She already turned me down saying that she doesn't want a relationship until she has her career going, but I'm still helping her and being really good friends.
You is good. Good luck!
Seems like you are peparing for when her's career is going!
She already turned me down saying that she doesn't want a relationship until she has her career going, but I'm still helping her and being really good friends.
Why are you and other trying to rewrite the definition of friend zone?
Everyone knows what's implied when you say friend zone, even the OP. What you're doing is talking about being friends, there's literally no reason to bring the friend zone into that conversation.
In popular culture, the friend zone is a situation in which one member of a friendship wishes to enter into a romantic or sexual relationship, while the other does not. It is generally considered to be an undesirable or dreaded situation by the rejected person. The sense of zone is one of being stuck in an unwanted and distant relationship. The rejected person is said to have been put "in" the object of their affection's "friend zone", and this can be verbified, as in the sentence "So, she's friendzoned you."
The concept of the friend zone has been criticized as misogynistic, because of a belief that the concept implies an expectation that women should have sex with men whom they have no interest in, simply because they were nice to them. This is closely associated with so-called "nice guy syndrome".
You hold hands with each other, say "I love you", help her with her career and tell her you're fine with her looking for a boyfriend, despite already being turned down by her?
The Dark Souls of dating.
Pages 8,9 and 10 are brutal LMFAO. But seriously the friend zone doesn't exist and she doesn't owe you shit for helping her out OP.
Never listen to Gaf
I already knew the answer when I read the title of the thread. Anyone who asks if they're in the friend zone already has their answer.
If you're confident, dating shouldn't be this "grey area" thing. The friend zone isn't even real. If you have to ask then you've already screwed up.
Women want direct honesty. So ask them out. Don't dance around the issue. If she says "let's be friends" or "I'm just busy right now" then she's letting you down gently but actually has no interest in you.
If you're thinking in terms of 'friend zone' and that whole philosophy of life, you're doing it wrong.
Damn paradoxes.
lol I think it will be worse if her career really really takes off and OP doesn't feel like she's appreciative of his investment.
OP is probably among the last people on the planet she'd fuck
As a guy, If you find a woman unattractive, she couldn't "be nice" or "be a good friend" her way into your pants. Because attraction isn't a transaction and it's not even really very rational.
I'm just curious why some seem to think that it's any different from the woman's perspective.
Why are we reciting Sonic lyrics in this thread?I won't change my mind, because I don't have to. Because I'm an American. I won't change my mind on anything, regardless of the facts that are set out before me. I'm dug in, and I'll never change.
Still don't know but a bit distasteful to bring up in this thread no?Whatever happened with your maybe baby situation?
OP is probably among the last people on the planet she'd fuck
As a guy, If you find a woman unattractive, she couldn't "be nice" or "be a good friend" her way into your pants. Because attraction isn't a transaction and it's not even really very rational.
I'm just curious why some seem to think that it's any different from the woman's perspective.
I already knew the answer when I read the title of the thread. Anyone who asks if they're in the friend zone already has their answer.
If you're confident, dating shouldn't be this "grey area" thing. The friend zone isn't even real. If you have to ask then you've already screwed up.
Women want direct honesty. So ask them out. Don't dance around the issue. If she says "let's be friends" or "I'm just busy right now" then she's letting you down gently but actually has no interest in you.
Still don't know but a bit distasteful to bring up in this thread no?
I think the test is if the female became 100% unavailable (gets married, becomes a lesbian, etc) and the male would still continue a friendship, then there's real validity to the friendship. I suspect most of those 'male friends' would disappear when someone else enters the picture.
I'm not saying it's wrong for two people to be friends after a relationship, a hook-up, or one's attempt to be with the other. It's unhealthy if one party continues to carry feelings for someone and is only in the 'friendship' because of that.
It's weird to continue friendships with people who actively want you. It's also a huge conflict of interest if you ever get married or start dating someone and the friendship continues. I don't think my girlfriend would be happy with me continuing friendships with girls who want me, and to me that's just common sense.
written by a woman who's verdict is: Men are binary, testosterone-driven cunts. Nice try though. Feminism at its finest.
As for the OP: Sorry bro, you're in the friend zone. Move along
I already knew the answer when I read the title of the thread. Anyone who asks if they're in the friend zone already has their answer.
If you're confident, dating shouldn't be this "grey area" thing. The friend zone isn't even real. If you have to ask then you've already screwed up.
Women want direct honesty. So ask them out. Don't dance around the issue. If she says "let's be friends" or "I'm just busy right now" then she's letting you down gently but actually has no interest in you.
You can escape friendzones, I've done it. However there needs to have been some sexual contact, and something to reignite that connection.
It won't just happen that one day you'll be sat there holding hands telling each other I love you and out of nowhere start fucking.
