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[Durante]

UE4 must be massively successful for Epic. Either that, or this is desperation, but from everything I have observed that seems incredibly unlikely.

I like this, because UE4 is good. Hopefully its widespread adoption will mean better AA in games, and better PC ports across the board. Oh, and better performance in large-scale indie games than with Unity.

Pretty damn awesome, shame i like to use c#, never spent enough time to properly learn c++.

Well, not everyone can spend 15 years learning a language

 

[BennyBlanco]

That's pretty crazy. I bet it will pay off for Epic.

 

[Newboi]

It seems like Epic achieved the level of adoption they needed to make this skeem viable long term. That's fantastic!

This will put severe pressure on Unity and CryEngine now. I'm not sure they can sustain themselves with the same pricing structure as Epic can with Unreal.

Edit: I honestly think DX12 and GLNext will be the true difference make with UE4. This will allow the programmers to optimize their Engine and allow for cross platforms between the PC and consoles that probably weren't possible before.

 

[No_Style]

So... who wants to port that Gears of War PC release to UE4?

 

[Akuun]

You just can't beat that.

Damn, I was not expecting Epic to go that far. I know the landscape has changed, many AAA publishers have their own tech but the situation must be critical for Epic to literally give away their work for free.

This is a great deal but how does Epic intend to make money from doing this? It must cost a ton of money to develop UE4 but it sounds like they won't make much money if they do this.

Or are they gambling on having a ton of people use their engine so that the 5% thing adds up?

 

[PerezDeCorcho]

BASED EPIC

 

[MayMay]

Awesome, I am (was) always subbed to it - but free is better.

Big move. Poor Unity (and CryEngine).

 

[justsomeguy]

Wow. That unity pressure.

plus clearly timed for GDC. Wonder what they are going to be showing off

 

[JeffG]

Nice, download isn't working at the minute though but this is fantastic news.

Its downloading for me.

I will have to try it. I do have a handful of of tools invested in Unity though.

 

[Wyndstryker]

You just can't beat that.

Damn, I was not expecting Epic to go that far. I know the landscape has changed, many AAA publishers have their own tech but the situation must be critical for Epic to literally give away their work for free.

They probably also want to cater to the growing indies that are already making money off their first game but want to make something a bit meatier. Unity is definitely king with indies and has a similar setup.

 

[Orayn]

Depends on if 5% total revenue versus upfront cost works out better for you in the long run or not, but this MEGATON regardless

Unity Pro is $1000, right? If so, the two lines intersect at $23,000 in revenue.

 

[Situacao]

Holy shit!

Downloading ASAP.

 

[KKRT00]

Competition is awesome

 

[justsomeguy]

UE4 must be massively successful for Epic. Either that, or this is desperation, but from everything I have observed that seems incredibly unlikely.

I like this, because UE4 is good. Hopefully its widespread adoption will mean better AA in games, and better PC ports across the board. Oh, and better performance in large-scale indie games than with Unity.

Well, not everyone can spend 15 years learning a language

Stupid q - I assume ue is c++ only?

 

[cleveridea]

Unity is going to really feel the sting from this. Wow.

Unity supports more platforms though doesn't it?

Eg it doesnt look like UE4 supports Linux unless I Google failed

I like the idea of promoting platforms to keep windows and DX with a competitor.

 

[Beckx]

Wait, does this mean you can now access UT development builds without a UE4 subscription?

 

[Nirolak]

Off the top of my head upcoming big titles on UE4

Kingdom Hearts 3
Fable Legends
Dead Island 2
Sony Bends next title
Street Fighter V
Tekken 7

and a ton more.

A lot of Microsoft's stuff is on it in general. Crackdown and Scalebound for example.

 

[The Shogun]

This is a great deal but how does Epic intend to make money from doing this? It must cost a ton of money to develop UE4 but it sounds like they won't make much money if they do this.

Or are they gambling on having a ton of people use their engine so that the 5% thing adds up?

Think about how much the following games combined will make

Tekken 7, Street Fighter V, Fable Legends, Kingdom Hearts 3, Dead Island 2, Sony Bends next title, etc.

Now take 5% of that revenue and give it to Epic. That chunk of change alone from just those games is pretty substantial

 

[Kezen]

Or are they gambling on having a ton of people use their engine so that the 5% thing adds up?

That's the plan. Epic is banking all they have on the success of their engine.
But I hope they have enough funds for a AAA game. Those Infiltrator assets have to be from one of their internal project, right ?

I'm not interested in Fortnite. I was that futuristic/sci-fi IP based on the Samaritan/Infiltrator.

 

[Drencrom]

Wow, that's pretty crazy.

 

[Nirolak]

Unity supports more platforms though doesn't it?

Eg it doesnt look like UE4 supports Linux unless I Google failed

I like the idea of promoting platforms to keep windows and DX with a competitor.

https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Linux_Support

 

[THEF3AR]

Off the top of my head upcoming big titles on UE4

Kingdom Hearts 3
Fable Legends
Dead Island 2
Sony Bends next title
Street Fighter V
Tekken 7

and a ton more.

Gears of War 4

 

[DorkyMohr]

Very cool, was getting impatient waiting on Unity 5 to get out of beta. Good timing.

 

[Dictator93]

Competition is awesome

At this point it does not even seem like competition anymore. Epic was seemingly crushing Unity and Cryengine as of late with their updates and community interaction, this feels more like "the final nail in the proverbial coffin."

This is a microsoft like move actually. It takes money to make this step and Epic must be swimming in it.

 

[Orayn]

Stupid q - I assume ue is c++ only?

