You are clearly missing the good news also then.
what good news ?
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Xbox At gamescom 2017
- Thread starter Bits N Pieces
- Start date
- Status
what good news ?
Not gonna fall for it.
I was serious ? I dont remember any good news/announcements this year except ori 2.
The whole Xbox One X reveal has been on point. DF, E3.
We got Gamepass. Another consumer friendly achievement
Play Anywhere is expanding really fast even with big 3rd party games
BC has improved even more and big fan favorites were added
Active supporting crossplay
So saying "this year has just been a steady flow of bad news and disappointment on the Xbox front."
Is just..
Herp Derpington
Member
But muh exclusives...
CaptainZombie
Member
How can we view tonight's conference? Is it going to stream on YouTube?
oh yeah, I was too focused on the delays and cancellation stuff sorry. Sometimes I forget that they absolutly killing it in everthing but the games.
The Pet of the Month
Member
Don't forget giveaways, various new application launches, a new dashboard imminent with the engineering team actively listening to feedback, etc.
Good news doesn't necessarily have to be big.
Mixer
So there is a mixpot, but only dlc no games
https://blog.mixer.com/mixer-gamescom-2017/
I wonder for what game
https://blog.mixer.com/mixer-gamescom-2017/
I wonder for what game
Okami Haundo
Member
Have we had any word on that whole game refund thing? I know it was in testing a bit ago but I haven't heard anything else since then.
LMAO, just a few posts apart. This place never changes.
Glorious. Definitely the best looking console I've ever seen, a real homage to the OG Xbox. Wonder what it looks like in other colours.
Nope. Probably working on it still. Dealing with other publishers etc.
I can pay to rent games. neat.
I can play games on my pc. neat.
BC hasn't "improved" at all, and we're still missing a large majority of great 360 titles that haven't been re-released in some fashion.
Crossplay is... fine? I guess? What audience is this really for? the people who wanna play minecraft together still? Rocket league? I sure as shit wouldn't wanna play a shooter with the PC crowd.
They wanna sell a $500 console that doesn't have access to an entire library of incredible titles that have been pouring into the Sony camp, and they have nothing impressive on the horizon since MS cancelled the few titles they did have.
I'd say they have a serious concern. And I'm not sure how the general public is gonna react to Scorpio once it's out in the wild.
Makes one wonder what the state of play would be with a slew of killer exclusives along side all that goodness. There is no doubt in my mind that MS is doing really well on the services front, but there needs to be a concerted effort on exclusives going forward. MS still have much to prove.
Yeahhhh. Not gonna bother.
I'd agree with all of these for the most part except Play Anywhere. Expanding really fast maybe be a bit of an over statement. Still a hit of miss yes some big 3rd party title have been included like RE but until it's wider spread and more marquis titles i.e. Destiny, Red Dead, 2K Sports etc titles are included it is not as impactful as it has the potential to be
digoutyoursoul
Member
People have different views though, what you listed there, a lot of it is just meh to me but not to you. I'm fine with that. I think they should be doing better from a first party perspective and certain things with the UI, you may not agree, cool.
Sure. But remember the mindset when it was first announced. It was expected 3rd party wasnt gonna bother at all. And alot of depends also on who has marketing rights.
You cant ignore this is all good stuff tho. Important for you or not. First party stuff needs to be better. But that was not the point. The comment "this year has just been a steady flow of bad news and disappointment on the Xbox front." was the point.
AlexFlame116
Member
I need the details on OG Xbox BC please Microsoft!
Also I want a cookie.
Also I want a cookie.
The Pet of the Month
Member
Different views are fine, but to argue that there hasn't been any good news about Xbox is a bit silly.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Very true and man how I wish they would finally turn this around. I wonder what is required for that, sure they never had as many studios as Sony has but man, they really aren't doing a killing job at bringing in new games. Wonder if we're gonna see a change. If Sony or Ninty had been in this position they would have corrected it for sure. It's that simple.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I think they are nice things yeah, the ability to play older games is a good convenience like it was on the Wii, PS3, 360, PS2 etc but frankly I'm a bit tired of hearing about it, like it's a main headline each week or a game being put on there is some massive megaton (not saying you are like that, I've seen others tho)
We are four years into this systems life span. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect better from a software standpoint, the most important aspect of any system. I've gone off Phil Spencer, a big talker with little substance in my view. It feels like the discussions about their first party have dragged on for years and I see nothing changing for the immediate future. Massive potential not being realised with the brand.
