The law is written very broadly so that its not so easy for people to get around it. Basically if the kid ever got anything from the guy as far as favors or anything of value its a lock.
This charge alone has a punishment range of 10 years to life.
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Bryan Singer (X-Men, Usual Suspects) accused of sexually abusing underage boy
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The law is written very broadly so that its not so easy for people to get around it. Basically if the kid ever got anything from the guy as far as favors or anything of value its a lock.
This charge alone has a punishment range of 10 years to life.
Smh, sounds like when athletes treat the coach like shit because they can. Benching or punishing that particular player would mean losing on top of failure to the team. If the coach has any balls they put that fucker in their place though.
Terrible if true. Not going to be easy to be proven true or be proven false I'm guessing.
I'm reading more into Polanski and I can't believe someone can get away with that. Seeing people I'm fans of like Martin Scorsese, David Lynch, and Darren Aronofsky support him is disheartening as well. Hollywood seems really scummy.
Fair enough.
Bobby Roberts
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Nah, it's the reverse of that. It's the coach humiliating and shitting on the players because they have no real power in the situation and if they want any playing time, they have to take it.
Basically, anyone that played for Bobby Knight probably has an inkling what it's like to work for Michael Bay, in this loose analogy.
When it comes to creative communities, sometimes successful people will choose to forgive shitty people their shitty sins, not because they really forgive them, but because they want the same to come their way when they get caught for their own transgressions. It's not so much forgiveness as it is a down payment on their own get-out-of-jail-free card when the court of public opinion is about to weigh in on them for their transgressions.
Man The casting couch for those shows.
Rookje
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It's not uncommon. Rape (of any kind) is a horrific experience beyond compare. The victim might have been ashamed at first, or intimidated to not report it. He might not have realized how wrong it was at the time. The majority of molester priests were exposed or convicted decades after the abuses occurred.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Disgusting.
brandonh83
Banned
Yet she still signed on to be in his film making her his personal bitch during the shoot so I guess she was okay with that.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
She was probably not okay with that at all.
Lots of people put up with lots of shit they shouldn't have to in order to do a job they'd really like to do. Not just in show business either.
TrumanBurbank
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This thread on IMDb! Some of these boys! So fucking young looking, man.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001741/board/nest/206514215
Sweet Jesus.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001741/board/nest/206514215
Sweet Jesus.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Doesn't change the fact that abuse of power is disgusting.
Some people are really desperate for a big break.
I mean ultimately it is still her decision to choose the life she wants, but the exploitation of women in the entertainment industry pretty much knows no bounds. Extreme degrees of seduction and pressure that few are cut out for period.
brandonh83
Banned
Sure but let's not pretend that any sort of dignity was being exercised by either of them.
It's mind-boggling how Mia Farrow rallied behind Polanski even though her own daughter had been abused in almost identical circumstances. I guess Mia Farrow doesn't care about rape if her daughter isn't the victim.
brandonh83
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It is disgusting. I don't condone it at all, but she apparently went along with it so it's extremely difficult to sympathize.
So he waits until the release of a major blockbuster that his rapist directed? What does he have? A vendetta? We ought to be willing to at least accept that there could be something malicious at play here.
No, I'm not defending rape. Nor am I defending Singer per say. I'm just suggesting that if we're going to speculate in one way, then we ought to be willing to at least entertain all the possibilities.
That said, regardless of whether or not the victim is trying to maximize the impact of his suit...if rape occurred, Singer should be criminally charged. A civil suit isn't enough.
That's your choice but I hardly believe there is a place in the world where power and sex are not intertwined. Japan, korea, america etc. I have heard stories of sexual abuse going on in all these country's entertainment industry. It's pretty much human nature.
NotMyRealName
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Blacklisted? I know she got kicked off Transformers because Steven Spielberg didn't appreciate her making lackadaisical Hitler references every so often. Never heard of her being blacklisted.
Not really new it's been known for a LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG time (since the 70's? I know the 80's at least) that Hollywood is "scummy" in regards to business and handling of actors and actresses of legal and under-legal age.
I dunno about blacklisted, but have you heard from her since that incident?
Bobby Roberts
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What?
What exactly is the point you're trying to make here?
Is it this?
Because that argument doesn't seem to take into account the vast power differential between the two parties, not just in terms of Director/Actor, but Man/Woman.
If they were equals on that set, your stance might carry weight. But they aren't, and your stance is really unfair and shortsighted because of that.
brandonh83, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Good lord Singer really is a creeper. Disappointing.