C++ is the main thing, yeah, but apparently there is a way to use C# now.

It also has Blueprint, which is a fairly powerful visual scripting system.

 

[SerTapTap]

That's the plan. Epic is banking all they have on the success of their engine.
But I hope they have enough funds for a AAA game. Those Infiltrator assets have to be from one of their internal project, right ?

They're making Unreal Tournament 4, what more do you need?

 

[raphier]

Unity supports more platforms though doesn't it?

Eg it doesnt look like UE4 supports Linux unless I Google failed

I like the idea of promoting platforms to keep windows and DX with a competitor.

tbh, most games are developed mobile and windows in mind, no? I would say that does affect Unity somewhat.

 

[CyberPunked]

Well, shit. Crytek need to step it up with CryEngine now more than ever.

 

[Unain]

This news is awesome!
Love the ability to prototype quickly in Unreal Engine 4 with Blueprints.

Time to make some tutorials for people picking it up, because lots of people are going to try Unreal Engine now.

 

[Freeman]

Great.

 

[Gameboy415]

Wow, very cool news!

I've had a blast learning how to use UE4 over the last ~year and this should help save our team some money!

 

[Yibby]

Wait, does this mean you can now access UT development builds without a UE4 subscription?

Maybe, i don't know if GIT Access is still restricted.

 

[Durante]

Stupid q - I assume ue is c++ only?

You can do a lot of higher-level stuff in blueprints, but the real meat of the engine is all C++.

Unity supports more platforms though doesn't it?

Eg it doesnt look like UE4 supports Linux unless I Google failed

I like the idea of promoting platforms to keep windows and DX with a competitor.

Present state of Unreal Engine 4 on Linux

Right now you can cross-compile content for Linux on Windows ie. cook and package your projects for Linux platform; compile and run UE Server, Game, Client and the Editor natively in Linux.

 

[An-Det]

That's fantastic and saves me $20 a month, great move.

 

[ArkkAngel007]

Can't wait to try my hand with it.

 

[FireSol]

Well, not everyone can spend 15 years learning a language

Yep, and it even harder to catch things up

 

[Future PhaZe]

fantastic

truly

 

[Cirruss]

Doh and I just reupped my sub last week to get 4.7, haven't even had the chance to use it yet so I may as well have had waited for it to go free.

I was wondering how they were going to manage to keep up the updates in order to give value to the subscription, guess this makes things easier for everyone now.

 

[Nirolak]

Well, shit. Crytek need to step it up with CryEngine now more than ever.

I wouldn't really consider CryEngine to be a competitor that's driving decision making these days.

The engine war is basically between Epic coming from the high end and going down while Unity started at the low end and went up.

 

[Dictator93]

Well, shit. Crytek need to step it up with CryEngine now more than ever.

Crytek has update 3.7 coming out soon. But they have been so tight lipped about it... who knows what it really entails.

One thing for certain is that it is large apparently...

I wouldn't really consider CryEngine to be a competitor that's driving decision making these days.

The engine war is basically between Epic coming from the high end and going down while Unity started at the low end and went up.

Yeah, graphically intensive indie projects seem to gravitate towards Unreal.

 

[Dmented]

Did we get some money back? I have $30 credit in my account now.

 

[The Shogun]

A lot of Microsoft's stuff is on it in general. Crackdown and Scalebound for example.

Yep and of course Black Tusk / Gears as well is confirmed UE4

I don't think this is a desperation move at all, I just think Epic is weighing what will be the best thing to get as high of an adoption rate as possible and decided free is the way to go.

I mean for indie teams this is massive news. UE4 is a fantastic engine.

 

[mephixto]

Stupid q - I assume ue is c++ only?

Like everything good in life

 

[mnz]

On a related note, have there been any big budget AAA games made on UE4?

Daylight...

 

[Begaria]

Quite the move. UE3 was pretty common last gen, methinks UE4 will be even more prolific.

 

[decoy11]

Wait wait wait wait I just realized something. If UE4 and all the tools are free does this mean that modding is going to be a lot easier and better. I mean holy crap what is better to mod a game then the tools the devs used to make the game.

 

[cleveridea]

UE4 must be massively successful for Epic. Either that, or this is desperation, but from everything I have observed that seems incredibly unlikely.

I interpreted this in reverse as is Unity putting pressure on them, since its popular with a lot of indies?

I dont follow it closely, but I got the impression than UE was for large companies paying a significant fee for good support vs Unity going the software only route (they wanted to be the Photoshop of games development basically, ie low price but high volume)

 

[Kezen]

They're making Unreal Tournament 4, what more do you need?

It's cool to see Unreal Tournament back but...Deep inside me I really want this Samaritan/Infiltrator game. It just looks so cool.
Ever since I saw the Samaritan demo I was in love with the setting, I know it's supposedly from an old project called Blueprint or Nano.
http://www.vgleaks.com/project-nano-aka-blueprint-from-epic-games-unveiled

I hope it has not been definitely buried.

My heart bleeds just seeing this and realizing it's not an already announced game. I love this kind of universe so much.
I don't think I'll ever get over it. It saddens me beyond words.

 

[Dizzy-4U]

Oh yeah!!! would you look at that!

https://docs.unrealengine.com/lates...her&utm_medium=software&utm_campaign=learntab

 

[Rosur]

C++ is the main thing, yeah, but apparently there is a way to use C# now.

It also has Blueprint, which is a fairly powerful visual scripting system.

I might have to look into this. Is a C#/ Web Dev and being able to use C# rather than C++ would make things easier for me.