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[Corky]

Well I guess those 10% suddenly turned to 0. Thank christ I'm sick off BS like that.

 

[iamvin22]

Those bastards. BF4 Pre-ordered CANCELLED.

Haha, thanks but no, please buy the game so my stocks can go up ;P

 

[Neuromancer]

I remember paying $70 for Turok Dinosaur Hunter back in 1997.

 

[dr_rus]

I dunno. Everything that EA has done right this gen they've managed to fuck up this gen too. The only game from them that I'm remotely interested in right now is Mirror's Edge 2 - and we're even not sure that it'll happen. DA3? Phaleese. BF4? Yeah, right. MEsomething? No trust in Bioware now. Dead Space? Time to end the franchise I think. NFS? Lol. So what exactly are those next gen games from EA I'm supposed to be excited about?

At first he said that PS4 ports will look better with higher rez and maxed effects, then he flips and says that the 720 will have better ports. The fuck...

Nah, it's pretty clear what he says: Xbox devkits were higher spec than the retail units will be but even after this downgrade games on Xbox retail units will look better than on PS4.
That'd mean that the specs of Xbox3 that we have through rumors and leaks right now are completely wrong. Otherwise there's no way that the above may happen.

 

[JohnnySasaki86]

No.... Increased efficiency just means they'll be able to better utilize the 1.2 TF of THEORETICAL performance of the GPU. It's still 1.84 TF vs 1.2 TF which of course they're going to say are in the same ballpark. Because they are. But the extra CUs on the PS4 GPU will still make a difference.

Thats debatable, purely subjective. It depends on if they utilize that extra power. 50% more is no small joke. I'm speculating that there is a much higher chance they will, compared to if this was the situation last gen. The consoles are so similar(apples to apples), and PS4 is said to be so easy to develop for. Which means it takes a lot less time and money to make improvements. Compared to taking advantage of the extra power in Cell costed publishers an arm and a leg.(DICE- bless their souls)

At first he said that PS4 ports will look better with higher rez and maxed effects, then he flips and says that the 720 will have better ports. The fuck...

Hes saying the games when revealed on 720 will look a lot better, because they've had the up to date dev units for a lot longer.

 

[Kyoufu]

I remember paying $70 for Turok Dinosaur Hunter back in 1997.

And you traded it in at some point.

 

[gaming_noob]

At first he said that PS4 ports will look better with higher rez and maxed effects, then he flips and says that the 720 will have better ports. The fuck...

Nice observation. Does thuway have twitter? Need an explanation.

I remember paying $70 for Turok Dinosaur Hunter back in 1997.

$126 CDN for Doom 64 at Toys R' Us back in the day...maybe $99 US with the exchange rate in the mid 90's.

 

[beast786]

Haha, thanks but no, please buy the game so my stocks can go up ;P

Pre-Order Reinstalled.

Good luck man.

 

[Diablos54]

I dunno. Everything that EA has done right this gen they've managed to fuck up this gen too. The only game from them that I'm remotely interested in right now is Mirror's Edge 2 - and we're even not sure that it'll happen. DA3? Phaleese. BF4? Yeah, right. MEsomething? No trust in Bioware now. Dead Space? Time to end the franchise I think. NFS? Lol. So what exactly are those next gen games from EA I'm supposed to be excited about?

FIFA!!

 

[RaijinFY]

At first he said that PS4 ports will look better with higher rez and maxed effects, then he flips and says that the 720 will have better ports. The fuck...

To me sounds like Microsft will throw some bs videos pretending it's running on their machine (at E3?) and then, they will show some noticeably downgrades between E3 and their launch release. That's how i'm reading that.

 

[Chamber]

So FIFA and Battlefield from EA at launch? Surprised there won't even be a gimped version of Madden available.

 

[angelfly]

Definitely not happy about $70 games. I'm sure EA aren't the only with that figure in mind.

 

[Kyoufu]

To me sounds like Microsft will throw some bs videos pretending it's running on their machine (at E3?) and then, they will show some noticeably downgrades between E3 and their launch release. That's how i'm reading that.

But it's made up...

 

[J-Rzez]

If BF4 isn't shown at GDC it's clear we won't see it until their E3 conf. Maybe they're hoping to unload at once and target their main competition, Activision. Which is fine as I hate the 2min "demos" shown at Sony/MS conferences and would rather see greatly expanded demos explaining and pointing out things much more thoroughly. Though they will miss that extra 2mins of publicity.

 

[Einbroch]

At first he said that PS4 ports will look better with higher rez and maxed effects, then he flips and says that the 720 will have better ports. The fuck...

Haven't devs had the Durango kit for a while? I'm pretty sure he's just saying that, at E3, 720 games will look better but that it's not really true for games down the road.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

To me sounds like Microsft will throw some bs videos pretending it's running on their machine (at E3?) and then, they will show some noticeably downgrades between E3 and their launch release. That's how i'm reading that.

How times change, I remember the Xbox 1.5 jibes when they were honest in showing games running on Alpha.

