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Civilization: Beyond Earth announced, Fall 2014, PC [Trailer, Details]
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bigboss370
Member
that dude in the middle tho
The AI in AC was atrocious
OtaQ
Neo Member
mhh... I really felt like communicating with real people/factions
Would you agree that the diplomacy-system was great? dapperbandit
Banned
The Purity, Harmony and Supremacy paths sound realy cool, although as titles they are vague and open to interpretation. Supremacy does not mean what one might think it means for example.
I'm hoping that in some form the unit customisation returns, I thought that was really neat.
Also, not being bound by history means they can do interesting things with the various leaders. Hopefully ideology plays a much bigger role in this game than it does in Civ. I really liked the different tenets you could go for in Brave New World.
I'm hoping that in some form the unit customisation returns, I thought that was really neat.
Also, not being bound by history means they can do interesting things with the various leaders. Hopefully ideology plays a much bigger role in this game than it does in Civ. I really liked the different tenets you could go for in Brave New World.
mhh... I really felt like communicating with real people/factions
That i have to agree with it. The factions did have personalities, though it was more about excellent writing than the AI.
Of course, the behaviors supported this to an extent, for example, Miriam was bloodthirsty in the writing and when it came to the default AI for her faction.
jaundicejuice
Member
I'm already launching for Civilization: Beyond Earth.
dapperbandit
Banned
Just read the PC Gamer interview, even more excited than I was.
The scope of the affinities and the philosophy behind them is fascinating. Supremacy definitely sounds the coolest to me, that transhumanism idea of leaving the frail human body behind, stuff like that. Harmony has interesting implications as well, being able to use alien breeds against your enemies, even bio engineering your own alien troops. I'm glad they've brought the unit customisation back as well.
It does sound like the team is dealing with pressure from two camps regarding how complex/accessible to make the game. One contradictory thing I picked up on was that they want the game to be much more replayable and the whole custom start thing is part of that. But the monsters on the different types of planet will be the same because they don't want new players to have to learn the rules again when they start a new game.
One last thing though, it really doesn't sound like it matters what faction you choose. You have a lot of freedom to pursue your own in game identity, so beyond perhaps boosts to different traits and a unique unit/building, it seems like the factions are there for the AI's benefit. Like, it won't matter whether you play as Brasilia or the American Reclamation Corporation but it will affect the AI because of the various flavours written into those factions.
The scope of the affinities and the philosophy behind them is fascinating. Supremacy definitely sounds the coolest to me, that transhumanism idea of leaving the frail human body behind, stuff like that. Harmony has interesting implications as well, being able to use alien breeds against your enemies, even bio engineering your own alien troops. I'm glad they've brought the unit customisation back as well.
It does sound like the team is dealing with pressure from two camps regarding how complex/accessible to make the game. One contradictory thing I picked up on was that they want the game to be much more replayable and the whole custom start thing is part of that. But the monsters on the different types of planet will be the same because they don't want new players to have to learn the rules again when they start a new game.
One last thing though, it really doesn't sound like it matters what faction you choose. You have a lot of freedom to pursue your own in game identity, so beyond perhaps boosts to different traits and a unique unit/building, it seems like the factions are there for the AI's benefit. Like, it won't matter whether you play as Brasilia or the American Reclamation Corporation but it will affect the AI because of the various flavours written into those factions.
The Librarian
Banned
A civilization game set in space? That's awesome; I hope there's an eventual console port. Like Civ: Rev 2.
Indeed.
I'm worried whether the can match the writing of Alpha Centauri, which is among the best in video games.
Oh, and does this have terraforming of any sort? I reckon it doesn't have height simulation like SMAC had (terroforming warfare, block rain to dry your enemies farmland!) :/
Yes. There aren't any details though.
Hype+10!
dapperbandit
Banned
The fuck...I did not know this was possible.
Also, yes some of the writing was very, very good for SMAC. THe wikiquotes page for the game is just a gold mine.
Isn't that just because most of the buildings are destroyed when taking over cities? The AI actually always tries to build every building. The same thing happens when you puppet a city.
Wind blows to east always in SMAC. The manual notes that island/continent western sides tend to be more fertile.
SMAX's adds tectonic missile, which makes forming mountains much easier.
And then there's fungal warfare, use fungus to hide your units (unless the enemy has sensor pods) and to slow enemy movement.
Or dig waterways to create islands.
Terraforming was amazing tool in SMAC.
