• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Congress overrides Obama's veto of Saudi lawsuit bill; Blame Obama for their override

Status
Not open for further replies.
A

AstroNut325

Member
9ac.jpg


This really is a perfect analogy to our Congress:
b7e.jpg
 
P

pa22word

Member
Chumly said:
Please re-read the first post. You seem to be in the wrong thread. Your just as bad as the republicans that can't seem to read.
Click to expand...

First post is partisan schlock. This was a bipartisan fuck up. Who cares how McConnel is personally spinning it? Both sides of the aisle fucked up here.
 
D

dani_dc

Member
Laughing Banana said:
So essentially, this is something that both parties unconditionally support, right?

Why it seems like people only angry towards the Republican, then?
Click to expand...

Democrats are just as much to blame, but the mental gymnastics that the republicans do to blame Obama for even this situation is something worth pointing a spotlight to.
 
P

Piecake

Member
pa22word said:
First post is partisan schlock. This was a bipartisan fuck up. Who cares how McConnel is personally spinning it? Both sides of the aisle fucked up here.
Click to expand...

No, you just didn't understand my point and didn't read it in the context of the fucking thread.

I shat on both parties equally for being cowards in the other thread for this.
 
O

orochi91

Member
and that it would raise the specter of other nations hauling the United States into court for things it actually does — such as killing civilians in drone strikes.
Click to expand...
HELL.

YES.

I hope the US government gets inundated with lawsuits from other countries/denizens.
 
P

pa22word

Member
dani_dc said:
Democrats are just as much to blame, but the mental gymnastics that the republicans do to blame Obama for even this situation is something worth pointing a spotlight to.
Click to expand...

If this vote happened 9 years ago instead of right now the results would be the same. You'd just have Reid lambasting Bush as damage control instead of McConnel bashing obama.
Piecake said:
No, you just didn't understand my point and didn't read it in the context of the fucking thread.

I shat on both parties equally for being cowards in the other thread for this.
Click to expand...
Of what? That a politician is putting a partisan spin on something as damage control? Who gives a fuck? What matters is the damn vote.
 
J

JP_

Banned
pa22word said:
First post is partisan schlock. This was a bipartisan fuck up. Who cares how McConnel is personally spinning it? Both sides of the aisle fucked up here.
Click to expand...

Dude, can you read?

Piecake said:
Read what Mitch McConnell said and who he blamed for the bill. That is the whole point of this thread.

The other thread about the entirety of the bill has posters shitting on both Republicans and Democrats equally.
Click to expand...
 
G

Gattsu25

Banned
pa22word said:
If this vote happened 9 years ago instead of right now the results would be the same. You'd just have Reid lambasting Bush as damage control instead of McConnel bashing obama.
Click to expand...

Do you have any examples of democrats blaming republican presidents for their own veto overrides or are you just randomly tossing around "what ifs" in an attempt to throw the thread off topic?

Updating the OP to request people keep bullshit what if fanfiction out of the thread.
 
B

Biske

Member
Jesus they are really going with a "Thanks Obama" defense.

Jesus christ. Who the fuck is voting for these people? Jesus.
 
D

Dr.Acula

Banned
“By the time everybody seemed to focus on some potential consequences of it, members had already basically taken a position.”
Click to expand...

“By the time everybody seemed to focus on some potential consequences of it, members had already basically taken a position.”
Click to expand...

“By the time everybody seemed to focus on some potential consequences of it, members had already basically taken a position.”
Click to expand...

They took a position before they focused on the potential consequences?

brian577 said:
Reposting this so people realize how meaningless this is. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=218429348&postcount=206
Click to expand...

I guess this makes me feel better.

It still weirds me out that in American politics voting against your own party leader is something that's commonly done and acceptable. Voting against the PM in Canada is virtually unheard of, and when it does it often results in being booted from the party.
 
P

pa22word

Member
Gattsu25 said:
Do you have any examples of democrats blaming republican presidents for their own veto overrides or are you just randomly tossing around "what ifs" in an attempt to throw the thread off topic?
Click to expand...


The override isn't the point of this thread, the DC is. If you want examples of Democrat DC over dumbass senate voting though and then turning around and blaming the president look no further than the Iraq AMF. Hell, Clinton herself has some pretty sleezy damage control spin fuckery on that one.
 
