• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

DF: Orbis vs Durango Spec Analysis

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
The only way this "no pre-owned games" thing is going to work is if account systems are incredibly mobile. Say Xbox3 has a way to communicate with smart phones and your friend can come over and auto-login and insert their game. Otherwise, FAIL.
 
We don't have the final specs for either system.

If the specs remain the same then it would solidify rumors as gospel for many ppl as "controlled leaks". If the specs change then ppl would say they were manufactured and orchestrated to bait the other to do this or that. It also won't look good for the "journalistic integrity" of some outlets. Changes, even moderate ones would be interesting for the resulting drama though.
 

Lynn616

Member
Pretty sure these rumours serve only to paint a really bleak picture to make it seem not that bad when they actually announce something "only" half as bad.

It's pretty standard stuff as far as corporate PR shenanigans go.

I really think there is disinformation being handed out on both sides. Will not be surprised if we have plenty of unexpected Specs coming from Sony and MS.
 

JJD

Member
That said it just isn't as straight forward as the US market. I believe my Xbox packaging has 13 languages on its back :)

Yeah, it's not as straightforward obviously but is not the logistics nightmare some people think! =)

Hopefully EU won't have to wait too long. I think 2 or 3 months at max is OK.

I'll probably get it as soon as it launches on the UK.

I want to parody that expert post but I won't.

So what's the difference between your opinion and mine? You've been pretty vocal about your thoughts on this thread and no one has tried to ridicule you as an "expert".

Feel free to disagree with whatever I say just make sure you post your argument and if want to discuss it.

It's good that you didn't try to parody my post...you might come out as a dick!

Oh wait...
 
So. Says the guy with kaz avatar you're opinion is worthless Sony whore. We don't have the final specs for either system.

I'm still failing to see how the ps4 is super duper more powerful than the x720 which most people are saying ( mainly Sony fan boys). When developers are saying its very similar the only advantage I see is ps4 has a little more power in its gpu.

Are all Sony fanboys this dumb as much as you want to believe ps4 is about equal to the 720. But that won't stop Sony fan boys though.

I'm not seeing a major power difference here it seems like sony fan boys are overreacting. They still haven't explained the move engines yet either so I would calm down before spouting random bullshit.

You need to chill dude!
 
If there's anything more I dislike then fanboys, is people calling others fanboys as a knee jerk reaction. If one says they don't like xbox always online feature, they are immediately a sony fanboy whore. If one says they don't like ps4's gaikai streaming, they are immediately an xbot fanboy whore.

People need to grow up or join another forum. This is why I generally hate video game forums. It's filled with degenerates like these. Neogaf is the most mature forum I've been to so far and would like it to stay that way please.
 

Binabik15

Member
If there's anything more I dislike then fanboys, is people calling others fanboys as a knee jerk reaction. If one says they don't like xbox always online feature, they are immediately a sony fanboy whore. If one says they don't like ps4's gaikai streaming, they are immediately an xbot fanboy whore.o

People need to grow up or join another forum. This is why I generally hate video game forums. It's filled with degenerates like these. Neogaf is the most mature forum I've been to so far and would like it to stay that way please.

Don't worry, enjoy the slow-burning or explosive meltdowns of those guys and see the banhammer strike.

PS: I want Sony pony to be en vouge. Cows and sheep and lemmings is so 2005.
 
If there's anything more I dislike then fanboys, is people calling others fanboys as a knee jerk reaction. If one says they don't like xbox always online feature, they are immediately a sony fanboy whore. If one says they don't like ps4's gaikai streaming, they are immediately an xbot fanboy whore.

People need to grow up or join another forum. This is why I generally hate video game forums. It's filled with degenerates like these. Neogaf is the most mature forum I've been to so far and would like it to stay that way please.

Don't worry, people like that don't last long specifically because GAF isn't like other videogame forums, this kind of shit isn't something we tolerate much of.
 
image.php
Eh, I dunno, guys, but I think the power of the Maple leaf is going to protect this one.
 

rdrr gnr

Member
Yeah, it's not as straightforward obviously but is not the logistics nightmare some people think! =)

Hopefully EU won't have to wait too long. I think 2 or 3 months at max is OK.

