It has to be spot on for the tournament players. The developers were also foreign to the code.
As far as qa goes. They probably didnt have any testers with a tournement level fighting experience. Not surprised they didnt see anything wrong with some of the character specific problems.
Also, I'm wondering how much the ps4s video record feature plays into showing bugs around the internet. Im sure some of the odd ones are super rare. Only one person has to get it to happen once, then it gets posted everywhere.
Anyways, holding off to see what future patches bring. Was pumped to play. Not so much now. Back to 3s oe.
Seen a few assumptions on here that an 7 yo fighting game with quite a bit of dlc is an easy port. Is that really the case though? It has to be spot on for the tournament players. The developers were also foreign to the code.
As far as qa goes. They probably didnt have any testers with a tournement level fighting experience. Not surprised they didnt see anything wrong with some of the character specific problems.
Also, I'm wondering how much the ps4s video record feature plays into showing bugs around the internet. Im sure some of the odd ones are super rare. Only one person has to get it to happen once, then it gets posted everywhere.
Anyways, holding off to see what future patches bring. Was pumped to play. Not so much now. Back to 3s oe.
That and enabling AF. It shouldn't have been off in the release since Sony supposedly addressed the issue with devs recently.
Keeping my fingers crossed any extra latenecy was related to the menu issue and was some sort of overlooked firmware/suspend conflict issue in hardware.
Are you suggesting that this will be fixed within a fortnight? Seems like a bigger issue than that.
Rice-Eater
Member
From my understanding it's a very basic GPU feature with negligible performance hit which was oddly missing in a number of games. It was an issue in the DmC release, but they patched it about a month ago. There was a whole thread about it, but I can't find it atm.
Because of the state this launched in and the developers (probably) making the patch, I say we should keep our expectations in check. There's a slim to no chance that this one patch is going to fix everything. Let's hope for something smaller like menu fix, psn id placement and hopefully a fix to decapre teleport and gen/Honda combos...
I never said it would be completely fixed or a perfect product but some of the obvious bugs like invisible projectiles or other weird character bugs could have been resolved lessening the negative reaction.
Shouldn't Capcom have given them PC version to port over though?
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Considering the architecture of the PS4 versus of the PS3, you would have figured it would have been easier to port from the PC too.
Apparently they haven't changed since the PSX days for their disdain for 2D games.
DirgeExtinction
Member
Wouldn't it be up to Capcom to decide which version to port over?
direct_quote
Member
No AF was the first thing I was going to predict that would be wrong about this port...What a sad surprise..
