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Albert Penello downplays XBO/PS4 difference in Tomb Raider; "we just shipped"
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The 360 was the majority console for the UK last gen, so not always.
How is using NPD numbers cherrypicking? Where is the global count that you speak of for COD, BF, and Madden?
... I think it's a pretty ok answer to be honest. He somewhat acknowledges that the PS4 is superior on the hardware side (which should be obvious for everyone who can read and interpret hardware specs) but at the same time points out that the Xbox One is pretty capable as well and features Ryse, which is (at least from my "old-gen" perspective) the prettiest game around (for now that is).
What do people expect? Him saying the Xbox One is crap and that everyone should sell it/burn it? Yes, the PS4 has better hardware. We know it, Microsoft know it.
What do people expect? Him saying the Xbox One is crap and that everyone should sell it/burn it? Yes, the PS4 has better hardware. We know it, Microsoft know it.
Shiiiit. I'd take a 900p/60fps Forza if it meant eliminating the damn jaggies everywhere.
This is where I stand. I wouldn't go as far as to question his morals, but I don't buy the whole, "he was just doing his job" argument," when he was openly denying and disagreeing with those making that statement at the time. That was his out. He wouldn't even agree to putting his statements through that lens. He wanted to be "just one of the guys."
BruceLeeRoy
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I'm only going off leaked footage but BF4 looks like a next gen game and the alpha footage of Titanfall looked comfortably like something from last gen. I have to admit though a big reason I don't like it may have to do with the borderland aesthetic (which I really dislike) and the HUD.
Yeah, I should have differentiated the UK as I knew this.
TheChewyWaffles
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Fixed
Aizu_Itsuko
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Sure, "behind the scenes" XBO is running every game at 4k/120fps with Avatar like visuals. it's just that MS feels so bad for Sony and Nintendo that they mandate all games to underperform to cheer them up a little bit.
PR guys are the best.
Come on, MS, sales are great in the US/UK so far, third party support is good and you did a 180 on the whole anti-consumer thing. Yes, XBO games look and run worse compared to PS4 games and Sony is likely going to have the edge sales-wise worldwide for multiple reasons, but it's not the end of the world. Focus on the positives. Comments like this one just make you look worse.
Now, let's see if the GIFs in this thread deliver.
PR guys are the best.
Come on, MS, sales are great in the US/UK so far, third party support is good and you did a 180 on the whole anti-consumer thing. Yes, XBO games look and run worse compared to PS4 games and Sony is likely going to have the edge sales-wise worldwide for multiple reasons, but it's not the end of the world. Focus on the positives. Comments like this one just make you look worse.
Now, let's see if the GIFs in this thread deliver.
Because even on sites like this, there are plenty of perfectly credulous platform fans that are more than ready to spread the talking points and say things like, "what else is he going to say?" in defense of misguided PR like this.
Ignorance is bliss. We get numbers sporadically for EU and other countries. Even in the UK (Microsoft territory) those games sold a lot better on the PS4, the rest of the EU things were even more skewed. Try not to resort to America = World, just because we don't have a global specific count the way you do with NPD. We have enough data that it's more than just an educated guess.
Just to put some perspective in the numbers we have. (NPD LTD)
Call of Duty: Ghosts Xbone >800k <850K
Call of Duty: Ghosts PS4 >800K
Battlefield 4 Xbone >550K <650K
Battlefield 4 PS4 >550K <600K
Madden NFL 25 PS4 >350K <400K
Madden NFL 25 Xbone >350K <400K
Ghost, BF4 higher on Xbone
Madden higher on PS4
Unfortunately we don't have the data more granular than that.
krypt0nian
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You guys should listen to the podcast. There's a great analogy there by Albert.
Did he have a head injury?
I had the alpha. Titanfall looks good, not last gen but isn't going to blow your mind except in the area of awesomeness - truthfully it appears they prioritized fluidity and motion/mechanics over everything else and leaned heavily on the art department to overcome engine limitations/resolution limitations on visual.
Still alpha so hard to say. My wife said it looks better than BF4 to her. Different things though really in terms of scope and function.
Right fucking here. This.
Don Mattrick has transferred his disease onto Penello, which causes him to uncontrollably make foot-in-mouth statements.
reynal1287
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i'm sure a lot of xbox fans do care about specs. Albert downplaying this is absurd and shouldn't comment about it.
He's trying to spin it in Microsoft's favor and he doesn't know how because Xbox One cannot overcome the significant power advantage PS4 has. That's why MS employees need to just shut the hell up about the power difference.
You guys should listen to the podcast. There's a great analogy there by Albert.
That's not a great analogy at all.
BruceLeeRoy
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Playing it will of course be the only way to properly judge but BF4 is quite jaw dropping at times.
UK is now MS territory because of a slight advantage last gen? It has always been Sonyland, and will be back that way again, I would think. I never resorted to US = world, I showed US numbers that favor One sales of the big selling games(COD, BF, Madden).