I'll probably get it as soon as it launches on the UK.



So what's the difference between your opinion and mine? You've been pretty vocal about your thoughts on this thread and no one has tried to ridicule you as an "expert".

Feel free to disagree with whatever I say just make sure you post your argument and if want to discuss it.

It's good that you didn't try to parody my post...you might come out as a dick!

Oh wait...
Woah. Calm down, JJD. It was in reference to Japanese culture and how they would react if Sony didn't launch there first. A joke -- not a shot at you.
 
Don't worry, people like that don't last long specifically because GAF isn't like other videogame forums, this kind of shit isn't something we tolerate much of.

Good to know. I see he's already been banned.

...On topic. Does anyone wonder if the always online use would be region specific? I just don't see this happening in Europe for both consoles. Wouldn't make business sense.
 

J-Rzez

Member
- ~3GB and 2 CPU cores are reserved for the OS, apps, Kinect, etc.
- Kinect is a pack in

That's a lot of resources dedicated to the OS and other stuff. I can't see it actually eating up that much.

I fear Kinect will almost be certainly packed into the box. Unnecessary waste of price overhead on hardware.
 

Lynn616

Member
That's a lot of resources dedicated to the OS and other stuff. I can't see it actually eating up that much.

I fear Kinect will almost be certainly packed into the box. Unnecessary waste of price overhead on hardware.

Sounds like both PS4 and 720 will have a camera packed in.
 

Spongebob

Banned
Sounds like both PS4 and 720 will have a camera packed in.
It looks like it.

Since the dual shock 4 seems to have built in move functionality there will almost certainly be some sort of camera of sorts packed into every PS4.

My interest in the PS4 has gone down as a result of this.
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Sounds like both PS4 and 720 will have a camera packed in.

Not really, all we know is the SDK documents refer to a new camera. All Playstation cameras have been add-ons and no rumors suggest otherwise at this point. We will know for sure in a few days.
 

Lynn616

Member
Not really, all we know is the SDK documents refer to a new camera. All Playstation cameras have been add-ons and no rumors suggest otherwise at this point. We will know for sure in a few days.

The new controller having a built in Move light makes me think that the dual camera will be packed in.
 
It was me misremembering a quote I didn't see and only saw people talk about it. I believe this might be Sweetvar's original quote about it.

So far I trust what I was told. The high-level guy from EA did talk about this to an extent for both consoles. We'll see eventually.
Having now read that quote, it strikes me as odd.

Typically on competing projects like this a company would institute a "Chinese Wall" between teams.

This is even more relevant considering what occurred with the Cell PPU and Xenon.
 

Respawn

Banned
The new controller having a built in Move light makes me think that the dual camera will be packed in.
I have a feeling based off the Dev kit pics it will be built into the console. Doesn't bother me one bit. There will be the motion gaming audience and us who like our platinum type games and glorious fps's plus the RPG's thrown in for the love.
 

StevieP

Banned
I'm getting a little tired of these "sources" posts myself. Can't help but think 90% of it is utter bullshit being made up, or speculation that any of us could come up with.

Unless you're going to be specific, just shut up.

The issue is, as brain_stew said, that often the people feeding the information in the first place sometimes misinterpret it. Sometimes it's quite clear, sometimes it isn't as clear. Especially in regards to launch documentation.
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
The new controller having a built in Move light makes me think that the dual camera will be packed in.

I don't believe that the light bar has to do with Move. Regardless, including a $0.50 light bar does not mean a $50 camera is built in.
 
I have a feeling based off the Dev kit pics it will be built into the console. Doesn't bother me one bit. There will be the motion gaming audience and us who like our platinum type games and glorious fps's plus the RPG's thrown in for the love.

It won't be built into the system.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
My guess is that Microsoft will only require always-on internet connection in markets where broadband internet has a large penetration like in the US and certain European markets/Japan. MS will probably just remove features that require always-on internet like the Xbox Siri in order to sell it in other markets.

It's going to be all or nothing.
 
Top Bottom