Yes, but they aren't nearly as front loaded. Especially the 2D Marios.
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Wii U launch attach ratio=1.2, Wii launch attach ratio=2
- Thread starter Horse Armour
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Yes we did. It was called the gamecube and had the superior version. NSMBU is a much bigger seller anyway
Gamer @ Heart
Member
Disagree. Those prices get stupid as they dont reflect the market 3 months after launch, but having it be the same price as they could get it elsewhere isnt going to turn away that many heads.
Did the 360 had a bunch of bundle sales?
Horse Armour
Member
Relative to the Wii lineup, it's a lot better. You might not personally like the 3rd party games but you can't argue that they're not massively better than Red Steel.
The Wii was profitable from the very start. The Wii U has to have one game sold with it to become profitable for Nintendo. The fact that retailers sold 2 games to every Wii at launch is astounding because it was all profit.
That being said, after playing with one for a few hours, I cancelled my pre-order/pay off because ZombiU was not enough to pull me into the system and I have not been a fan of NSMB. Do I hate fun? Maybe when it comes to Nintendo, but there just isn't enough at launch.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Twilight Princess launched around a month earlier on the Wii.
Except it isn't unfriendly at all, actually. You don't really notice the shortcomings early on.
lies...
lol, i love how you put the disc channel in the lower corner.
"never gonna use this anyway!"
i got six games now. but i guess you cant count GAF as anything standart.
WE'RE THE .2! *revolution*
mentalfloss
Banned
You don't think that people may have bought less retail games in the first month if there's good arcade games available? Especially with the Wii U's higher price tag.
I wonder if a good amount of sales are coming from parents stocking up for Christmas, who will mostly be getting games after they actually open it. Would be interesting to see sales figures vs connecting and updating figures.
The Gamecube version came weeks later, Zelda is one of the series people want day one. Which also means it's a lot more front loaded than NSMB.
ZeroGravity
Member
Yup.
lies...
What's your NinID, gamer?
I was just about to point this out. I know a few people who only purchased digitally.
Will you tell them I'm sorry? Nintendo doesn't have the greatest track record with that kinda stuff along with not being able to move your NinID to another Wii U.
KojiKnight
Member
These attach ratios aren't likely counting digital... How many retail games did Wii launch with again? 
Freezie KO
Banned
I bought one game. And I got a basic. Part of the problem over here.
Release Pikmin 3!
Release Pikmin 3!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Did your part supporting some mediocre stuff. Fight the fine fight baby
<shrug> I don't see the negatives as being all that bad, and unless games start getting an install option, I may be going digital myself. Playing the FIFA demo off of the HDD was nice and I'd like to do that more often even if I buy the game on disc.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
These attach ratios aren't likely counting digital... How many retail games did Wii launch with again?
27.
Pretty sure it just had good games and an audience that bought a lot of games. In Europe at least the PlayStations have always been big with casuals that only buy Fifa, NFS, Sing Star or Gran Turismo. Fifa was one of the first games to sell best on the PS3.
Damn, what's up with people? I got pretty much the same games and they're fun. Okay, so you don't like them, but there are people out there who do.
frankie_baby
Member
over time the percentage buying digitally will be little more than statistical noise but at launch the percentage of owners that are hardcore tech geeks and thus more likely to buy digitally is almost certainly much higher so in the US at least i expect digital sales to be pretty significant right now
TheGreyHulk
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the only game to buy really was NSMBU.
i was going to get ZombiU as well, but the crazy fluctuating reviews put me off on it.
ended up getting black ops 2 for $36 in the TRU buy 1 get 1 40% off wii/wiiu titles when i bought my launch system.
crazy thing is that i'm going to trade in black ops 2 to best buy so i can buy it again on 360 cuz there's not enough people online and i wanna play with friends who only have 360s
i was going to get ZombiU as well, but the crazy fluctuating reviews put me off on it.
ended up getting black ops 2 for $36 in the TRU buy 1 get 1 40% off wii/wiiu titles when i bought my launch system.
crazy thing is that i'm going to trade in black ops 2 to best buy so i can buy it again on 360 cuz there's not enough people online and i wanna play with friends who only have 360s
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Launch day insanity. We all get it but the Wii U's is especially bad
dragonfart28
Banned
omg this is obviously because the console is more expensive!
Little Green Yoda
Member
Damn, 360 was a beast.
