ashecitism
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@casskhaw Valve has plans for e-gifting money to your friends on Steam (finally!) but no release date yet though. #SteamDevDays
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Valve to hold Steam Dev Days conference in January (No Media).
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PandaPedinte
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Finally.
Edit: So the first day is over? Now we wait to read the developers impressions about the Gigabyte Steam Machine.
Sentenza
Member
Aren't those the super tiny ones? I doubt there's anything exciting about them.
-MD-
Member
Or that. Either way works for me, game just feels like you said too unfocused.
Nah, he just doesn't bother with tongue in cheek Internet discourse. I just have my own reservations about developing on Steam... Though it would be tempting to sell him to Valve for all the games.
Only exciting if you want to see what intergrated graphics cards can do game-wise. Otherwise it's more a "streaming" device, yeah?
ashecitism
Member
"Apparently Valve worked with Khronos to finally establish an open source reference GLSL compiler: http://www.khronos.org/opengles/sdk/tools/Reference-Compiler/"
"Valve is also working on their own vendor-independent OpenGL debugger called VOGL; they even tested it on Overgrowth already!"
which I already linked above
http://richg42.blogspot.de/2014/01/vogl-opengl-tracerdebugger-bonus-content.html
"Valve is also working on their own vendor-independent OpenGL debugger called VOGL; they even tested it on Overgrowth already!"
which I already linked above
http://richg42.blogspot.de/2014/01/vogl-opengl-tracerdebugger-bonus-content.html
alexandros
Banned
Damn, all this is going right over my head. Can anyone explain why this is important?
Sentenza
Member
Apparently a competent debugger was the single most requested development tool missing to encourage developers to jump on Linux/OGL, streamlining the process a lot, and Valve is delivering exactly that.
It's pretty much a big deal in Linux development regardless of how successful this can be for Valve's goals, from what I grasped reading here and there.
Mavromatis
Member
I assume this will be the event where Valve sets the Steam Machine tax on PCs as an alternative or supplement to Windows tax.
Sentenza
Member
The what?
ashecitism
Member
Ubisoft dev
"Interesting how everyone on Twitter is so excited at #steamdevdays. Wasn't the same with MS and Sony. Because secrecy, but also because(...)"
"Valve: "we have all these features, feel free to use them". MS/Sony/Nintendo: "we have these features, you have to support them""
"@melchiorcorgie you're comparing a conference event to a press event tho? Neither MS nor Sony have community engagement like this (afaik)"
"@LukeD there were leaks about tech conferences from MS/Sony. But your right the community wasn't involved"
"Interesting how everyone on Twitter is so excited at #steamdevdays. Wasn't the same with MS and Sony. Because secrecy, but also because(...)"
"Valve: "we have all these features, feel free to use them". MS/Sony/Nintendo: "we have these features, you have to support them""
"@melchiorcorgie you're comparing a conference event to a press event tho? Neither MS nor Sony have community engagement like this (afaik)"
"@LukeD there were leaks about tech conferences from MS/Sony. But your right the community wasn't involved"
A lot of Microsoft's power in 3D apis comes from the fact they make darn good tools. When your shader crashes or doesn't do what you'd expect it to do you want to know why, what you had in memory, etc, but since GPUs are like mini-computers inside your computer it's really hard to get that data. Unless you're using the directx debugger, that is, because it's one of those darn good tools. But until now if you were working with opengl instead of DX you were on your own. A lot of unwillingness from devs to switch to opengl is that it lacks that kind of good tools.
Frank Jaeger
Member
How is the potential of OGL compared to DX? I mean is OGL able to do everything DX does at this point? If not how far behing is it?
People that have top of the line machines want to have top of the line effects on their games. These people would never go to OGL/Linux if the same experience of DX was not mantained!
People that have top of the line machines want to have top of the line effects on their games. These people would never go to OGL/Linux if the same experience of DX was not mantained!
alexandros
Banned
Thanks guys, I now understand why this is a big deal. It is incredible how much excitement there is among developers for Steam Dev Days, the event is a massive success. I'd say Valve can look forward to a lot of Linux support in the future.
PandaPedinte
Member
What is "Windows tax"?
Strange things to say. MS has developer conferences every year.
alexandros
Banned
Maybe they do, but it seems Valve's thing is a lot more fun for them.
Probably, I'm sure it isn't fun to have to pay $2000, lol. I'm assuming this Valve thing was free.
ashecitism
Member
It was $95.
