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Eurogamer: Independently confirms source that the PS4.5 is real, referred as PS 4K
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Bits N Pieces
Member
That doesn't change it that devs will have multiple hardware specs to address and that the current owners are getting something different. Gb color did this. Failed.
wapplew
Member
It fractured the heart of early adopters, that's for sure.
fracturing the user base was never really happening... hurting feelings, possibly?
I have no idea why would people who think that PS4+ is horrible also think PS5 should be completely different from PS4. If any PS4+ being true upgrade would mean their PS4 would last another 5 years at least, which is way better than PS5 option where PS4 is dead after it arrives.
Also it is either going to have more power or not. If it is replacing regular PS4, then any power increase will be strictly academical, not true upgrade.
That will suck arse and Microsoft will have a nice way to get back into game with XB1+.
Obliterator
Member
No where does Eurogamer say this is about media. No where. They say there will be media benefit but most of the article is about games so I'm not sure what your actually talking about.
And Kotaku lead the industry when they want to break stuff
- The Prey 2 fiasco
- The real story behind Destiny
- The PS4 dev kits
- The Xbox One dev kits
- 3ds and Wii U info
- Versus XIII being canceled and being called FFXV
- Multiple AC games
- Fallout 4 general info and its setting
Just off the top of my head. The most trustworthy source on this info right now is Kotaku. Plain and simple
Running multiple base specs for consoles has always failed for a variety of business reasons. It's a stupid idea for sony or microsoft. My opinion on this is not brand dependant.
Spencer did walk expecations back on this. Might just be throwing shit PR at the wall of enthusiasts and seeing how it sticks.
Obliterator
Member
For this type of thing? Not at all and the idea he would know more than Patrick Klepek, Stephen Totilo and Jason Schreirer is hilarious.
Colonel Nasty
Member
I'm pretty sure every current 4K tv supports HDR. It's been universally supported late last year. I'm sure you can find models that don't but every new model this year on out should have it.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Ahh ok, good. Hopefully wide color gamut is the same next year and not insanely expensive.
No where does it say that it's just for media
I don't know if it would be worth it, but assuming they already have a plan for a PS4 slim (as they did for every iteration since the first Playstation), why not ensure it can properly reproduce/output 4k content and bluray with just a *small* upgrade without sacrificing UI and multitasking? Maybe even HDMI port needs to be upgraded as well, i'm not sure!
Integrated Breakout box seems a no brainer if they can do it: early PSVR adopters would simply have some spare cables and could easily connect the device directly to the PS4 slim...
I think it's at least 15 months away from us anyway and, in a not so distant future, i can totally see a PS4slim+PSVRslim bundle at $/ 599,00!
Bits N Pieces
Member
I disagree with this, if the upgrade path is easy and painless and you carry your software library with you then I don't see what they would be fracturing?
This is a new era we are in as far as tech goes and how quickly it advances, both MS and Sony seem keen to tap into this market abd I think both will be successful.
The Devil will be in the detail though, really looking forward to E3 to see what they both have in store, heck, you can fling Nintendo and the NX in their as well
Mr. Giggles
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franknbeans
Member
I'll buy even if it's just 4k media. I need an all in one solution for 4k content from Amazon, Netflix, YouTube, uhd discs, etc. They can upgrade the Wi-Fi radio while they are at it.
I love how before this generation started there were serious discussions if consoles were even viable anymore. Journalists were declaring consoles to be dead, publishers didn't want to invest in big AAA games and even some fans of consoles were thinking this may be the last generation.
PS4 and Xbox One come out and PS4 it outpacing the PS2 and Xbox One despite being in 2nd place is still selling good numbers. Now that there is a hungry market for consoles Sony and perhaps Microsoft are willing to throw another wrench in the works and risk poisoning the well of their loyal adopters for what? Slightly better looking games? A slight profit margin increase on hardware? This just seems ill advised and honestly I hope it blows up in their face.
PS4 and Xbox One come out and PS4 it outpacing the PS2 and Xbox One despite being in 2nd place is still selling good numbers. Now that there is a hungry market for consoles Sony and perhaps Microsoft are willing to throw another wrench in the works and risk poisoning the well of their loyal adopters for what? Slightly better looking games? A slight profit margin increase on hardware? This just seems ill advised and honestly I hope it blows up in their face.
Outrun
Member
Zhuge does not fuck around.
Nocturno999
Member
Fine as long as early adopters dont get screwed.
It would be nice if the upcoming Final Fantasies run significantly better on the new model.
It would be nice if the upcoming Final Fantasies run significantly better on the new model.
The breakout box is for sending the signal back to your TV undistorted
BibiMaghoo
Member
Devs need to target a spec, and that will likely be the better PS4, which means current PS4 owners get a worse version of a given game on the same platform. There will not be PS4. There will be a PS4 and a better PS4. It fractures customer base, games, performance, media coverage, you name it. It divides a platform into two systems.
Aceofspades
Banned
I called "bullshit" to 4k "native" games and I still do.
PS4.5 running 4k games natively is impossible with adding a seriously powerful Gpu equal to Titan or close to it.
Mr. Giggles
Member
He does not, and quiet frankly with nothing confirmed Im taking it all with a handful of salt.
