IrishNinja
Member
...No.
he killed your old man in cold blood; you make friends with whoever Ryo's dad did wrong by in the day, once the score is settled. it's the only way.
that's you in these threads, bro
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Yu Suzuki to hold Shenmue post-mortem at GDC 2014; Cerny to translate
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...No.
he killed your old man in cold blood; you make friends with whoever Ryo's dad did wrong by in the day, once the score is settled. it's the only way.
that's you in these threads, bro
Revenge is a path to destruction unless you do it would be a pretty unsatisfactory ending of this series.
bishopcruz
Member
If Shenmue 3 gets made, I wonder how everyone will respond to the inevitable Magic and mysticism that would be incoming.
I've already posted a few times about how part of me is glad the series is dead because it would only end up getting really fucking stupid.
Ryo becomes a Phoenix and Lan Di a Dragon. Then Shenhua the tree joins the fray!
IrishNinja
Member
it's righteous justice though; if we're basing this off of kung-fu flick tropes (which seemed to be the series norm as i recall) there's plenty of times the villain loses their head/etc and heroes go off into the sunset, i don't think it's a given that they make peace at the end
this bit is indeed worrying, especially in a world where Indigo Prophecy happened...i was really hoping you'd learn to use the sword but it would stay rooted
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Come on, give that Shenmue 1/2 HD collection on PSN!
I don't have a background in kung fu movies so I am not sure what you mean. Is it much deeper than Ryo is righteous because he is the protagonist? And wouldn't it be kind of odd if all your friends who explicitly tell you to not seek revenge are wrong and the moral is you should seek revenge?
Wasn't the beginning of Indigo Prophecy awesome? What a waste.
Professor Beef
Banned
Lan Di was simply taking back what belonged to him. The fact that everyone is willing to listen to some snot-nosed kid who would rather play lucky hit then study martial arts over a mild-mannered business man constantly gives me a headache.
If so then a remake would be great. The graphics, sound and animation is a bit outdated by today standards.
For me its gonna be the annual playthrough of Shen mue on the DC this christmas.
IrishNinja
Member
they told him that, but still aided him in his quest, and taught him skills for just that fight. if anything, they perhaps meant to enjoy his youth & not wholly concentrate on revenge, which is what Club Sega arcades were for: balance.
and no, classic shaw bros kung-fu - like the best of marvel comics etc - are entertaining but rather simple morality tales, so you're not far off the mark.
yeah, Indigo's opening acts were fantastic, totally unrecognizable later in the game sadly. Heavy Rain at least stayed grounded but finding out that the weirdest dangling plotlines had to do with formerly spiritual junk taken out but left unresolved felt...even lazier, somehow.
1) Di could've done that without killing Hazuki's dad
2) the fact that you spent your time playing Lucky Hit and not training speaks to your own poor priorities, beef-chan. that's the lesson Suzuki wanted you to learn.
qualitydisc
Member
Oh my god, my heart, it can't take this teasing.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
I will buy a PS4 if Shenmue 3 is announced for it.
Although, either go all the way with the game or fuck off. No half-measures. The only thing worse than never getting Shenmue 3 is getting a bad Shenmue 3.
Although, either go all the way with the game or fuck off. No half-measures. The only thing worse than never getting Shenmue 3 is getting a bad Shenmue 3.
Perfect.
Professor Beef
Banned
Hazuki's dad started it by not giving back Lan Di's shit. Dude wanted to throw down against the master, that's his own damn fault.
And I wanted to train all the time, but the game didn't want me in the dojo all the time or fighting on the street. How you gonna give me the opportunity to learn, then make me follow a schedule?
ajim
Member
Beautiful <3
ComputerMKII
Banned
That's more signs of life for Shenmue than there are for The Last Guardian.
ComputerMKII
Banned
I agree with this. Please don't Final-Fantasize Shenmue.
EtherMagic
Member
Stupid question guys, don't kill me for this, but...
What was the point of Shenmue? I remember buying it for the Dreamcast, only because it was supposed to be this amazing game with incredible graphics at the time, and all I remember doing was running up to pop machines trying to by Cokes! lol It was sooo boring I ended up trading it in.
If someone can give me a quick recap I would appreciate it. Also, what was so good about it? Just a wonder, don't slaughter me here.
EDIT: And yes, I remember, one of the main reasons aswell for buying at the time was that Yu Suzuki made it, and I have always benn a HUGE fan of his. Just never understood the point of this game and what was so fun about it.
What was the point of Shenmue? I remember buying it for the Dreamcast, only because it was supposed to be this amazing game with incredible graphics at the time, and all I remember doing was running up to pop machines trying to by Cokes! lol It was sooo boring I ended up trading it in.