Steverulez
Member
These are fine, but I have a console to play games on, and I expect Microsoft to do a lot more than they are doing.
The 10 year anniversary of that incredible 2007, and we've had 3 new games this year from ms? Forza, halo Wars, super luckys tale, plus some remasters not good enough.
Barely any new game announcements in recent years, 2018 is mainly delayed games so far. Need to sort their shit out
digoutyoursoul
Member
nice conveniences I see them as, not saying they are bad news, they just don't do much for me personally.
All true. But again the point was about nothing positive coming out. Wich is just false looking at facts. Its like complety ignoring Sony its first party output and saying only bad news came out.
The big picture is everything. Not only first party or features.
Please read all my other responses.
Yearsoflurking
Member
We have anniversary years for incredible
Game output years now 😂? Yeah this year has been downright pathetic but wishing on years based on past is a bit much. Next year should be incredible by default
When I read that project hollywood thing I was hoping ms is announcing an aa title and then the halo wars 2 complete edition crushed that hope :/
Imo the best ms could do is pump out qualtiy aa titles to turn that ship arround (as a start) and gamescom would have been the perfect place to unveil one
:/Imo the best ms could do is pump out qualtiy aa titles to turn that ship arround (as a start) and gamescom would have been the perfect place to unveil one
MosquitoSmasher
Member
At least we know Spencer understands it's a problem.
I guess but there's also the thing that we got more exclusives under Don than Phil. Unless I'm wrong but we got Ryse, DR3, Sunset Overdrive and QB as exclusives under Don. Correct me if I'm wrong. Of course there's the fact that there could have been a Ryse 2, DR4 happened although not full exclusive to console, Sunset Overdrive sadly didn't do well and neither did QB.
It's a bad situation and one where not only MS is to blame.
I wouldn't call the reveal on point. Don't you remember Spencer saying gamers without a 4ak Tab shouldn't buy the Xbox One X? That was clearly nonsense to sell more Xbox One S units.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-15-xbox-boss-phil-spencer-the-big-interview
Calling Game Pass a "consumer friendly achievement" is also a bit much. The announced refund system is definitely a consumer friendly achievement. Where is that anyway? Seems to take some time to implement.
Haha, the "we may" is a bit weird.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Eternal Sonata for sure, but also Vesperia and Dust. Even if that's not a RPG.
Steverulez
Member
I mean, it's been 10 years, was just an observation? Best line-up Xbox has ever had, think you've missed the point of my post.
Next year being incredible depends on how good the games actually are, and what else they've got.
WHAT IF THEY SHOW A NEW AUTOMOBIL ON STAGE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Crooked16th
Banned
3pm EST right?
The Pet of the Month
Member
I feel you, Microsoft could always be doing better with the games issue. But there's no crying over spilt milk.
Still, there's some cool stuff coming from the team, so I have faith.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Yep.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Nintendo : really good at quality game exclusives
Microsoft: really good at hardware, services and online
Sony: pretty good at what Nintendo and Microsoft are both really good at
It's all about choices
Microsoft: really good at hardware, services and online
Sony: pretty good at what Nintendo and Microsoft are both really good at
It's all about choices
Okydoky captain.
Merchandise
Member
This looks really dull. OG PS4 looks better with the stripe down the middle.
I would not say Sony is good at services. Absolutely not. They are missing a ton of pro-consumer stuff that Microsoft is excelling in.
They have no BC, no ability to change gamertag, no Looking For Group, no steam-like refunds, no Play Anywhere, no ability to change gamertags, and no console cross-platform play. And they're missing multiple subscription options like Games Pass and EA Access.
Microsoft has all of that. I think what they need for a perfect services portfolio is to also make these changes: completely get rid of any release date parity clause, and completely get rid of the 50k minimum disc print rule.
Man just imagine if Microsoft had all that stuff, and the most powerful console, and increased 1st party, and better relationships with indies/third-parties. Shit bro... I'd be in heaven.
AlexFlame116
Member
Please don't start.
Agreed. Don't need these kind of lists.
- Status