You're going to have to start dropping major hints about sex, walk around with a hardon I dunno - but you have to show this woman you are a sexually attractive person and not just someone to hold hands with.
If you get the sex DO NOT mention relationships. You'll scare her away. Just fuck and then go back to hand holding until you fuck again.
I already knew the answer when I read the title of the thread. Anyone who asks if they're in the friend zone already has their answer.
If you're confident, dating shouldn't be this "grey area" thing. The friend zone isn't even real. If you have to ask then you've already screwed up.
Women want direct honesty. So ask them out. Don't dance around the issue. If she says "let's be friends" or "I'm just busy right now" then she's letting you down gently but actually has no interest in you.
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Women want direct honesty. So ask them out. Don't dance around the issue. If she says "let's be friends" or "I'm just busy right now" then she's letting you down gently but actually has no interest in you.
^ Wrap it up. We're done.
You can escape friendzones, I've done it. However there needs to have been some sexual contact, and something to reignite that connection.
It won't just happen that one day you'll be sat there holding hands telling each other I love you and out of nowhere start fucking.
You're going to have to start dropping major hints about sex, walk around with a hardon I dunno - but you have to show this woman you are a sexually attractive person and not just someone to hold hands with.
If you get the sex DO NOT mention relationships. You'll scare her away. Just fuck and then go back to hand holding until you fuck again.
You can escape friendzones, I've done it. However there needs to have been some sexual contact, and something to reignite that connection.
It won't just happen that one day you'll be sat there holding hands telling each other I love you and out of nowhere start fucking.
You're going to have to start dropping major hints about sex, walk around with a hardon I dunno - but you have to show this woman you are a sexually attractive person and not just someone to hold hands with.
If you get the sex DO NOT mention relationships. You'll scare her away. Just fuck and then go back to hand holding until you fuck again.
You can escape friendzones, I've done it. However there needs to have been some sexual contact, and something to reignite that connection.
It won't just happen that one day you'll be sat there holding hands telling each other I love you and out of nowhere start fucking.
You're going to have to start dropping major hints about sex, walk around with a hardon I dunno - but you have to show this woman you are a sexually attractive person and not just someone to hold hands with.
If you get the sex DO NOT mention relationships. You'll scare her away. Just fuck and then go back to hand holding until you fuck again.
You can escape friendzones, I've done it. However there needs to have been some sexual contact, and something to reignite that connection.
It won't just happen that one day you'll be sat there holding hands telling each other I love you and out of nowhere start fucking.
You're going to have to start dropping major hints about sex, walk around with a hardon I dunno - but you have to show this woman you are a sexually attractive person and not just someone to hold hands with.
If you get the sex DO NOT mention relationships. You'll scare her away. Just fuck and then go back to hand holding until you fuck again.
Is that such a strange concept to you? I have a close female friend whom I've known for years, and we say it to each other, too.You say "I love you" to each other?
Is that such a strange concept to you? I have a close female friend whom I've known for years, and we say it to each other, too.
Almost like she's literally talking about people who talk about friend zoning and not all men...
But lol at the bolded
What is so lol about the bolded when it's not wrong? She condones literally all men, not only those who feel like they're friend zoned.
I agree that some (!) men are binary when it comes to women, but not all. And those are the - according to internet terms - so called beta cucks. Still doesn't make it right to generalize. I'm calling all women money hungry leeches either, even though some clearly are.
The argument that men can also "friend zone" women has been put out there, but it ignores one universal truth: women don't see men as binary options like fuckable or friend. Women have complex, nuanced, confusing, fulfilling, tumultuous relationships with women, men and non-gender-binary persons. Naturally, men can as well, but the type of man who claims he's been put in the "friend zone" is explicitly telling you he is categorizing your worth on whether or not he wants to stick his dick in you.
"Friend zoned" men need to grow the fuck up and handle rejection like adults. Because the "friend zone" isn't actually a thing.
We'd started saying it a few months into our relationship.It's different with someone you've probably been through a lot with. 3 months really isn't very long.
Misread it then, my bad.This is the exact fucking opposite of literally all men, she's literally talking about the type of men who throw around friend-zone.
So unless you think all men throw around friend zone she's literally not condemning all men.
I mean it's OK to just be friends too. Sheesh some people saying just ditch her. It's like the sole reason to have a woman around is for you people to fuck or something.
Using retarded, beta cuck, etc. I think 4chan/reddit is calling you.Misread it then, my bad.
We can start debating feminism if you like. There's plenty proof that those entitled to it are actually retarded. Just throwing a bone here: Google Hugh Mungus. But keep laughing at it :>
Misread it then, my bad.
We can start debating feminism if you like. There's plenty proof that those entitled to it are actually retarded. Just throwing a bone here: Google Hugh Mungus. But keep laughing at it :>