People should definitely watch the Treehouse stream before writing it off or comparing it to other games like Wii Boxing due to superficial comparisons. The game has it's own sets of fighting mechanics that seem to add some good depth to the gameplay. I'd say the core gameplay should be enough to sell people on a full priced game with enough characters, fists, arenas, and modes.
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ARMS - Nintendo Switch (Motion [optional] controlled boxing, Nintendo, Spring 2017)
- Thread starter maxcriden
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How are the eff are all of yall assigning monetary value to a game from a 3 minute fight?
That's like watching BotW complete a Shrine and concluding "looks like a nice little $15 eshop thing"
exact same thing happened with Splatoon too. "Cute Sunshine paint mechanic. Eww Gyro. 20 bucks max. Where's Retro??"
I mean sure, you do you and all.
...or you could just wait a month or two.
That's like watching BotW complete a Shrine and concluding "looks like a nice little $15 eshop thing"
exact same thing happened with Splatoon too. "Cute Sunshine paint mechanic. Eww Gyro. 20 bucks max. Where's Retro??"
I mean sure, you do you and all.
...or you could just wait a month or two.
WeirdoStalkerJr
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Will my Little Mac amiibo work for this game you think?
The Treehouse stream has sold me on this game, so now I'm just hoping the game has enough content to justify the price point. A single player mode and solid online features should be enough.
I'd love to see this game get a update roadmap like Splatoon with new characters, stages, modes, and gloves throughout the year.
I'd love to see this game get a update roadmap like Splatoon with new characters, stages, modes, and gloves throughout the year.
That's what I'm predicting. Light launch with regular updates. If so, I might get it around christmas.
No motion controls required, awesome. Depending on what modes, number of characters, post launch support etc this gets, I might be tempted to grab this if I go through with my purchase of a switch.
Easy Allies seemed hyped about it too, so I think this could do good things as long as it has the necessary depth.
edit - Splatoon style post launch like the guys above sai. More characters and levels over the course of 12 months, make this the next Splatoon!
Easy Allies seemed hyped about it too, so I think this could do good things as long as it has the necessary depth.
edit - Splatoon style post launch like the guys above sai. More characters and levels over the course of 12 months, make this the next Splatoon!
Insane Metal
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efyu_lemonardo
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I like this game, but Splatoon's core mechanics of "shoot paint to cover as much ground + swim through that paint to cover more ground" immediately made sense to me as something with the potential for very deep gameplay.
Whereas this seems to be missing a key component to make it great.
Then again I was never a huge fan of fighting games.
I thought it looked pretty moronic, but yeah... opinions
Watch the treehouse stream of it.
megabytecr
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Looks great and fun!
Wonder about the HD Rumble
Wonder about the HD Rumble
superNESjoe
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Love fighting games, looks like a fun spin on that with enough depth to sustain me but still casual. I'm actually pretty excited about this one.
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Learning that motion controls are not required has me much more interested in this game.
Geminosity
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I rather like my fighting games and often spend time analysing what makes them good versus shallow so once I noticed some of the core elements I was already pretty sold :3
My only concern is how potent dodging may or may not be: I'm sure they've been testing the heck out of it though so they've likely done something to avoid two more experienced players not being able to hit one another for the majority of the match
Looks like a unique and interesting take on 3D fighting games, and motion being optional is great, wasn't sure about whether this would get traditional controls or not.
Not enough to make me want to buy a switch when it comes out but it looks like the kind of game where if they kept updating it with content you could get a lot out of it.
Bit worrying that they said they were only working on getting online play into it though, that should bee a lock really.
Not enough to make me want to buy a switch when it comes out but it looks like the kind of game where if they kept updating it with content you could get a lot out of it.
Bit worrying that they said they were only working on getting online play into it though, that should bee a lock really.
megabytecr
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I am trying to find it but they started with Splatoon 2
Aztechnology
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I just don't see the $60 in this title. It looks far too limited. I see this being impulse grabs at $20-30. But I guess as there will be a game drought for the console people will snap up anything they can.
wild wild rice
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Splatoon felt the same way initially, as well.
efyu_lemonardo
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I rather like my fighting games and often spend time analysing what makes them good versus shallow so once I noticed some of the core elements I was already pretty sold :3
My only concern is how potent dodging may or may not be: I'm sure they've been testing the heck out of it though so they've likely done something to avoid two more experienced players not being able to hit one another for the majority of the match
Weren't you concerned with what appear to be limited movement options/precision?
For a fighter, the combat looks rather top-heavy.
Jack The Nipper
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I wasn't sure if it would be good with or without motion but happy to see how the option is without it.