Until we see some DD numbers, people clamoring about "b-b-but digital!" are going to sound like desperate damage control.
lunchwithyuzo
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Nope. If you add bundled software Wii attach rate becomes 3 and Wii U becomes 1.95.
didn't happen with the vita, i don't imagine why that would change with the wiiu
Bad for whom, exactly? I own one and find it fun and sure it's not perfect, but what system is?
Even beyond Twilight Princess I think the launch games on the Wii were more INTERESTING, whether or not they are actively better. Rabbids hit before mini game collections got too tired AND showed off what the Wii Remote could do, Trauma Center was a very good conversion of the DS game, and both Red Steel and Call of Duty 3 took advantage of the pointer for a different style of FPS (and CoD3 came out remarkably well given it was handed off to a small team). The Wii U lineup might be objectively better, but that's mainly owing to having a bunch of late ports on the system at launch that if we REALLY cared about would've gotten on another platform already, and as such they likely didn't make good use of the Game Pad, though it COULD be useful for displaying a map (especially true for AC3 from what I've heard). That, and NSMB's getting pretty tired, while everyone was chomping for a semi-realistic Zelda more akin to OoT than WW, or at least it came out more distinct for it.
On a similar note: I think if they continue the NSMB line they're going to need to go back and look at how things got shaken up between 1, 3, and World and try to recapture that again, so far the series is more like SMB2j on and on if they didn't go super hardcore and spiced things up a BIT more.
On a similar note: I think if they continue the NSMB line they're going to need to go back and look at how things got shaken up between 1, 3, and World and try to recapture that again, so far the series is more like SMB2j on and on if they didn't go super hardcore and spiced things up a BIT more.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
Did my part
Day1:
NSMBWU
Nintendoland (Bundled)
Thanksgiving Day:
Ninja Gaiden 3 RE
Mass Effect 3: SE
Day n/a:
Tekken Tag Tourny 2
Zombi-U
Day1:
NSMBWU
Nintendoland (Bundled)
Thanksgiving Day:
Ninja Gaiden 3 RE
Mass Effect 3: SE
Day n/a:
Tekken Tag Tourny 2
Zombi-U
Nah. I'm really enjoying Zombi U and NSMB and wanted Black ops for pointer controls. Haven't played NG:RE yet. The launch in general is pretty unspectacular though.
sooo about PS3 launch......-2 games attach rate?
In terms of Sony's bottom line it pretty much was!
chickdigger802
Banned
poor 360 owners.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Vita ratio is said to be on average 15% digital:retail going by a Sega rep. If that held for Wii U it'd mean about 940k total software sales.
if you're a fan of old school RE1 type survival horror zombiu is totally worth it. if you're going in expecting left 4 dead/CoD zombies mode, yeah you'll likely be disappointed, but if you appreciate survival horror it's a really solid game. methodical, tense, atmospheric goodness.
best launch title available IMO, I initially started playing NSMB but took a small break to play ZombiU and 25~ hours of gaming later still haven't gone back to NSMB. With any luck I'll finally be completing survival mode in ZombiU tonight, which basically like hardcore mode in diablo. 1 death = game over.
grap3fruitman
Banned
If you actually had read the article then you would have seen that the analyst(s) did point out the exact item you claim they overlooked.
Yeah, actually having games to play at launch. How awful. Can't tell if you're being sarcastic so I'm going to assume not.
Does it?
Smiles and Cries
Member
I don't even know what that means, even if I could find it in the menu to turn it off.
My vision is not that great as is so whatever this Overscan fuss I have been hearing about I would need to be educated on the issue... So unless it is an easy fix, shrug?
u r evil
yet reported as facts for now Nintendo is doomed Wii U has no games.
.2 yes my disc is moving to the second page very soon... Tekken now downloading paid $4.99 thanks to DDP points. Warriors next.
who's a gamer? I spend all my time on NEOGAF
NinID: nazaire
There's like 16 games that star Mario on Wii, so yeah I'd expect it to.
Is this SEGA rep the community manager for Hatsune Miku Project Diva simply commenting on the performance of that single game?
Not immediately comparable. The Deluxe is by far the more popular SKU and comes with Nintendoland which isn't quite the same sort of throwaway Wii Sports was, you can actually sink some time into it. Day 1 DD is a difference and I'd imagine early adopters are more likely to buy digital and so it might be skewed higher than with other systems. I'd also point out that the VOD options are also a very large part of Wii U. Some people might not even own it for games. It's hard to say how people are using the system yet but box retail games are not the whole story.