CambriaRising
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I guess sarcasm doesn't travel well over the internet, hah.
I understood the sarcasm
I guess sarcasm doesn't travel well over the internet, hah.
Perf tweaking is the easiest and last thing to do in development.
We're not talking about the ram or clocks being halved.
Yeah, but when you say things like "look at how fast this is" as if you have a UI in front of you that is real and working better than the competition. It's a straight up lie.serious question, did people not know the reveal was pre-recorded? maybe 'scripted' is better word, I mean. it was live. but the interface and stuff. MS does that every year. it was pretty hilarious last time seeing the prompter at E3 last year tell Joe Montana "you will score a touch down now. celebrate!' when he was demoing Madden.
Yeah, but when you say things like "look at how fast this is" as if you have a UI in front of you that is real and working better than the competition. It's a straight up lie.
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how they could be having all that trouble with heat with a very nicely sized box, an external power brick, and that humongous fan?.
Also wouldn't Thuway and ProElite's posts be better relegated to a new thread? That might be newsworthy.
Buckby insider knowledge is best insider knowledge.
Heat is not the problem. Yields are the problem. Microsoft, presumably, is having trouble manufacturing APUs that are good enough to run at their rated speeds.
I am not trying to bring out the MS Defense Force at me, but I've heard GPU clocks might be downgraded. 8-900 gigaflops for gaming. The APU is big. This isn't 100% confirmed though and is being done to improve yields.
CBoat do you mind adding anything?
So just like the original Kinect. It's all smoke and mirrors at this point.
Heat is not the problem. Yields are the problem. Microsoft, presumably, is having trouble manufacturing APUs that are good enough to run at their rated speeds.
It's lying since they tried to sell it as a real live demo. They even said they were using a Comcast feed.
Umm, I thought it was pretty obvious that it was all staged. Come on guys, you're really stretching now to hate on this thing.
I am not trying to bring out the MS Defense Force at me, but I've heard GPU clocks might be downgraded. 8-900 gigaflops for gaming. The APU is big. This isn't 100% confirmed though and is being done to improve yields.
CBoat do you mind adding anything?
The Xbone APU is about the size of Tahiti (7970). Yields for that versus something the size of the 360 SoC could be vastly different.I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how they could be having all that trouble with heat with a very nicely sized box, an external power brick, and that humongous fan?.
People grilled the Wii U for having a shitty OS, and now we see that the XBone might also have some OS issues of its own.
I also don't think we've seen any real time footage of the PS4 OS in action either... wonder why..
E3 couldn't come any sooner.
This cannot be real.... holy shit.
I guess when you have the infinite power of the cloud, your specs don't matter anyway, right?
What? Of course we will.
Hmm, I've been hearing some of this myself. It'll be hilarious if MS tries to sell a more expensive gaming machine with 1/2 of the perf. Knowing people's buying habits, they still might beat Sony on the market though. :/
I am not trying to bring out the MS Defense Force at me, but I've heard GPU clocks might be downgraded. 8-900 gigaflops for gaming. The APU is big. This isn't 100% confirmed though and is being done to improve yields.
CBoat do you mind adding anything?
I guess that might actually be the idea, or have been the idea at one point.
Thuway, when did you hear this? Because last time, if I recall correctly, you said your info was a few months old.
If What is being said is true than couldn't the clock speed be downgraded for the launch batch of consoles and then brought up to snuff on wave two?
No shit? It's a proof of concept, and the product is 6 months away. They would have been stupid to have beta software demoed live. This is honestly outrage for the sake of outrage at this point, evident by the fact that the 'damning' video in question is weeks old. I was under the impression that everyone knew the OS demo was smoke and mirrors a day or so after the event?
I am not trying to bring out the MS Defense Force at me, but I've heard GPU clocks might be downgraded. 8-900 gigaflops for gaming. The APU is big. This isn't 100% confirmed though and is being done to improve yields.
CBoat do you mind adding anything?
Hmm, I've been hearing some of this myself. It'll be hilarious if MS tries to sell a more expensive gaming machine with 1/2 of the perf. Knowing people's buying habits, they still might beat Sony on the market though. :/
Also someone has suggested to me sony is doing the same, but I've heard from Sony devs the machine is very mature and not facing the issues Xbox One is. Microsoft started late.
I wouldn't worry about Sony. In fact I am hearing the issue is because ES RAM is causing issues.
i bet there will be 720p PS4 games, for sure... heck, I still have nice 720p Panny Plasma that I will likely not change that soon.
Hmm, I've been hearing some of this myself. It'll be hilarious if MS tries to sell a more expensive gaming machine with 1/2 of the perf. Knowing people's buying habits, they still might beat Sony on the market though. :/
Also someone has suggested to me sony is doing the same...
I heard this today from someone reliable, but I don't want to make this a fact unless I hear it from more than one source. ProElite is saying he's heard this too, but I want someone else to confirm before this turns out to be true or false. If it's false I'll be tarred and hung, but I take those risks when I hear things :/.
I am not trying to bring out the MS Defense Force at me, but I've heard GPU clocks might be downgraded. 8-900 gigaflops for gaming. The APU is big. This isn't 100% confirmed though and is being done to improve yields.
CBoat do you mind adding anything?
I heard this today from someone reliable, but I don't want to make this a fact unless I hear it from more than one source. ProElite is saying he's heard this too, but I want someone else to confirm before this turns out to be true or false. If it's false I'll be tarred and hung, but I take those risks when I hear things :/.
It wasn't obvious it was staged, it was obvious the price is right video, nba game, and skype call were pre recorded, which all could have been easily feed to a running xbox. It was not obvious the whole thing wasn't ran on actual hardware, even Microsoft acted like it was, so quit acting like you knew differently.
Who is cboat? I don't see a user with that name. Is it short for something? I wanna know the insiders!good job, MS. Thanks, CBOAT. GOAT insider.
AND HOLY SHIT @ possibly downclocking their shit even further.
Holy FUCK if true.
I heard this today from someone reliable,
Who is cboat? I don't see a user with that name. Is it short for something? I wanna know the insiders!
Have you shared any info like this in the past? Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with your posts.I'll help out. I can confirm for a fact that it's false. If I'm wrong, I'll take a ban. I can't say how I know this for sure, but I'm pretty damn sure.
I am not trying to bring out the MS Defense Force at me, but I've heard GPU clocks might be downgraded. 8-900 gigaflops for gaming. The APU is big. This isn't 100% confirmed though and is being done to improve yields.
CBoat do you mind adding anything?