Opus Angelorum
Member
It doesn't matter guys.
This is all reactionary from Microsoft, so it's null and void.
This is all reactionary from Microsoft, so it's null and void.
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CVG: Microsoft to reveal 'major 3rd party game' comes free with X1 [MCV: FIFA 14]
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Man-is-Obsolete
Member
You are missing the point. I am buying a PS4 at launch, I may be the only person in this thread that actively doesn't want a company to buy me a game, but I am already bought in so I would rather Sony put that towards a new IP for me to purchase down the road. Honest to goodness if Sony came out tomorrow and said BF4 is included with every system at launch I would think that was a stupid move as well. They have sold through launch allocations. What's the point?
That's an interesting point actually - I'll see what I can dig up tomorrow
Glorified G
Member
Some people? who? People who can't do math? This bundle add value a system you've already intended to purchase. Not a bad thing to keep those people happy but MS already them in the first place.
I'm not arguing this is bad. I'm glad it's happening. Competition is driving this which is good. But the move is still odd.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
Pot meet kettle?
Dual Blade
Member
BishopLamont
Banned
money doesnt matter...FREE GAME!!11ONE!!11
I have no idea what perks/stipulations would be in this contract. It may not be as cut and dry as "Welp, we're going to eat $55 per console". I agree that a price drop would have been better. Also we have no idea how long this speculated deal would last. Include a free game as a bonus and you can take it out eventually. Drop the price and you end up looking stupid when the deal is over and you bring the price back up.
Surely not for launch next gen games. Won't they stay relatively for on margins for a while?
Zombie James
Banned
A good and needed move by MS to cut the price gap in Europe, imho, even though a PS4 + FIFA would still be cheaper.
gamemadmax
Member
youre right
Future PhaZe
Member
what world are you living in?
The world isn't GAF where fanboys have already tattoo'd Sony or MS on their shoulders.
I know this is hard to believe but...my god, there are people out there actually still making up their minds about this shit!
Oh wow! Unbelievable isn't it?
So in conclusion this is a good thing. MS offering free FIFA is huge.
Does it make it cheaper than PS4 with FIFA no, will it release before PS4, maybe not. Does MS offer better value than Sony, no as they don't offer Instant Game Collection as well as Gold being more expensive and of course the system.
However for Xbox One fans this is good news I guess.
Does it make it cheaper than PS4 with FIFA no, will it release before PS4, maybe not. Does MS offer better value than Sony, no as they don't offer Instant Game Collection as well as Gold being more expensive and of course the system.
However for Xbox One fans this is good news I guess.
Nightengale
Member
Wouldn't this practically piss the fuck out of retailers?
This deal is great for customers, but if this is a long-term deal/bundle, then aren't retailers screwed out of the XB1 FIFA sales margins? There's a lot of money there.
Our company tried to implement something similar ( a plan that bundles something, which cut off the retailer margin from that something ), and it literally backfired because it pissed the hell out of our retail partners who vehemently refuse to push/sell the product on-ground.
This deal is great for customers, but if this is a long-term deal/bundle, then aren't retailers screwed out of the XB1 FIFA sales margins? There's a lot of money there.
Our company tried to implement something similar ( a plan that bundles something, which cut off the retailer margin from that something ), and it literally backfired because it pissed the hell out of our retail partners who vehemently refuse to push/sell the product on-ground.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
lmao. Seriously? Compare Hexic to FIFA sales in Europe and see why they did what they did.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Well it sweetens the deal for anybody already considering the console.
A wise thing, for Microsoft to add value to the package, in light of news that the PS4 will release earlier and at a cheaper price.
NonexistentK
Member
soo what would be the chances of Sony making PES an PS4 exclusive (a timed one) after this alleged MS & EA move?
No, this bundle can attract people that are undecided.
FeiRR
Banned
PlayRoom preinstalled on every PS4 is comparable to a free Kinect game.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Is there anything stopping Sony from doing a PS4 + FIFA 14 bundle for like, say, £359.99 or something?
Do bundles have to have the consent of the game publisher? Surely they do.
Do bundles have to have the consent of the game publisher? Surely they do.
Opus Angelorum
Member
lol
Monumental
Banned
Fixed.
Garrett 2U
Member
Playroom is that Demo where you spawn little minions and kick them around right? Yeah that's not comparable to a Kinect game.