If someone can give me a quick recap I would appreciate it. Also, what was so good about it? Just a wonder, don't slaughter me here.
EDIT: And yes, I remember, one of the main reasons aswell for buying at the time was that Yu Suzuki made it, and I have always benn a HUGE fan of his. Just never understood the point of this game and what was so fun about it.
UltraGunner
Banned
Sony pls.
I will avenge the death of Iwao Hazuki one way or the other.
I will avenge the death of Iwao Hazuki one way or the other.
nelsonroyale
Member
This is probably the last hope for the fans. I can't believe they have never made a sequel in this series. It is probably the most requested cult sequel in gaming.
ComputerMKII
Banned
It was one of the most expensive games ever made, no wonder Sega isn't so eager for a sequel.
Mike Works
Member
Classic Nintendbots.
UltraGunner
Banned
This game's budget puts triple-A games made TODAY to shame. It was essentially a GTA level game without the GTA level playerbase.
Alx
Member
I'm a big fan of Yu Suzuki's work, but he hasn't worked on anything worth mentioning for almost 10 years. I don't know if I would expect much from him, especially on a Shenmue game, since open-world is the genre that evolved the most during those years and Shenmue was only one of the precursors.
The point was attention to details, and freedom. Especially in the first one, actually. The ability to enter every shop, observe all objects (reproduced with fine details), talk with all NPCs (some of them having their own side story and interactions), observe them react to time of day or weather changes... and of course being able to do other things than following the main story. All of that was quite rare at the time, only a few other games tried it, and they didn't have that production value.
But it's true that all of it is less impressive now. The attention to details is still quite remarkable, but that level of freedom and interaction is now quite common in open world games.
The point was attention to details, and freedom. Especially in the first one, actually. The ability to enter every shop, observe all objects (reproduced with fine details), talk with all NPCs (some of them having their own side story and interactions), observe them react to time of day or weather changes... and of course being able to do other things than following the main story. All of that was quite rare at the time, only a few other games tried it, and they didn't have that production value.
But it's true that all of it is less impressive now. The attention to details is still quite remarkable, but that level of freedom and interaction is now quite common in open world games.
ajim
Member
comparative to the Dreamcast's install base, the game sold amazing.
if the dreamcast had the user base and support of ps2, shenmue would have sold millions.
Shenmue, the franchise, had the budget inflated because they had to create a lot of tech in-house that wasn't the norm back then. This would be a non-issue today.
Not to mention that I think most of the fanbase would be extremely happy if they just re-used the old engine and Shenmue III ended up looking like an HD version of Shenmue II.
Nah, man. It's niche and shit. Let's all forget that Shenmue sold over a million copies on a console that sold 10 million consoles in total.
Not to mention that I think most of the fanbase would be extremely happy if they just re-used the old engine and Shenmue III ended up looking like an HD version of Shenmue II.
Nah, man. It's niche and shit. Let's all forget that Shenmue sold over a million copies on a console that sold 10 million consoles in total.
RoombaDance
Member
I think the industry really needs to replace post-mortem with a better phrase. The death connotations always make it sound like the game was a failed project or the series has been canned. This thread is proof positive that the term causes a lot of confusion.
Could just call it something similar like "post-development interview", "dissection", "development retrospection", "dev reflection".
Anyone got something short and snappy?
Could just call it something similar like "post-development interview", "dissection", "development retrospection", "dev reflection".
Anyone got something short and snappy?
cripterion
Member
EtherMagic
Member
Thanks for refreshing my memory, I remember all that talk at the time, that it was such a free world, etc, etc. I just remember it being sooo boring! lol I guess I'm more of an action guy, Ninja Gaiden type style. At the same time, maybe I just didn't give it a chance, IDK.
Speaking of Ninja Gaiden, where in the hell is Itagaki??? LOVE that guy!!!! My lord, him leaving Team Ninja made me cry!
That series never been the same since! ComputerMKII
Banned
Dissection implies death, too. The term you are looking for is vivisection.
GuitarAnthony
Neo Member
I still want a Dreamcast version.
It's happening!!!!!!
Yes, yes they should. and localisation of Yakuza 5. and Valkyria 4
Fund my dreams, Sony
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
If they announce Shenmue III I will die. I WILL DIIIIIIIIE!
If they announce Shenmue III I will die. I WILL DIIIIIIIIE!
I'm not even sure Yu would like to work on it...
But, yeah, if it ever happened, it would be the greatest videogames megaton ever!
Well I'd fund this gladly but AFAIK the 1st Shenmue cost about 70 million $ so it would be a record-breaking KS if it were to be successful
Well I'd fund this gladly but AFAIK the 1st Shenmue cost about 70 million $ so it would be a record-breaking KS if it were to be successful
No. The entire project from beginning to end cost that amount.