For sure. I love "there is a resolution thing going on". Makes it sound so casual, like a groovy new trend.
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Albert Penello downplays XBO/PS4 difference in Tomb Raider; "we just shipped"
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For sure. I love "there is a resolution thing going on". Makes it sound so casual, like a groovy new trend.
Just some dev.
krypt0nian
Banned
Especially if the PS4 keeps outselling it WW and becomes lead platform for most games.
The dev that shorts the PS4 becomes the dev to avoid.
Welp. Mic drop.
funkystudent
Member
So is albert going to go on the PR defensive every time a game is worse on XB1?
Not that I am aware of.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
The pay must be good to spin words like this, over and over again.
lead platform is probably going to be PC since its so easy to port from PC to the HD twins.
Cheaper price of the console (as I said before). More money to spend on games from that.
geordiemp
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You are American of course, and is it the only market that exists ?
Warm Machine
Member
I saw Titanfall at Pax Prime and I thought it was the nicest looking game on the show floor. It suits my visual tastes though. Sitting right beside Battlefield 4 the difference was obvious, a futuristic industrial building is always more visually interesting than an office block.
la flama blanca
Banned
This is the point. Penello has convinced his employer that his services are required. He's making bank for this shit.
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
Correct.
Not global, especially considering Xbox One isn't in as many territories as the PS4.
la flama blanca
Banned
Most of those territories would look horribly grim in terms of sales for the Xbone
It is the market that is easiest to judge, due to the lack of One's in areas where the PS4 launched.
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
They were talking about NPD numbers. That's what Bruce asked of him.
dragonelite
Member
That would be annoying.
Yep. He blatantly lied.
He said "I don't work in PR."
There are no excuses. "What is he supposed to do, he was asked a question?" has been brought up many time in this thread. He came to NeoGAF and posted this same kind of misinformation with appeals to authority without anyone asking for it. He sought to muddy the waters pre-launch.
He asked for those calling him out to apologize after launch proves that his statements were correct. Now he's just moving the goalposts and retreating from accountability on this forum. He straight-up lied to this community for a good 6 weeks leading into launch. His job which some actually bought wasn't part of his duties, was to change the message for Xbox.
He came here with a purpose and the things he has said have turned out to be blatant lies. He can't hide behind shifting job titles and bullshit appeals to authority. He should be held accountable for the statements he makes on here and elsewhere that were made to sell a product.
uncledonnie
Banned
Damn man, with those standards I don't know how you can tolerate playing on anything but a high-powered PC.
krypt0nian
Banned
We can retire that now. The rest of the regions are not xbox territories and would amount to a small pile of nothing.
mangochutney
Member
Did Albert ever give that apology he promised, or does he not believe he was wrong and ergo doesn't need to issue it?
Those other territories will do jack shit for the xbone much less lowering the gap between it and the PS4
Of course they would; they always have. I am strictly talking about NPD numbers for December here. It shows an advantage in sales for Xbox One in the 3 game titles I always look at; COD, Battlefield and Madden in the US.
We'll see. So far that's how things have been with the majority of multiplats (1080p and the same frame rate on both consoles).
I think sports games are a safe bet for remaining 1080p/60 FPS on both consoles but I like sports games. I know that many here on GAF don't though.
KoopaTheCasual
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Ikr? Seems like a waste of his time. He should just go the PS3 route and stay silent. People know it's going to keep happening. It's better to stop drawing attention to it.
Yeah, you are right about that.
So you're just cherry picking the numbers you use. If you look global, PS4 games sold a lot more. You admitted that when Xbone launches in those countries it won't change much. So why not count global numbers?
Some individual third party games were higher on Xbone (shooters) and some were higher on PS4 (sports, action adventure, racing)
Madden sold better on PS4 than Xbone according to the NPD leaks. (LTD, not December)
Metalingus5150
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People in here saying that casuals don't care.
PS4 has the price advantage plus the continuing positive word of mouth.
PS4 has the price advantage plus the continuing positive word of mouth.
I read this in a thread here on gaf yesterday.
Timothy lottes FXAA creator,
"The real reason to get excited about a PS4 is what Sony as a company does with the OS and system libraries as a platform, and what this enables 1st party studios to do, when they make PS4-only games. If PS4 has a real-time OS, with a libGCM style low level access to the GPU, then the PS4 1st party games will be years ahead of the PC simply because it opens up what is possible on the GPU. Note this won't happen right away on launch, but once developers tool up for the platform, this will be the case. As a PC guy who knows hardware to the metal, I spend most of my days in frustration knowing damn well what I could do with the hardware, but what I cannot do because Microsoft and IHVs wont provide low-level GPU access in PC APIs. One simple example, drawcalls on PC have easily 10x to 100x the overhead of a console with a libGCM style API...."
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510076
Agreed on both statements.
krypt0nian
Banned
They need to go balls deep in the Americas. It is really the best and only plan right now to gain marketshare. Remind people that they are 360 people.
Source that Sony will not upclock post launch is that it makes zero sense and is frankly a laughable suggestion. They would have worse yields and no developer could take advantage of the extra speed because they have already sold 4.2 million PS4s which have to run the games as well. MS was able to upclock because they hadn't begun full production.
The memory thing, I already said PS4 solution will always be better. But making optimal use of esram is not straight forward and given more time developers will figure out how to do it better.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
You can't be serious BGamer. That's ridiculous. How would that have any bearing on which system Skyrim sells better on when the install base is reaching the same?
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
Sorry man, but this isn't going to happen.
He pretended and allowed others to believe that he wasn't "on-script" and that he was coming here in good faith.
He volunteered the information he did with the clear purpose of changing the conversation and to perform as a PR agent for Microsoft.
Albert pretended to be someone like Jaffe that posts here regardless of needing to sell a game or not. He wasn't. He was only here to sell the Xbox One.
turnbuckle
Member
It would really benefit him if he didn't say anything at all. Or if he just stopped at saying inoffensive, inarguable things like "Both systems will have games that look good" or whatever.
By throwing in weak explanations and writing off real differences in performance/visuals where the XB1 is lacking it just takes away any validity to the rest of what he's saying.
By throwing in weak explanations and writing off real differences in performance/visuals where the XB1 is lacking it just takes away any validity to the rest of what he's saying.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Well, time for another round of "here's why the ps4 is more powerful than the xbone and why Penello is a liar".
I don't get Microsoft's PR, I don't.
I don't get Microsoft's PR, I don't.
Sports and eventually CoD when they figure things out. More ambitious AAA games whether open world or trying to push graphics it will be interesting to see.
uncledonnie
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I don't know as much about the word of mouth as I think it's positive for XB1 as well, but absolutely the price is and will continue to be the biggest issue with casuals. Until MS gets to price parity they should continue to be worried about falling behind even in the US.
GameSeeker
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My favorite post of the thread. Thanks Matt!
Albert had a golden opportunity to present Microsoft's vision and direction here on GAF. However he squandered all his credibility with his postings.
midasmulligan
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would not bang
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
So why has the Xbox one got a higher attach rate than the PS4?
SuperSonic1305
Member
I know more than you. Here are two straight blatant lies. Also, we just shipped and this 900p game is the bestest ever. Have you seen Titanfall?
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
They invested the $100-200 they saved in 2005/6 and grew it to thousands. This is why the attach rate remained higher throughout the gen. Simple economics--do you even trade, bro?
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