Ivan
Member
Something I'd really like to see (I know I won't):
Text input is still a huge problem on any standard gamepad. Whatever you do, it's just not good enough, and text input is very important while gaming, especially on pc.
How about some very cheap, low quality, black and white screen in the middle just for text input. It's black and unobtrusive all the time, but when you click on it you get white illuminated keyboard like on smartphones. Full keyboard with prediction etc. I wonder if that could be cheap enough...
Text input is still a huge problem on any standard gamepad. Whatever you do, it's just not good enough, and text input is very important while gaming, especially on pc.
How about some very cheap, low quality, black and white screen in the middle just for text input. It's black and unobtrusive all the time, but when you click on it you get white illuminated keyboard like on smartphones. Full keyboard with prediction etc. I wonder if that could be cheap enough...
ashecitism
Member
yes, videos will be available eventually
I'd love to be able to ditch PayPal but I don't see Valve allowing cross-currency transactions and I assume this stance is why the scope of supported currencies is being broadened.
This is huge. In fact, I'll start using GLslang today!
ashecitism
Member
did you get my pm?
seemed like devs were definitely excited
"glslang GLSL compiler could be serious shiznit, can’t wait to check it out #OpenGL #SteamDevDays"
"QtCreator, another great tool I wasn’t aware of. Probably cause I used to despise Qt. Mea culpa! #SteamDevDays"
"Wonderful! Valve talk on Linux debugging: Secret weapon is using Qt-Creator (latest). Works great. Huzzah! I use less GDB. ;D #SteamDevDays"
seemed like devs were definitely excited
"glslang GLSL compiler could be serious shiznit, can’t wait to check it out #OpenGL #SteamDevDays"
"QtCreator, another great tool I wasn’t aware of. Probably cause I used to despise Qt. Mea culpa! #SteamDevDays"
"Wonderful! Valve talk on Linux debugging: Secret weapon is using Qt-Creator (latest). Works great. Huzzah! I use less GDB. ;D #SteamDevDays"
ashecitism
Member
Garry Newman (Garry's Mod) on day 1: http://garry.tv/2014/01/16/steam-dev-days-day-1/
Hellsing321
Member
Another interesting bit of info in there is that Rust has sold half a million units in a month.
ashecitism
Member
for easier following: http://steamdb.info/blog/43/
SteveWinwood
Member
So excited to hear about the vr stuff today.
PandaPedinte
Member
Today is going to be amazing.
ashecitism
Member
looks like a useful method
"reduce non-#gamedev noise in your stream == use search operators: #steamdevdays lang:en near:"47.6114228,-122.3315379" within:1mi"
edit: maybe you can leave that 'within:1mi' part out
"reduce non-#gamedev noise in your stream == use search operators: #steamdevdays lang:en near:"47.6114228,-122.3315379" within:1mi"
edit: maybe you can leave that 'within:1mi' part out
SteveWinwood
Member
I changed it to 10.
ashecitism
Member
The Corporate Anthropology of Valve And Why It Matters. Guess it doesn't matter too much, session cancelled. #steamdevdays #conspiracytheory
The "Corporate Anthropology of Valve" session at 5PM has been cancelled. #SteamDevDays
The "Corporate Anthropology of Valve" session at 5PM has been cancelled. #SteamDevDays
PandaPedinte
Member
Interfectum
Member
Every conference I go to they always cancel the last few sessions on the last day. I think people just start leaving after lunch to catch a plane home.
ashecitism
Member
Candescence
Member
Never let the Scout draw charts, it cannot possibly end well. Where'd he get the jester hat, anyway?
Understoodthatreference.gif
ashecitism
Member
ashecitism
Member
angular graphics
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So $10.2Million with 661 creators does mean each creator gets around 15,5k in average?
ashecitism
Member
"484,768 compendiums were sold during The International, which added an additional $1.2M to the prize pool. #SteamDevDays"
IAmRandom31
Banned
Today may be the offshore earthquake that will soon create the tidal wave of developer support for OpenGL and Linux game development.
If Microsoft is truly ignoring this, which they are not .... Can't be, they will be seeing themselves out of the consumer PC realm in 5 years.
Bring on the Revolution. It's about time for one.
If Microsoft is truly ignoring this, which they are not .... Can't be, they will be seeing themselves out of the consumer PC realm in 5 years.
Bring on the Revolution. It's about time for one.
Kinky John
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