You guys should listen to the podcast. There's a great analogy there by Albert.
Is he really claiming there are more titles available on the Xbox One than the PS4?
Spottiettiedop
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Listened to the podcast, nothing wrong with what Penello or Aaron said.
krypt0nian
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As many from the UK have noted, it's always been "cheaper console land"
Are head injuries contagious?
BruceLeeRoy
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You guys should listen to the podcast. There's a great analogy there by Albert.
This is made up right? This has to be
I think everyone cares about specs, it's just in how you respond when you care about one platform more than another.
Metalmurphy
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You guys should listen to the podcast. There's a great analogy there by Albert.
edit: by great I mean bwahaha
Glad you edited cause even that analogy is full of lies.
nothing better than a good laugh in the office on a friday.. thanks Albert!
This GIf literally caused me pain as one of my teeth had been removed recently. I want to laugh so hard.
There is no doubt, to me at least, that BF4 is a more jaw dropping game. The alpha for Titanfall showed me one area that BF4 couldn't touch it; fun, smooth gameplay. This is coming from a huge BF fan.
The Ron Paul Happening bunker got me, but the unexpected DS4 Banderas flat out killed me.
Aizu_Itsuko
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Someone said ElTorro should add a "Secret sauuuuce!" at the end and I agree. "Wizard's jiiiizz!" would work as wellThis also seems appropriate...
Haha, it's totally legit. 57:30: http://www.gamertagradio.com/new/20...aron-greenberg-albert-penello-about-xbox-one/
Hoo boy
In the case of this, it's probably due to the exclusives. Again though -- these consoles are brand new and the people buying both right now are mainly really big gamers.
And what you said is only true for the U.S. correct?
I don't have global sales numbers for software (that are accurate or are allowed on GAF anyway). I wouldn't think Madden would sell well globally, though. Was talking more about focusing on NPD's ignores the rest of the world, which is where Sony has sold a significant amount of PS4's where presumably the most popular games in the US would have sold well there as well (except for Madden).
Are there reliable software sales numbers for UK, Germany, France, Spain, etc?
If so, he's going to be very busy. He should probably be thinking up his next set of spin for when Watch Dogs hits.
BruceLeeRoy
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Can't wait to play it as BF4 is melting my mind with its awesomeness
This guy is starting to make me think he needs a PET scan
You guys should listen to the podcast. There's a great analogy there by Albert.
edit: by great I mean bwahaha
What in the world...
I'm trying to just understand what he's trying to say. Wow.
QuicheFontaine
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You guys should listen to the podcast. There's a great analogy there by Albert.
edit: by great I mean bwahaha
Lol, it kinda sounds like he's saying he'd only pick the Xbone because he works there.
BrokenEchelon
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Paid Liar.
SuicidalSteve
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sorry to derail but who is matt? A developer?
DoYouEvenLift?
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Here's a free PR reply that is honest, downplays the issue, and doesn't insult a person's intelligence:
"Mr. Penello, how do you respond do the technical differences between the versions of the new Tomb Raider game."
- Well, I think you've got a situation here where people are drawing conclusions that aren't necessarily supported by the evidence. In this particular scenario it looks like the PS4 version of the game runs at a higher framerate than the XB1 version of the game. As to why that is, I couldn't tell you; you'd have to ask the developers who are familiar with the development of the game. I don't think it's a reasonable conclusion to draw that multi-platform titles are always going to perform better on the PS4 because of one game.
That being said, Sony has put together a hell of a machine. So have we. The machines are very close in technical capabilities, certainly close enough that you'll never see a situation where a specific game "can't" be done on one console or the other. What differentiates us is our focus on the operating system and the input, right? The XB1 OS is miles and miles ahead of the PS4 OS. That's my opinion. On top of that, we've got an amazing interface with the Kinect that simply can't be done on the PS4. That's where we think the XB1 is going to truly set itself apart this generation.
"Mr. Penello, how do you respond do the technical differences between the versions of the new Tomb Raider game."
- Well, I think you've got a situation here where people are drawing conclusions that aren't necessarily supported by the evidence. In this particular scenario it looks like the PS4 version of the game runs at a higher framerate than the XB1 version of the game. As to why that is, I couldn't tell you; you'd have to ask the developers who are familiar with the development of the game. I don't think it's a reasonable conclusion to draw that multi-platform titles are always going to perform better on the PS4 because of one game.
That being said, Sony has put together a hell of a machine. So have we. The machines are very close in technical capabilities, certainly close enough that you'll never see a situation where a specific game "can't" be done on one console or the other. What differentiates us is our focus on the operating system and the input, right? The XB1 OS is miles and miles ahead of the PS4 OS. That's my opinion. On top of that, we've got an amazing interface with the Kinect that simply can't be done on the PS4. That's where we think the XB1 is going to truly set itself apart this generation.
Just bringing it back up hurts; I was so engrossed in it for that short time.
Welcome back!
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