Actually there is data that immigration was the most coherent reason of voting leave. Ironically especially in parts of the country with small immigration
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...migration-fears-were-paradoxical-but-decisive
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Actually there is data that immigration was the most coherent reason of voting leave. Ironically especially in parts of the country with small immigration
It's a bizarre one, because most people cite EU migration as the biggest issue, when the numbers of EU migrants are lower than non-EU.
What? I was pointing out how ironic your post was.
Daffy Duck
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Maybe we should round up everyone who voted to leave and get them to foot the bill.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
That Farage gif will never be not funny
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It's not really surprising that those most against immigration are from places least affected from it. You hear it a lot in Cornwall, people move down here because they say their home towns are unrecognisable and that feeds into the locals fears who don't want their way of life to also be changed. Not saying it's right, it's just not that much of a surprise.
excelsiorlef
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Leave:
Remain
Like come on.
Remain
Like come on.
KonradLaw
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yes and nothing will increase their numbers like UK doing absolutely terrible with leaving EU.
Leave:
Remain
Like come on.
It's funny how people still argue this isn't real so they can feel better about their Leave vote.
Non of this changes the fact that UK had the best deal in EU. A lot of opt-outs. Then Cameron wanted an even better deal. And EU compromised on that too and gave Cameron an even better deal. Then UK decided to piss off.
Who controlled non-EU migration 100%......UK Government was it.
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I guarantee you, people against migration probably hate non-EU migrants and opted leave.
capitalCORN
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"Mom, dad, I'm leaving home." "By that I mean I'm going to move into the basement. So, when's dinner?"
A leave tax for leavers.
KonradLaw
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The funniest thing is that leaving EU will do absolutely nothing to stop migrants from Africa and Middle East trying to get into UK. At most it will stop white eastern europeans
Heck, if France gets pissed enough they might not even bother trying to stop people at places like Calais and decide it's all UK's problem. Plus there's always a possibility that Brexit will change rules of migration so harshly, that a lot of eastern europeans will go back home or move to other EU countries and if enough of them do, UK will be in huge troubles.
They probably hate most minority groups.
Most people I've conversed with had a huge problem with uncontrolled migration, which is where the, close our borders, thing comes from, and cite that (Romanians, Lithuanians, Poles etc etc) as a big issue.
Any Questions
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Although I said remain, this isn't much of a worry. We pay approx £13billion. With cash back we gave approx £9 billion.
So this £50 billion (after cash back) is only 5 years of payments. No drama.
And we get nothing back for the privilage
Any Questions
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Agreed. However we get this illusion called freedom
Daffy Duck
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Indeed.
I think I shall send a tweet to 10 Downing Street with my idea, I expect to be head of Brexit negotiations by the end of the day.
PJV3
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You get to make trade deals with other countries, imagine being able to buy things from that America place.
May takes a hardline, the EU takes a hardline in response. Turns out that 27 countries working together can come to a much stronger negotiating position than one on their own. Who knew?!
This isn't going to end well. There's even less chance of it ending well once May has a hundred more hardline Brexiteers in Parliament, ready to strike her down should she even think about compromising.
This isn't going to end well. There's even less chance of it ending well once May has a hundred more hardline Brexiteers in Parliament, ready to strike her down should she even think about compromising.
After the last meeting, EU negotiators honestly believe that the probability of no deal is higher than that of reaching a deal. It's not just tactics.
jimbobsmells
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If you wanted to be part of it then maybe start with trying for the opposition front bench - the bar is so low you could just walk in for knowing 10,000 into 300k won't go?
Yeah but it's far easier for them to be outraged when you see someone who looks non white rather than just sounds different who they would have to at cross close paths with. I heard some awful chat in the coffee shop before Brexit people thinking muslims are going to breed out UK people. It's so sad to hear.
Leave:
Remain
Like come on.
And just a bit of background to this; http://www.britishelectionstudy.com...ow-to-vote-in-the-eu-referendum/#.WQma8IF_WaM
The methodology was they asked a little over 15,000 people the question "What matters most to you when deciding how to vote in the EU referendum?.
jufonuk
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Despite media hysterics on some sides and I am a remainer , I don't see the country going tits up north Korea style.
What I do see is a silly power grab that is now turning into a rather demented and rather nasty resignation letter with undertones of xenophobia, colonial imperialism sprinkled with stupid we won WW2 type nonsense so you owe us type sentiment.
Can't the uk plead temporary insanity and go sit In the back of the EU corner and keep quiet until it has calm the fuck down.
How to stop Brexit. Simply introduce a tax or law that greatly affects football, beer and marmite and Brexit will be reversed.
KonradLaw
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Well, when thinking long-term the best way for EU to get a great deal is to force hard Brexit and then let UK sit couple years in misery, before starting talks about a new deal
And ironically, immigration is going to be a large part of our leverage now in future trade negotiations. People still want to move here, so expect a lot of nations to make cheeky suggestions like PM Modi.
I highly doubt our net migration will ever go down significantly, and if anything, we're going to end up with more brown people (which will go down great with Leavers).
PJV3
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Sadly that sounds like a good plan from the EU end, strip away some UK business to help make up the lost cash while they are at it.
jufonuk
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We've gone full phantom menace.
KonradLaw
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Yep. Hard Brexit has no real benefit for UK, but for EU it will allow other countries to take over a lot of UK's services sector, which should make up partially for loss caused by UK's exit. And the downsides for EU will be split into 27 countries, so the shock of hard Brexit will felt nowhere near as strongly as in UK
Spuck-uk
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Why do you think the EU cares how anyone in the UK votes any more?
They're going to rake us over the coals, and we deserve it for being stupid, shitty, nationalistic self destructive jingoistic twats.
Spuck-uk
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The Lib Dems haven't said they'll abandon brexit, they've said they'll have a second referendum, big difference.
They also say a lot of things to try to get in power..
Spuck-uk
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..despite campaigning in more appearances for Remain than any other party leader.
Okay, sure.
Yup, this, the single biggest factor in people voting for brexit won't actually be solved.
Spuck-uk
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Daily Mail comments section is right there, UKIP and the Tories Leave campaigns are right there. 52% voted for this xenophobic bullshit.
ebullientprism
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Get Mexico to pay for it. Working out great for the USA.
Spuck-uk
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Fucking tell me about it
If things go the way I think they're likely to go in the next few years after this, I'm the fuck out of this shitty island.
sechsterangriff
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I wonder post-Brexit who all those xenophobic and racist leavers will blame when they realize a immigration is still increasing, just not from people from the EU.
jufonuk
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The government of course for get this, being lied to.
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