 

[Painraze]

To me sounds like Microsft will throw some bs videos pretending it's running on their machine (at E3?) and then, they will show some noticeably downgrades between E3 and their launch release. That's how i'm reading that.

He's making shit up... spreading F.U.D.

 

[aganu]

Would of he been banned regardless if he just told us the info(cause he wasn't given much time?) So essentially banned for teasing? Or was he banned because he was about to reveal info he wasn't supposed to?

Dunno man, I'm not a mod but I'd classify his post as trolling (sorry thuway!). How do you tell members that they aren't going to believe something that has 10% chance of happening, all veiled in a "I know a secret that you don't" tease. Ridiculous.

 

[Jake Tower]

• Building into all games micro-transaction: "Consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of the business"
• Over $25 Million revenue in micro-transactions alone last quarter.

When I read this, I want to travel the globe and beat the shit out of these people like Jay and Silent Bob did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1_8wefR7c

 

[Arrogant Menace]

Haven't devs had the Durango kit for a while? I'm pretty sure he's just saying that, at E3, 720 games will look better but that it's not really true for games down the road.

Nah he's just spreading garbage, he hinted at Xbox specs downgrading

 

[Neuromancer]

And you traded it in at some point.

Yep.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

E3 with CGIs for Microsoft (like Sony at 2005), at launch, Durngo games will look worst than E3.



PS4 games will not look like Durango CGIs.

MS isn't going to show CGI trailers for games launching inside of 4 months from E3.

Don't believe the fud.

 

[XtremeXpider]

To me sounds like Microsft will throw some bs videos pretending it's running on their machine (at E3?) and then, they will show some noticeably downgrades between E3 and their launch release. That's how i'm reading that.

That means no playable demos.

MS isn't going to show CGI trailers for games launching inside of 4 months from E3.

Then... why downgrade?

 

[njean777]

I remember paying $70 for Turok Dinosaur Hunter back in 1997.

You also got a nice box, with a good manual and it was incased in plastic called a cartridge.

 

[RaijinFY]

Could be true?

http://ps4daily.com/2013/02/playstation-4-cpu-runs-at-2-ghz-rumor/

 

[Baconsammy]

EA had 80 games? Wow. Sounds like they're doing what Sony currently is and consolidating teams and cutting fat. Did they list what those 15 franchises are?

Could be true?

http://ps4daily.com/2013/02/playstation-4-cpu-runs-at-2-ghz-rumor/

Would be funny if Sony purposely sacrificed the launch games just to misrepresent what their console was going to be to trick Microsoft.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Nah, it's pretty clear what he says: Xbox devkits were higher spec than the retail units will be but even after this downgrade games on Xbox retail units will look better than on PS4.
That'd mean that the specs of Xbox3 that we have through rumors and leaks right now are completely wrong. Otherwise there's no way that the above may happen.

I'll say it one more time: Microsoft does not care what Sony's specs are as long as they are in port territory. They are in a very nice place where they can get inferior ports that will look almost as good as the PS4 bretheren. They are coming after your living room, not after your 14 year old brother.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48321042&postcount=34

The 8 GB of RAM gave Sony the advantage in ports that at one time was a wash. Llherre mentioned a while back, when Sony was still at 4, that PS4 would be better at certain things, while Durango at others (mostly memory intensive things). Now PS4 has an unquestionable advantage in terms of tech, but that won't mean much in sales if folks don't care.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48319190&postcount=358

So i'm not sure what's up with that one quote.

 

[Beer Monkey]

How would EA know if the two new systems are comparable in power? Oh, wait.

 

[Y2Kev]

He also said the same about Destiny not being there on the night. It was there. He also said third parties in general wouldn't be invited, but Capcom, Square and ActiBlizz were invited and showed stuff.

Then he started shit about EA and Sony not getting one well and implying that we might see MS exclusives from them, EA just confirmed BF4 and FIFA for PS4.

Seriously he just seems to be very down on PS4/Sony for some reason, maybe Kaz ran over his dog or something.

It's called confirmation bias. It is totally normal, human, and unavoidable.

 

[JCizzle]

To me sounds like Microsft will throw some bs videos pretending it's running on their machine (at E3?) and then, they will show some noticeably downgrades between E3 and their launch release. That's how i'm reading that.

Sure, I guess that's possible. But it's not like GAF won't notice the CGI and call them out on it.

 

[dr_rus]

Could be true?

http://ps4daily.com/2013/02/playstation-4-cpu-runs-at-2-ghz-rumor/

Sure why not? I'll be surprised if it'll run on less than 2 GHz at least. I mean, my Core i7 is running at 3.6 GHz while being a lot lot lot more complex than the Jaguar cores used in PS4 APU.

So i'm not sure what's up with that one quote.

Specs for Xbox3 isn't set in stone at the moment. That's the reason why they hadn't announced it yet. But even if they'll go for an upgrade after seeing what SCE has to offer, that can't be a complete rebuild of the system. The basics of the architecture should stay the same - meaning that there will be a ESRAM buffer and a slower DDR3 RAM pool, Jaguars and a GCN GPU. They can change the metrics of these though - make the ESRAM larged or increase the DDR3 size or up the number of CUs in the GPU.