OT: I fucking love the XJ220. one of the GOAT super cars...
Obliterator
Member
The nice thing about Zhuges post is litteraly he cant be wrong. Everything is maybe this, maybe that. Devs have some power but not all. There can be some improvement but maybe not. It will do better media and maybe better games.
Its all over the place. I'm not saying he really didn't hear these things or he's a bad guy but there is no definitive statements in what he said at all
Its all over the place. I'm not saying he really didn't hear these things or he's a bad guy but there is no definitive statements in what he said at all
It fails for business reasons. It's an idea almost as old as video games and it's failed dozens of time with man different variations.
The reason it fails is because consumers have a concept of how often they want to upgrade and don't like being rushed and publishers have certain ideas about technology cycles, project timelines, target audience size and also don't like being rushed. Early gen switched frustrates both groups.
The business reasons for a console and console cycles haven't changed.
chromatic9
Member
Look at number 7
Sounds like a modest upgrade.
The 4k idea is not utterly crazy if you take the fact that 970/980 GPU released in 2014 can do 4k in quite a few games from the last 2 years at around 30fps with either existing consoles settings or better like Ryse, Shadow of Mordor, COD AW, Metro Last Light and many more. Of course games like AC Unity won't but you can achieve 3200x1800-2880x1620 30fps which is up there. This is on a ~150w on average GPU. Nvidia should be able to get this perf per watt down to 100-110W. I doubt AMD can catch up with Nvidia or will make an APU like this though.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
So it's basically PS4 slim. Doesn't sound like much of an upgrade if devs wont even get to use the extra power tbh.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Would they both play the latest COD multiplayer together? I would say the masses wouldn't care about any of the above as long as Jimmy PS4 and Johnny PS4.5 can play games together as they do right now.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
. Witcher 3 what?No problem. Sorry for not realizing earlier that this was genuine. I've been on GAF too much today so I distrusted the intent.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
Explain to me why devs would target a niche device over one that 30 million people own. Please, I want to know.
Omnistalgic
Member
nah...over for MS everywhere but U.S and UK. A beefier X1 halfway through the gen would get an insignificant amount of exclusives if any. I think it would be Ps2 Xbox all over again.
Also I kinda want a 2nd ps4 wish we could get clarification so I would know if I should wait or not.
If this is a slim I don't care either way...very cool and I welcome a slim tbh..
But will it really? I think this is where a lot of people disagree. I'm more inclined to think developers would still primarily target the base PS4 (in the event the "PS4K" offers a noticeable performance boost), and then offer some slight enhancements on the upgraded version. It's really not different from what how they handle PC versions versus console versions. More users own the lowest common denominator console, so they start with that and then add some sprinkles for people with higher-end machines.
draughn101
Member
Life must be unbearable for those people then. Releasing a new phone! A 2016 Camry that's prettier than my 2015! Ahhhh!!!!!
It seems like the majority were okay when they thought Sony would do it, don't see how the sentiment would differ for MS. If it's inclusive and could potentially bring more gamers to the fold, it's win win.
Fredrik
Member
Both upgrades suck but XB1.5 is worse imo if these rumours are true and PS4K is about 4K only, you won't have to upgrade to PS4K if you have a 1080p TV but XB1.5 almost seems like a mandatory upgrade if there is a huge performance increase.
The saving grace for MS though is that they've already released their biggest first party games, Forza has even showed up twice, so while I would still be pissed I wouldn't be quite as sour if I had to buy a new Xbox this early as if I would have to buy a new Playstation where the first party output so far has been a bit too heavy on HD remakes.
Bits N Pieces
Member
So someone playing on a £500 PC can't play the same games as a £2000 PC? This is the model they both seem to be going for: keep your friends, trophies/achievements, game library, apps etc but just upgrade the hardware every few years.
The consumer now is a different purchaser than when I first started gaming 25+ years ago and I would say the masses are a lot more open and receptive to looking at iterative hardware.
Time will tell of course but I think it's wrong to be dismissive of this going on previous buying habits.
They're just as apt to ignore the improved tech on the bette system all together and then people who bought it get that sour taste in their mouths. (Darksouls on pc).
Trogdor1123
Member
How did it help the n3ds?
Kamina
Golden Boy
I dont think any only-N3DS games have been released yet
As this gen of console sales and the NEW 3ds has taught us. Nothing is different. As well pc is a different beast as the consumer on the hogh end there are more complexity tolerant. Even there there is a lot of lowest common denominator targetting and doing it all right is tough.
draughn101
Member
Do you feel obligated to buy every new car that's faster than yours? Just because you may feel the need to upgrade doesn't mean everyone should. Most people don't notice the difference between 30 and 60 fps as it is. If the games come in the same box and the console is the same name, they won't notice.
Did their hearts get fractured when slim models were released in the past?
Apoleptica
Banned
Did we ever find out if these PS4 slim leaks from a few months ago were real?
finalflame
Member
That's definitely fake.
Care to elaborate your sales data? Because in my opinion the good xbone sales are pushed mostly to the Christmas time in US where sell extremely well; because aside this fraction of time, during the whole fiscal year, xbone sales aren't exactly that good. It's out of my mind how some people hasn't yet noticed this important particular.
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