Good lord Singer really is a creeper. Disappointing.
That's messed up. The most i would do as a powerful director would shoot at people feet and make them "dance"
Well, she's box office poison, all of her movies not named transformers have tanked. maybe is because of that you don't hear about her.
brandonh83
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She said that before anything, before they really knew each other let alone when it comes to hiring, that Bay got her into a car and "made" her walk 12 miles in the desert before he's like "okay you can walk." I'm sorry but if she found that offensive at all, she could have declined all of it and could have given him the middle finger. But she didn't and went along with it and chose to be in Transformers. There is no line of dignity at play here, they were using each other for mutual gain and they both seem to have gotten what they wanted.
I'm not really trying to make some deep point here other than Bay used her for what she wanted and she gave Bay what she wanted. It is disgusting, but again, difficult to sympathize. I'm not arguing against anyone here that it isn't disgusting because it is. I'm just saying that I'm not exactly on her side of the matter either.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Some people can seem to go along with abuse (both sexually and psychology), that doesn't mean it's not abuse.
PhoenixDark
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Welp. Nothing wrong with smashing young people as long as they're 18 but some of those guys look underage, and obviously he has been dogged by these rumors for years.
The accuser could just be a jealous or upset guy who is mad that Brian dropped him, but I'm more apt to believe this was indeed rape, given the multitude of rumors. It's the same with Kevin Clash. If one person accuses you that could be bullshit. Same with two. But once you get to three or more there is clearly a fire burning.
That's true as well. But since like Jonah Hex we haven't seen or heard of her, yeah?
Shes been having kids
We know he's a gay guy who likes young guys. Plenty of pics of him posing with twinks out there. Nothing ilegal about that.
Most people who are freaked out by that wouldnt if this was a heterosexual case of a movie star dating someone young but in legal age
Clearly this is something else tho, but just putting it out there. "Seducing" people with money or fame is what everyone in hollywood does. If this is truly a case of him drugging and forcing himself onto someone else then of course it is beyond fucked, but I dont really care if he has some gay twins living with him under some sort of arrangement. That's up to him and his lovers. Shit's fishy and people often call "EW HE'S CREEPY!" about anything.
Most people who are freaked out by that wouldnt if this was a heterosexual case of a movie star dating someone young but in legal age
Clearly this is something else tho, but just putting it out there. "Seducing" people with money or fame is what everyone in hollywood does. If this is truly a case of him drugging and forcing himself onto someone else then of course it is beyond fucked, but I dont really care if he has some gay twins living with him under some sort of arrangement. That's up to him and his lovers. Shit's fishy and people often call "EW HE'S CREEPY!" about anything.
I swear that last one looks like a porn star. But if they are 18 then what can anyone do? Also that is what a twink is and most twinks look young while being of age.
Phoenix Dark said:
Not to feel like I'm throwing Delio under the bus, but he's posted some boys in the GayF thread that he says are 18 and while I'm sure Delio is not lying, they look extremely underage. It pretty much got "Delio, hon, stop..." on that front.
Twink is a weird category since you have 17-18 year olds that can look like 12-year-olds.
(Oh, hey he posted. Hi Delio! Know I love you, but am using you as an example of the Twink thing)
Jibber Hack
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So sad what fame and power do to a person. You begin to cross lines that you shouldn't and now you're ruining lives. He's not the first and won't be the last. I hope that the allegations aren't true, but if they are then he needs to be stopped. Maybe this could be a wake-up call. The cynic in me says no.
wait what am i missing here
brandonh83
Banned
Now that's juicy.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
There'd have to be enough women in power over the course of Hollywood's history to constitute any sort of "institution" first.
Northeastmonk
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Or he was just granting wishes for all those X-Men fans. I mean, he did help bring X-Men back to the modern day scene. It sounds like a dirty defensive method. That IMDB post is pretty creepy. Like they had all this dirt on him for a while. Someone on the inside must have known this was going on for a long time, unless it's not true and everything under the sun went down.
Thanks a bunch -_-. But it's true. Twinks can look really young. I should note there can be older ones as well. It's all looks and stuff.
That was... unsettling.
That's a good point. Presumably there are networks between female executives and filmmakers, though? At the same time, it's very, very likely that sexual abuse is so widespread because the film industry is so predominately male. A more egalitarian industry would be less tolerant of this shit.
Yeah she is playing April O'Neil in the new TMNT movie directed by none other than Michael Bay.
brandonh83
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Michael Bay is Jonathan Liebesman?
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