You can never be sure - I wouldn't be surprised to see them offer like a PS4 + FIFA for £20 if you buy some groceries at the same time.
Breakfast at Noon
Member
because sales = quality? uhuh sure.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Agreed. I think this bundle isn't designed to get ppl who were getting a PS4 to switch so much as help convince 360 fans who weren't sure they'd get a X1 this year.
Smart move in a lot of ways. Whether it's a good idea from a strictly monetary angle I doubt, but it's a nice (albeit expensive) move by MS for people who were either already getting the X1 or thinking about it.
something fishy
Member
but not once it includes the inferior camera device to be fair (not that I want one).
BishopLamont
Banned
Its gonna be funny when they both launch with a fifa pack in and sony still comes out cheaper.
NullPointer
Member
And this is like an actual value add. Not like how MS usually does a value add, otherwise nobody else but launch buyers could play FIFA.
So yeah, seems like a good move if true. But its not my region and I wouldn't care for it personally.
The margins for games are sooo low as is I doubt it matters much and I am willing to bet MS is gonna give them a kick back to make up for lost profit. Retailers make a few $$$ per game sold. MS could give them that same discount on each system.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Are you seriously arguing Hexic is a better quality product than...FIFA?
CadetMahoney
Member
Funny how ppl are looking into defending Microsofts interests all of a sudden to be able to say it's a "bad" decision. It's nothing but good news and just business to MS.
Or another drinking game: how many posts of yours are dedicated to complaining about other people's posts. Which one would win I wonder?
something fishy
Member
but you then have to buy the camera and suddenly the prices are very similar.
Who gives a shit about PlayRoom, probably why Sony didn't make a big deal out of it. All it is a free tech demo that you can download and you are requitred to buy a PSEye if you want to play it. PlayRoom isn't a free pack in game. A free pack in game is something that is advertised on the box that it will come with the system, I bet Sony won't even mention it on the PS4 box.
Breakfast at Noon
Member
He is just saying he likes it more than Fifa and that's fine. I don't see the issue here.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
In this case it has nothing to do with quality, however, FIFA is a top-quality sports title. I love Hexic as much as the next guy but it isn't going to push systems the way FIFA will.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Yup.
Just had a small chat.
Main points.
Retail are going to be shellshocked tomorrow if it pans out like this, they have had no notice of anything like this. Losing one of their main SKUs for this year means they will be asking for a larger trade discount on XB1 according to him to make up for lost revenue. He also says that they will still use the PS3/360/PS4 version as a loss leader in the first week of sale.
FIFA 14 seems like a better pack-in than Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby.
BishopLamont
Banned
We're talking about impact on sales here, fifa is definitely the bigger deal.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Personally, I am still getting FIFA on PS4. However, if the PS4 version is riddled with bugs and glitches whereas the Xbox One version is relatively glitch free, I will be sure to never buy a FIFA game again.
Here's the deal. Had MS said they were going to pack in something like Ryse or Forza, then yes, it would be a generous, great move and would change some things.
They chose to pack in FIFA, a game that (a) will have been released almost two months after the XB1 releases, and (b) potentially already released on the PS4 for several weeks. It is a game with a fast shelf life, as are many sports games. The PS4 is still a cheaper option even if you buy FIFA and PS+ along side it. And it follows MS decision to delay the XB1 in many Euro countries, putting the FIFA pack in back till 2014, which is absurd.
We don't have all the facts of course, so maybe this will be a better value proposition if MS got EA to delay FIFA PS4 until the XB1 is released. But as a pack in game, this is business wise a fairly stupid move. MS thinks that gamers will wait patiently until the XB1 is out to get their FIFA fix. I say that's silly, but we'll see once we have more info tomorrow. It's not hard to see why people would think this isn't a touchdown hail mary pass to win the Super Bowl.
3rdamention
Member
It is a good deal, it is a great deal for those that got a preordered Xbox One in Europe. However, remember those "free" games aren't going to just be "free." They will come with Xbox Live subs just like the "free" games for PS Plus. Also, what apps are confirmed to be available at launch that will not be available on PS4 besides Skype?
EDIT: Is this for ALL Xbox Ones bought this year in Europe or ONLY for preorders this year in Europe? I am confused.