Why would this even be necessary? people are manufacturing hype and being let down because the console isnt the god console they envisioned. same thing happend with no man's sky. just let them reveal the specs and then judge if its the console for you.
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[Digital Foundry] New Scorpio Spec Leak: ESRAM Gone, GPU Features Revealed
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Why would this even be necessary? people are manufacturing hype and being let down because the console isnt the god console they envisioned. same thing happend with no man's sky. just let them reveal the specs and then judge if its the console for you.
Jaguar Victory
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The info about 4x pixels only needing 3.5x gpu power is interesting. More room for effects.
pretty done
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You could have built a PC six months ago and got the same experience, or better.
Its not, people were just letting their imaginations get the best of them.
Complicated
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There has been no downgrade whatsoever.
Don't make a girl a promise, if you know you can't keep it.
Lol perfect
From what was originally expected? Zero downgrade.
From what fanboys dreamed up of? Might as well be a toaster. A very nice toaster though.
Risk Breaker
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Yeah, like you say "interpolating animation" requires CPU time, like updating the position of all objects on screen? I can't see how it would work with a low/no cost. I mean, games are already optimized so that not everything happens every frame, only what is needed, so I still don't see it.
CrimsonEclipse
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Thread is a mess and I am not surprised to say the least.
Interfectum
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You waited 6 months for a console that basically had a PR release and fluff video? lol
Nikodemos
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It was the punchline to an old joke.
But saying 'people' as an item were hyped then disappointed by the info overlooks the fact that, ever since it was announced, a lot of voices asked to keep expectations in check until more info, while others outright stated that it was unlikely a fundamental architectural shift would be implemented.
I mean, maybe you personally were hyped by the speculations, but projecting that hype on others is hardly fair.
-shrugs- your right.
Its a tick of mine to police these threads like i'm some sort of 'expectation manager'. Its honestly not a very good look, but i generally don't have much self control but to post
Gradly
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Why did you ask me if I read their statements, etc in the past 7 months? If the reason that they changed their original plans then that answers your questions. I don't expect a company to reveal anything just to entice people then they come up with a compromised product at the end. True 4K gaming was a major tent pole feature, even it's the first one they show just have a look at the picture in the previous posts above. What I expect is 95% of games would be in native 4K otherwise it's a misleading announcement
SEGAvangelist
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No flipflop. Shannon Loftis just screwed up in her answer the question about this. MS clearly said "no one left behind" at the E3 2016 reveal which was before she screwed up her answer. She apologized for it very soon after and Spencer and Greenberg reaffirmed that the only Scorpio exclusives would be VR titles.
hanspampel
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GarthVaderUK
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It's not a downgrade, and this is a document from shortly after E3 last year, dated July 2016.
Not really
If they come out with some Scorpio-exclusive VR game (which i doubt they will) then you could argue people are getting left behind.
If an xbox 1 game gets a "pro-patch" that enables VR on the scorpio version, then you just have a different example of the expected dynamic- games on scorpio will have more bells and whistles
If the scorpio gets a port of a VR game that exists on another platform (PC,PS4) it isnt a scorpio exclusive, so their mantra still holds true.
Interfectum
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There has been no downgrade. It's becoming more clear that Scorpio is exactly what MS says it is, a 4K Xbox.
Apparently some people's hype got ahead of them with what this hardware is actually being created for.
I admit i felt really betrayed by the DRM shit after a lot of hype by MS officials online for Xbox 720, cause i was very invested in the Xbox ecosystem at the time and i didn't think they would try something like that.
But it wasn't just me who felt like that, there were others, while maybe not with DRM, but with the specs of the console, the kinect requirement, the price ect.
It was a shitshow.
Bruce Springsteen
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link?
I thought it wasn't even close to being on the level of a X1, it's a generation behind in tech
Don't forget to sprinkle in some "If Scorpio doesn't deliver native 4K for every title they're fucked/liars!!". Well I guess those people may have been fans too, just not MS fans lol
the fuck is this about??
Custom multithreaded CPU to GPU codepath, to keep asynchronus queues fed in PS4Pro and to a larger factor, Scorpion: will be the way to hide the slowness of Jaguar.
And we still aren't doing native DX12 games, yet. That helps the CPU out a lot. All the systems will benefit, from that. Xbone and PS4 probably wont do a lot with asynchronus compute, unfortunately. As their shader queues will already be saturated.
And we still aren't doing native DX12 games, yet. That helps the CPU out a lot. All the systems will benefit, from that. Xbone and PS4 probably wont do a lot with asynchronus compute, unfortunately. As their shader queues will already be saturated.
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LordOcidax
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Yes, the same way the PS4 Pro is a 4k PS4....
The Mad Draklor
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You have to admit, as a spectator, this is really entertaining.
You still haven't addressed this like you said you would iirc
He has been in the BC topic a couple of times i believe.
The Xbox guys were using Alternative Facts before it was cool.
Major Nelson is just fatigued from the thousands of tweets he gets every day demanding BLOPS 2 for BC
dr_rus
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Rasterization =/= GPU power
Some reference to the lone ranger
http://ward.asia.wiki.org/jenny.uk....ate.au.fedwikihappening.net/whos-we-white-man
Because they can't get away with dishonest PR spin here?
Nikodemos
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What? No, Switch is pretty current, tech-wise.
It's just that it uses mobile components in order to achieve low electrical consumption (and enable portable mode) which leads to lower performance.
But Switch is the closest Nintendo have ever been to current tech since Gamecube.
No they aren't. You just have to look at the Pro to see that. It follows the same design language as the PS4 Slim and even uses the same cheap plastic. There's nothing premium about it. It's just a more powerful PS4. Hence why it is only marginally more expensive than the base model. I've never heard Sony refer to it as premium product.
My point is that at the end of the day Scorpio is just an improved version of a 2013 console. Yet the rhetoric coming out of Microsoft and boasts about power: "breaking boundaries, no holding-back" suggest that Scorpio is something else.
If Scorpio is coming out at the end of this year, what kind of lifespan are MS planning for it? By 2020 eyes will be looking towards PS5 while MS will be 2 years into a console that plays games built for a 7 year old platform.
michaelius
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From magical 60fps@ native 4K box to Playstation Pro with slightly higher resolutions.
They have, already.
Major Nelson was posting yesterday in the Xbox preview thread.
I kinda predicted it would be like this, as did many others. There's going to be a hell of alot of butthurt / shattered dreams on the net though if this really is true because some people had allowed hype to totally cloud reality. Just like they did when they thought Switch would be an Xbox One which you could stick in your pocket and would only cost £200. People dreaming of Zen and Vega were deluding themselves - if it had been slated for a holiday 2018 release then maybe.
Slightly higher being native 4k?
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