Shep Smith defends CNN and other news organizations against White House exclusion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc3W9dlON9Q
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CNN: White house blocking them and other news outlets from attending press briefing!
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Or, "It's ok if we do it, but it's not ok for you to do it."
It's FUD. Fox bitched and moaned because Obama wouldn't give them an exclusive sit down interview until well into his presidency, not because he blocked press access.
Extra Sauce
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Gerrymandering and voter suppression can definitely get worse, especially with the GOP controlling every branch.
The ultimate invocation of Streisand.
It's hilarious how little Trump's dick is. He can't handle shit.
The more he tries to pretend he is in control the more acutely aware his supporters are eventually going to be with his failures since he will no longer have anyone else to blame.
It's hilarious how little Trump's dick is. He can't handle shit.
The more he tries to pretend he is in control the more acutely aware his supporters are eventually going to be with his failures since he will no longer have anyone else to blame.
GutsOfThor
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Fox News is not news. They are the propaganda arm of the republican party.
He's had to make comments like this three times now.
parrotbeak
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I hadn't signed up for NYT because the WP already gives me more info than I can get through but I just subbed because fuck this fascist piece of shit administration.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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You must be incredibly lucky to have come this far without being banned.
Monocle
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Salutations, shitposter! Care to define fake news for us?
I can count on Shep, though. That man is so much better than that organization.
samoscratch
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I bet Wallace comes out against it, too.
Alligatorjandro
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We are becoming Turkey
Fancyarcher
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Trump is not smart. He's a cry baby who can't handle criticism.
E-Cat
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No, that's just his way of saying he's pro-dictatorship.
There's always been nice little incentives for being on the good side of the administration. 1 on 1 interviews, an exclusive here and there, Q&A priority, easier access to the President/VP/etc. That is why most news orgs try to be on the good side of the administration.
This is different though. This isn't an incentive being taken away. It's not a news org being prioritized less, not given interviews and such. This is straight up blocking information from an news organization and basically making them take a hit because they've been reporting things that you don't want the public to know.
I didn't mind Trump calling CNN and the like fake news. Obama did something similar to Fox. But that's pretty much where the similarity ends. And Obama wasn't as harsh as Trump was.
Most of the Trump supporters and conservative comments I'm seeing are "Obama did this to Fox news too! Where was the liberal outrage THEN?"
If there's one thing I've noticed about this election cycle from republicans, it's that they just love to try and pull the "both sides" excuse.
If there's one thing I've noticed about this election cycle from republicans, it's that they just love to try and pull the "both sides" excuse.
samoscratch
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Yeah..
Was just scanning twitter..and that seems to be the go to...
So tired of this garbage..
what kind of pussy drops a steaming turd like this and runs away to hide?
Tranqueris
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Hell yeah. That Chaffetz playbook. It won't go anywhere but it's something to bring attention to.
Sean Spicer is using the same kind of argument I see sometimes on GAF when someone says, "well how do we know my favorite company did what the article says? It has no named sources!"
Little Green Yoda
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The press better not take this lying down like the video game journalists do with publishers and information access.
CheesecakeRecipe
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It's at the point where I figure out the "what about when Obama" line before I post anything on facebook to make sure I address it upfront before the kooks show up to try to educate me about how because Obama considered doing something not as bad as what the Trump administration actually did, that I shouldn't criticise it.
It's insanely predictable at this point.
I think you may have inadvertently summed up the new press relationship going into the next decade. Next thing you know, the failing New York Times won't be getting any more electricity to their building until they start putting out reports that are at least 90+ on Trumpacritic.
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I like Shep. He's a straight up guy.
parrotbeak
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I saw some tweets accusing the banned news media of "seditious conspiracy" because apparently reporting on what the WH does may make some people want to overthrow the government. Took me a while to figure out who they were saying that about since if anything the WH's fascist behavior looks a lot more like seditious conspiracy to change our form of government than the media reporting what the WH is doing.
AndrewDean84xX
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No press members/true journalists should be ok with this treatment.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Setting aside the fact that Fox News by and large is a conservative propaganda arm (Fox and friends, Tucker, Hannity, etc) Obama never followed through on removing Fox from the press pool.
Obama went on fox news himself plenty of times and i dont recall him ever trying to actively ban the media he did not want to hear reporting on his info
they need to fight this tooth and claw.
If obama had done this, the hypocritical right would have been screaming their ass off, but now they are hypcorites
they need to fight this tooth and claw.
If obama had done this, the hypocritical right would have been screaming their ass off, but now they are hypcorites
Yeah, but the supporters NEED to believe it's the same thing. If they acknowledge that what's going on is worse, then they have to entertain the epiphany that "We're the baddies."
No one wants to be the bad guy. Even when they like doing bad things. They've built up a particular image in their minds now of being a persecuted demographic that is finally reclaiming their freedom, and they can't--and won't--entertain the idea that they may in fact be doing questionable things, and they'll double down on that.
Chie Satonaka
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He did, and he had every right to complain about some of their coverage of him, too. It was largely ridiculous. Despite that, he was still on their network and never tried to shit them down or exclude them from events.
What's happening here is different, and even Chris Wallace said that when Preibus tried to do that "But Obama!" shit during that interview.
This is a fucking disgrace, and all media outlets including Fox should be outraged.
no fucking true Americans should be.
Operations
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Christ, this is 2017! Can't believe this is happening in the US.
People like you who want to be ruled by a dictator are some of the most cowardly, brainwashed, un-American fuckers I've ever seen in my entire life. Congrats, your racist cuntstain of a candidate won. Please continue cowering in fear of refugees, Mexicans, the constitution, and anyone/anything else that dares "threaten" your sense of white superiority. The rest of us--you know, real Americans who actually give a fuck about the constitution, free speech, and human rights--will continue to fight for the country we love rather than hand it over to Putin and act like a fucking pussy all the time.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Thanks for making it even clearer that you have something to hide.
Not really. His approval rating is on average -10 already if you discount Rasmussen which is an outlier.
And what will he get for showing integrity? A mountain of public people he's trying to help turning against him and sharpening their knives to drain his blood for Trump to drink.
These are extremely sad times for the truth and good character.
MHWilliams
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We have some ardent free speech defenders.
Have at it. Here's a real example of free speech restrictions.
Have at it. Here's a real example of free speech restrictions.
I doubt this is really why they're doing it but this is an important point. Some of the accusations being made go way beyond insider gossip. Some of it is literally treason if true and yet it's presented as "our anonymous sources say x" and Trump can just go "fake news. sad!" and that's the end of it. "three sources tell us" is quickly becoming the new "some people say". CNN and other 24/7 channels can drop a half story and spend the entire day talking about. It's been used and abused so much it's becoming too easy for Trump to just brush it aside now. I hope in some way that these attacks have the opposite effect of stifling the media and instead makes journalist more determined to get to the bottom of something so that it can't just be waved away.
Even pundits and personalities on Fox News have admitted that never once did Obama declare them a threat to the people despite their many philosophical differences. There is a massive gulf between favoring news outlets that give you positive praise and declaring democratic institutions the "enemy of the people".
The press is an accountability arm that is protected under law because it can be a public check on our government. Declaring a potential voice of the people as an enemy of the people is a de facto shift towards authoritarian politics. I mean, fuck man. Even Fox News agrees with that.
The press is an accountability arm that is protected under law because it can be a public check on our government. Declaring a potential voice of the people as an enemy of the people is a de facto shift towards authoritarian politics. I mean, fuck man. Even Fox News agrees with that.
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Oh wow. How many weeks again? This is a dicatorship in fast forward.
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