Oppo
Member
My "citation" is that is what the lead devs of this game told me about their process.
It's not ego. Apparently Sid also wrote Civ Rev pretty much by himself.
Civ Rev wasn't a port, it was it's own standalone game with it's own tailored mechanics.
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
Maybe they explained the concept of nerve stapling to the ratings board.
XCOM soldiers were made into end game units in one of the Civ5 expansions, and Civ5-related hints were used in XCOM Enemy Within.
Back in the old days, we wanted Civ 2/3's end game screen to detect and then launch SMAC. The engine at the time wouldn't let you fiddle with that sort of thing, though, so I don't think anyone succeeded in modding that in.
Nimoy did Civ4. He had nothing to do with SMAC. The SMAC narrators were the faction leaders, who were nobodies. The only one who ever did much of anything else was President CEO Captialism Man.
Yeah, he's no American McGee.
Nobodies but so much better than many other narrators, i think.
I really hope this will have leaders with distinct personalities and excellent voice work.
zackmorris
Member
Any word on wether or not this will be out for Mac? Civ 5 is pretty much the only thing I play on my mac and would love to play this.
Yep, Mac and linux supported.
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
Oh, I agree with you. They were nobodies but they did some of the most evocative work ever put in a game. At that time, there was nothing else like it. Nowadays people want to pay $1m to have Sir Ben Kingsley come in and tell everyone "STOP CLICKING ME YAH TOSSER". I'm not sure if that's warranted. Though the idea of a Sexy Beast GTA V DLC just came to me, and I am telling everyone that it's my idea and if you steal it I'll kick you in the teeth.
TheRealTalker
Banned
I for one am shocked that they had the Somali language in the beginning
usually games only choose the same old nations rising for glory
Civ games leading the pack
usually games only choose the same old nations rising for glory
Civ games leading the pack
The full Civ Beyond Earth Firaxis Panel from Pax is available to watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llownjzhy_4
Really interesting stuff there.
EDIT Purity appeals to me very much. I'm a transhumanist (either kind, genetic or technological) but staying human even with all the changes? Yes, it is very appealing future.
Garcia
Member
It's like 1999 called and wants to make up.
Miriam gives a better trailer read though so we're already behind on that front :]
I'll have to watch that interview. Like others have said the story and world of AC were just as important as anything else. A crucial comment on this came from Reynolds (iirc) saying something like, 'Most sci-fi doesn't have many memorable lines so we had to create our own.' Somewhat biting, but honest.
So I went looking for that podcast and I found it.
The beginning was much more poignant and funnier all things considered.
Three Moves Ahead Episode 134 – The Alpha Centauri Show
Everything has come full circle.
new preview with some new screens (they're labeled 'E3')
http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/20/5732878/civilization-beyond-earth-takes-4x-strategy-to-the-stars
sounds good. It does look like a reskin of Civ5 though :b
http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/20/5732878/civilization-beyond-earth-takes-4x-strategy-to-the-stars
sounds good. It does look like a reskin of Civ5 though :b
RPS Interview: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/05/20/civilization-beyond-earth-impressions-interview/
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Another Hands-On and details piece: http://gamecrate.newegg.com/civilization-beyond-earth-hands-details-galore/
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Xcom did okay. Turn based works fine. No reason this game couldn't be on ps4.
I didn't like the sound of that at all. At least none of them is the lead designer.
Ohmigawd. How did I miss this. HOW.
That said, I'll probably start it once or twice and then proceed to watch streams of the game since I fuck up royally every single time. I lack the tactical skill required for Civilisation management. Still won't stop me from buying this.
Also, more space exploration themes in vidya games is a damn good thing.
Now excuse me while I drown myself in the trailer/interviews/other goodies.
That said, I'll probably start it once or twice and then proceed to watch streams of the game since I fuck up royally every single time. I lack the tactical skill required for Civilisation management. Still won't stop me from buying this.
Also, more space exploration themes in vidya games is a damn good thing.
Now excuse me while I drown myself in the trailer/interviews/other goodies.
There is a world of difference from X-Com to Civ.
Wiktor
Member
It would downgrade PC version. That's reason enough.
Adam_Roman
Member
Oh hell yes. That sounds like they're making tech work a bit more like social policies where you can just focus in one area. So pumped.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Garrus Vakarian
Member
Guy in the suite looks like Barack Obama.
Can't wait for this.