 

[velociraptor]

At first he said that PS4 ports will look better with higher rez and maxed effects, then he flips and says that the 720 will have better ports. The fuck...

I assume the E3 720 'demos' will look better than the PS4 demos.

 

[Punkster_NY]

Nah, it's pretty clear what he says: Xbox devkits were higher spec than the retail units will be but even after this downgrade games on Xbox retail units will look better than on PS4.

That'd mean that the specs of Xbox3 that we have through rumors and leaks right now are completely wrong. Otherwise there's no way that the above may happen.

It was a bit confusing but I see what he was talking about now.

I assume the E3 720 'demos' will look better than the PS4 demos.

I can live with that. I guess it's up to Sony's first party devs to show us what the PS4 can really do then.

 

[SpinningBirdKick]

• Data collected on gamers through created technology and algorithms allow them to engage the players.

Translation: You will be profiled whether you opt in or not and then have marketing rammed down your throat at every opportunity - it will be relentless.

Ugh.

Next gen really is going to suck.

Investors will love this, gamers not so much...

 

[Unknown One]

First is specs, after it's squashed they divert to sales. I don't care, getting the best version while you can play with sales.

 

[RoKKeR]

I assume the E3 720 'demos' will look better than the PS4 demos.

...based on what?

 

[Neuromancer]

You also got a nice box, with a good manual and it was incased in plastic called a cartridge.

Yep, those were the days.

 

[pieatorium]

you guys are lightweights, I payed $149 (Australian) for Mortal Kombat 2 on the Mega Drive. Granted the aus dollar wasn't worth shit compared to today but that was a lotta dollars for 13y/o me

 

[specialguy]

To me sounds like Microsft will throw some bs videos pretending it's running on their machine (at E3?) and then, they will show some noticeably downgrades between E3 and their launch release. That's how i'm reading that.

The PS4 launch really wasnt that impressive by most accounts. The only "real" game they showed was KZ4 and it arguably looked like a PS3 game +.

I think it's funny but it wouldn't surprise me the least if the Durango event showcases better looking games than what was at the PS4 event. It's just something I kind of see coming for whatever reason, especially since the internet seemingly declared PS4 to utterly crush Durango, and well these things usually blow back...

It's likely Durango games are in a currently higher state of polish for example, imo.

That doesnt mean that Durango games in 2015 will look better than PS4 games in 2015, of course.

 

[Kyoufu]

You also got a nice box, with a good manual and it was incased in plastic called a cartridge.

Let's not get crazy.

Cardboard boxes were awful.

 

[specialguy]

To me sounds like Microsft will throw some bs videos pretending it's running on their machine (at E3?) and then, they will show some noticeably downgrades between E3 and their launch release. That's how i'm reading that.

I remember paying $70 for Turok Dinosaur Hunter back in 1997.

Yup, $73 or something for Final Fantasy 3...

Which would be the equivalent of like $120 today...

And I must be the only one, but I never traded in any games...

 

[Plinko]

I seriously believe $70 games will cause a crash. Consumers have a plethora of cheap iOS games and colossal backlogs to choose from now.

 

[Unknown One]

It wouldn't crash at 70. Publishers will just dial the price back down. PSN will have self publishing and the publisher can choose any price range.

 

[njean777]

I seriously believe $70 games will cause a crash. Consumers have a plethora of cheap iOS games and colossal backlogs to choose from now.

I believe it will hurt traditional gaming as well. 60$ is already a lot of money, but upping it even more for no reason is just beyond ludicrous. Its pure greed at this point.

 

[Alebrije]

Definitely not happy about $70 games. I'm sure EA aren't the only with that figure in mind.

Well , it will depends how demand elasticity behaves , from my point of view is a risky step since today economy is weak. also I do not get why a videogame will cost more if PS4/DURANGO are more friendly systems than PS3/360 (specially PS4).

 

[XtremeXpider]

To me sounds like Microsft will throw some bs videos pretending it's running on their machine (at E3?) and then, they will show some noticeably downgrades between E3 and their launch release. That's how i'm reading that.

But how can thuway know something like this?

 

[JCizzle]

I seriously believe $70 games will cause a crash. Consumers have a plethora of cheap iOS games and colossal backlogs to choose from now.

I think it would be interesting if only one publisher tried to make the leap - imagine a $70 BF4 going up against a $60 COD.

 

[SolidSnakex]

If EA is floating that figure then they're going to be pushing Sony and MS to let them set their games at that price. I guess that was in some ways aimed at Sony since Tretton said that games would be between .99 and $60.

 

[Majanew]

$70 games? In this economy? Haha ... hello crash. That price won't stick. Especially, Xbox versions that you can't trade in because MS is run by morons.

 

[Kyoufu]

$70 games and only available new.

If that happens then Wario64 will be busy next gen.