You're wrong.
And the point of the two games you mentioned was they both ran at 30fps in videos we saw. If DS2 and WD had ran at 15fps, you'd have a point, but they didn't, so you don't.
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DriveClub making 'spectacular progress' release date update due 'in the weeks to come
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And the point of the two games you mentioned was they both ran at 30fps in videos we saw. If DS2 and WD had ran at 15fps, you'd have a point, but they didn't, so you don't.
mangochutney
Member
Nah I doubt it - it'd be a 50/50 split. Just like there is in any 30/60 fps discussion. Many like the graphical side, many want the fabled 60 fps.
That's why they'd end up with a big backlash on downgrading because that 50% don't care for 60 fps. Or at least, give priority to the graphics.
But hey, here's hoping they can pull off both.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Sorry not the director just involved
I've got project cars and assetto corsa and have played each of them both locked @ 60 and locked @ 30fps and the difference is noticeable.
Honestly though, I would take better visuals and LOCKED at 30fps over less visuals and locked at 60. It would have to be locked at one or the other because when I unlocked the frame rate of either of the PC sims but limited the max frame rate to 60, even though they never went below 60, that area in between messed with the feel of everything. Stuttering and tearing and lag just completely ruined the experience.
Too late probably on N4G by now.
meanspartan
Member
Soon!
Ugh so this makes "The weeks to come" sound just like an announcement of an announcement in which they will announce progress made so far and then announce when they will announce the release date.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Haha probably
Angelus Errare
Banned
It's the game director for Project Gotham Racing.
SniperHunter
Banned
My hype for this game went from 8/10 to 0/10. Just delays after delays...my hype was at the apex when they were releasing those 4 second gifs and trailers, while promising a big reveal "soon"
now I have no hope for this game.
now I have no hope for this game.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Just please give me something like this...
Please.
Please.
He's reading though, I'm sure. *friendly waves*
GO BACK TO YOUR STATION! STOP WASTING TIME ON GAF!
SEGAvangelist
Member
SwiftDeath
Member
Hmm well if I know Sony when they don't want to announce the director assume it's M Night Shyamalan
Assume the foliage will attack your car as you drive, that dead racers will haunt your car and that the DS4 will sense your fear level to determine if an unexplained monster eats you for no particular reason
TheRealTalker
Banned
Sony's PR is smart
DC has a few hyped followers but now with all the delays and the articles about delays they are getting more and more awareness...
they're using TLG tactics except it will actually release
right guys... guys?
DC has a few hyped followers but now with all the delays and the articles about delays they are getting more and more awareness...
they're using TLG tactics except it will actually release
right guys... guys?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Ahh I'm sorry man.
I imagine it is indeed quiet after all the people who've just been laid off.
Soon!
Insane Metal
Member
That's perfect for an ot imo. lol
Weather. I've played enough driving games at 30fps to be satisfied that it is enough if done well (motion blur etc)
As for timing..well if it isn't coming out now, I'd be tempted to use it as spoiling tactics against forza horizon. Come out too early, and forza gets a clear release slot. Come out head to head or slightly earlier and cast a shadow over it. (This presumes it is a better game, which might be a stretch. I'd put money on it looking better, but FH may play better)
dragonbane
Member
Probably Stig Asmussen, Amy Hennig or David Cage.
And inFAMOUS 1 & 2, no?
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I'm wrong? Doubtful. If a major graphics downgrade happens there will be outrage. 60FPS won't alleviate that at all.
The point of those 2 threads, isn't that they now hit 60, because one doesn't.. and the other probably won't... it was that it doesn't matter. The graphics downgrade was all that mattered.
It's fun to talk framerate, but when push comes to shove, people react over graphics at a considerably higher rate.
The framerate on GTAV sucked, but it was a pretty small minority of people who that really ended up being a problem for, even if that small minority was vocal.
I'm among those in the target audience of this game. I've played a steady line of arcade-style racers. I'm very picky about the quality of these games, partly a carry-over from when the market was flooded with them. In my experience, 30 fps doesn't detract from this style of play, and the added visual styling can absolutely add to the experience. Even within the last generation, PGR 3 and 4, along with Forza Horizon were outstanding at 30 fps.
Games like Burnout Paradise and Blur are fantastic at 60 fps. I adores 60 fps gaming, but outside of simulation racing, I've never seen a racing title with a consistent 30 fps harmed for that fact.
Drive on.
Games like Burnout Paradise and Blur are fantastic at 60 fps. I adores 60 fps gaming, but outside of simulation racing, I've never seen a racing title with a consistent 30 fps harmed for that fact.
Drive on.
Chuck Norris
Banned
I think it is, and I think its no coincidence the game was delayed. My uninformed opinion: Ged Talbot basically started kicking ass and saying "let me make this into a funner game"
Those games were objectively downgraded, they are worse, and we got nothing in replace of that downgrade, in fact they both look to run worse as well as look worse, that is a net loss, that justifies heavy criticism.
Taking a hit on the visuals for doubling the performance is not even vaguely comparable.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Worth an E3 re-reveal just to see someone get all orgasmic about driving realistic cars.
Raonak
Banned
And since when is 30fps a slideshow? There's plenty of 30fps racers that play fine. This is an arcade racer too.
Leave 60fps for GT7 imo. DC targets visuals and effects, GT targets simulation and perfromance.
Raven Prime
Member
I really hope the game doesn't sacrifice the visuals just to hit 60fps.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Ged Talbot is the MSR/ PGR guy right? Would be sweet if he took over. He is too awesome to just be a designer at the studio imo.
TJP
Member
Lead designer for Bizarre Creations; MSR, PGR's 1-4 and Blur are testament to why people want him to be the new game director for DriveClub.
hitting 60 is targeting visuals.
Raven Prime
Member
I know many feel that way, but it's not what I mean, and I'm sure you realize that.
If DriveClub goes from the current 30fps to 60fps, then it in all likelihood means something else will have to be toned down. The game currently looks gorgeous imo, and I don't think every game needs to be 60fps, even if it is a racer. Then again if DC is going to be Morpheus compatible I guess 60fps is a must.
If they can reach 60fps and still deliver all the visuals they have shown thusfar, great go for it. But I'm sure that if the overall look of DC gets downgraded, many on GAF will be very disappointed.
SuperEpicGuy
Banned
Hoping they hit 60fps so people can enjoy the game more. I have my 1440p youtube videos with custom motion interpolation to look for and admire when the game comes out.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I think the predictions of this games demise have been greatly exaggerated
FlutterPuffs
Member
Isn't the Game Director the one who insisted the game to be in 30fps?
SwiftDeath
Member
Fixed
I was about to say "are you fucking serious"
then I got the joke and realized how embarrassing the title of the game really is
Prototype Viktor
Member
Time for a sega moment. E3 starts they say Driveclub is out now then walk off stage
You're really bringing that up? The devs have said multiple times that it's on Logitech to provide drivers, which they haven't done. It's not a case of them not supporting your wheel, but the people that took your money not supporting the games that actually allow you to use your peripheral.
MyLifeIsALie
Banned
yea, truly the name of this game is the worse thing about it... At least that we know of, everything looked so awesome before it went underground, but FUCKING HASHTAG Driveclub?! Give me a break, what a juvenile name