S

Snowybreak

Member
Ah, fucking wonderful. Just what I needed to read. A god damned override for a bill that could fuck up relations with a bunch of countries. Well, I can at least say that Obama tried. I'm gonna miss that guy.
 
B

Biske

Member
120v said:
i'm honest to god surprised they haven't gotten around to blaming 9/11 on obama yet
Click to expand...

Oooooooooh but they have

Rudy Giuliani, no successful radical islam attacks until Obama came around:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fZqRPSvn0s


I mean, just why wasn't he around the office during 9/11? We need to get to the bottom of it.

https://youtu.be/eFQhw3VVToQ?t=210

Edit: Damn beaten, but really, its not even that out there for them to think it, their fucking leaders do, so why not.
 
P

pa22word

Member
Mr. X said:
Can't the Supreme Court intervene?
Click to expand...

Well, instead of vetoing it Obama could have pulled a W and issued a signing statement effectively overruling the bill. That would have left it in a grey area that would have spun it down into the courts for years, yes. Personally though I'm glad he left it to the democratic process, as flawed as it is and as stupid as I feel this vote is.

Signing statements have evolved into this weird loophole of the constitution that can leave the executive with nigh dictatorial powers, which W/Cheney and their overly hyped view of executive power used to full effect to some dangerous results.
 
U

UnemployedVillain

Member
Dr.Acula said:
They took a position before they focused on the potential consequences?



I guess this makes me feel better.

It still weirds me out that in American politics voting against your own party leader is something that's commonly done and acceptable. Voting against the PM in Canada is virtually unheard of, and when it does it often results in being booted from the party.
Click to expand...

Except it isn't, which is why this is so surprising
 
M

metalslimer

Member
God the conecessary Obama has had to deal with has to be one of the worst of all time. This isn't even ton mention his own party running away from him in a midterm where they lost control of the senate.
 
P

peteykirch

Member
So let me get this straight.

Republicans make it alright for victims to sue Saudi Arabia for 9/11.

BUT

They never made a push to declare war or localize troops to Saudi Arabia after 9/11? All the while spearheading an invasion of a country that was pretty much held in check by it's ruler and only was invaded so George W could do the one thing his Daddy couldn't and overthrow Saddam?

Yup sounds about right.
 
C

Cipherr

Member
pa22word said:
First post is partisan schlock. This was a bipartisan fuck up. Who cares how McConnel is personally spinning it? Both sides of the aisle fucked up here.
Click to expand...

We do apparently, thats what the thread was literally created about.

You aren't forced to join the discussion....
 
Auto_aim1

Auto_aim1

MeisaMcCaffrey
Obama sold SA $50 billion worth of military hardware since 2009. Of course he doesn't want his buddies to be sued. Senate Republicans are a bunch of idiots as well.
 
K

Kathian

Banned
He's your President. He vetoed it. He clearly gave reasons. Your supposed to be making decisions for your constituents - how did you not ask what the consequences were prior to voting?
 
E

Eidan

Member
pa22word said:
The override isn't the point of this thread, the DC is. If you want examples of Democrat DC over dumbass senate voting though and then turning around and blaming the president look no further than the Iraq AMF. Hell, Clinton herself has some pretty sleezy damage control spin fuckery on that one.
Click to expand...
I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following anything you're saying. Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, is blaming Obama for the veto override that he, Mitch McConnell, supported and Obama did not.

Please explain your example of something similar occurring during a Republican presidency, and like all good students, cite your sources.
 
P

pa22word

Member
Eidan said:
I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following anything you're saying. Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, is blaming Obama for the veto override that he, Mitch McConnell, supported and Obama did not.

Please explain your example of something similar occurring during a Republican presidency, and like all good students, cite your sources.
Click to expand...

Look up
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

  • Locked
Senate votes to override Obama's veto of 9/11 Saudi Arabia lawsuits
2 3 4 5 6
291
31K
Gattsu25 replied
  • Locked
"9/11 Families Can Sue Saudi Arabia" bill passes House; Obama likely to veto.
2 3
127
17K
The Albatross replied
With Few Wins in Congress, Republicans Agree on Need to Agree
2
53
6K
commedieu replied
  • Locked
September 11 families sue Saudi Arabia over terror attacks
2
74
7K
fireflame replied
  • Locked
Obama suggests Clinton didn't work as hard as he did
5 6 7 8 9
405
57K
AwakenedCloud replied
Top Bottom