Dark Cloud
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You know Nintendo. They never unveil everything. There should be more to this game.
This is how I viewed Overwatch. I'm not going to spend $60 on a game where all I do is shoot people over and over online.
Geminosity
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Not really, infact during the treehouse stream the guy playing ribbon girl actually did some of the crazy drop-in stuff I like to do in guilty gear against testament (some of his attacks have a safe spot between his scythe and his body so if you're good you can jump and land right between them for some close up shenanigans :3 )
So, to me the movement doesn't seem limited in all honesty: You can move in all directions, dash, jump and whatnot. I may have to go back in and rewatch to see if there's airdashing
While I understand concerns over the accuracy of motion control, I can't say for sure without hands-on obviously, but even the cruddy old wiimote didn't give me any trouble on wii-boxing (the nunchuck however was awful) and the joycons are likely considerably better. Keep in mind I say this as someone who mostly employed a 'counter-punch' playstyle so things like delays and accuracies would've seriously screwed my ability to evade and punish my friends. Wii-boxing wasn't super deep but there was at least enough of a kernel of something in there to enable some limited takes on real boxing styles like swarming, counter-punching, etc.
What do you mean by top-heavy out of curiosity?
GiantBreadbug
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Very excited about this game. Really wish it was ready for launch tho
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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and skins ala overwatch
That is a nice to have.
Geminosity
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Arms E3 announcement: loot-boxes
But where it seems lacking in typical high low mixups in traditional fighters, it mighty make up for in aerial mobility that something like Smash comes to mind as having. Other games don't give that much aerial movement. Then the bouncing around on the stage edges...
I'm in the wait and see camp.
KilgoreTrout
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Sweet. I was looking for it as well. The Youtube video starts at Splatoon 2. Starts around 41:00 for those interested.
Well, yeah, the potential was there. And we can say that now.
But dang, I remember Splatoon intial reactions being negative. Even more negative than ARMs. People wanted that huge nintendo game to salvage the wii u but it didn't look it at first. But my memory may be tainted.
(I was in the wait and see camp back then too >_>)
whyamihere
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Same.
someone better may know but Kosuke Yabuki was presenting it (Mario Kart Director)
maybe mario kart team...?
Geminosity
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I was in the "this looks amazing" camp so let's hope my similar vibe for arms is equally prophetic though I don't think it'll be quite as 'mould breaking' as Splatoon, simply more an enjoyable title with some legs hopefully
boiled goose
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Nah Splatoon reactions where extremely positive.
This being just a 1 v 1 fighter fundamentally limits it.
Have you seen Snipperclips: Cut It Out!? You're going to love it too.
efyu_lemonardo
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Is there a thread?
Really enjoyed playing Arms today. It was definitely way more responsive and fun than Wii Boxing. Well paced, nice characters (the initial lot we got to pick from anyway) and quite tactful. You won't win much by spamming punches. I did however find it tricky to move left and right whilst in all the action. Throwing punches and even curving them was spot on though.
Best played with Joy-Con controllers separated, using motion for blocks and punches.
Best played with Joy-Con controllers separated, using motion for blocks and punches.
I was in the "this looks amazing" camp so let's hope my similar vibe for arms is equally prophetic though I don't think it'll be quite as 'mould breaking' as Splatoon, simply more an enjoyable title with some legs hopefully
Yea, I'm optimistic. Quality wise.
Sales wise I have no clue and won't even try. But if it has legs, ARMs will get an interesting meme picture...
So, has anyone played it with traditional controls? Or found impressions
My assumption.
L + R do the left and right punches. The left and right analog sticks cause the punches to swerve depending on the stick.
but....then how do you move? if the sticks are occupied.
Maybe X+Y are the punches. Then L+R do the breaking left or right. And the control sticks move. B jumps. A Blocks, etc.
efyu_lemonardo
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Do you feel there's sufficient replay value to the basic formula?
OricWindstar
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Movement is what I'm most concerned about. Wonder if it's something that clicks after you play it for a bit.
Maybe in the sequel....simply more an enjoyable title with some legs hopefully
SinCityAssassin
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Have they said who was developing this? People have been saying it was sort of a "Platinum-esque W101 style"
Apparently motion is optional so if it doesnt gel with you, you can go traditional.
Apparently motion is optional so if it doesnt gel with you, you can go traditional.
I had 8 turns. It was fun each time (and quite a workout for your arms haha), but i think the replay value will come in when trying the different characters and their unique weapons. You can mix two different weapons / gloves too, so one different one in each hand. Think Overwatch with its different characters and own abilities. I don't think it should be a full priced title though...