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Fallout 4 Season Pass: $30, "we dont know what the actual DLC will be yet"
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WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Fallout/Elder Scrolls usually have quality DLC, and I buy them all so the fact that this saves me money is pretty good. Glad they are doing this.
OrbitalBeard
Member
The actual worth is what consumers are willing to pay.
Psychoward
Banned
I bought the PS4 version and couldn't even finish Left Behind I was so bored but I get that the game just isn't for me. Oh well.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
O well yea thats entirely on you lol
The best part is that with a game this size 75% of the people buying the season pass won't have even finished the regular content. I never bought Bethesda DLC (minus the new Vegas money one, boo) because I can't even fully explore the originals in the first place. Has no bearing on the argument but it's likely true.
DoctorFling
Member
Just because publishers regularly do this nonsense doesn't mean it's acceptable and as long as companies like Bethesda do this I'll keep telling them to shove it. Even preemptively planning a $30 dollar season pass before release is bollocks.
VincentMatts
Member
At least theyre honest about it.
Hip Hop
Member
lool did you seriously not expect them to release DLC for the game?
"Take that, bethesda!!!!"
these comments, lol.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
Did you even read that thread? Most were ok with them adding DLC because it ND. This thread is contrast to that with much more "hating" going on.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Then don't buy it. But that doesn't make responding with a simple "fuck off" a reasonable option for public discourse here. "I think I'll wait and see if the content is worth it" is a reasonable response. Not "fuck off Bethesda!"
OrbitalBeard
Member
Of course it's true . The majority of people likely don't finish any games they purchase.
MegaMelon
Member
They're offering the chance for you to pay before knowing what you'll be getting. Think that's dumb? Don't buy it- there's no problem with that. This is more aimed towards hardcore fans of the series and those who are happy with Bethesda's track record as well as those who will be buying all dlc anyway at launch and would like to save a bit.
blame space
Banned
What about planning any post release content in general? And planning to charge money for it? Bollocks? Or mentioning it out loud before the game's released, is that the problem?
uncleniccius
Member
So, they were honest and announced that they're doing a season pass - which is unsurprising given that they usually release lots of DLC - and you're not going to buy it new?
I actually like companies coming out and announcing this stuff. I think they should maybe wait until they have a better idea about details, but knowing Bethesda's track record there's really no reason to worry?
dealer-
Member
But every game does this now. I mean, Fallout 3 had some sizeable expansions and that was seven years ago.
Shift Breaker
Member
I don't like the idea of pre-ordering mystery digital content, but I do like the idea of being able to get all of the content at a reduced price when the reviews come out, particularly during a sale.
There may be some truth to this, but DLCs usually offer something different, like a new locale to explore, new weapons, armor, enemies and the like. You can explore a good chunk of the regular content before it all starts feeling the same.
Mind you I like more of the same, and actually prefer it to DLCs but I can understand wanting something new.
uncleniccius
Member
This. Either we know in advance or not, it changes nothing. I'd rather be slightly better informed personally.
Off-Kilter
Banned
Yeah, but at least with Skyrim, MCC, and DC, we at least had some idea of what we were getting, or to be more accurate, what we were supposed to get. :lol This Fallout season pass thing, however, is a crapshoot. Bethesda doesn't even know the value of the contents, and that's a problem.
To be clear, I'm not inherently against the idea of preordering games, nor am I against buying season passes that are clearly laid out (like the awesome Mario Kart 8 season pass, which to date is the only season pass I ever bought). I am against season passes where you don't even know what you're getting.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Which one lol three of them turned into talking about the dlc and not in a good way. The same amount of hating was going on in both in my opinion my point was to say no publisher should get a pass, if ones going to get questioned others should too
John Kowalski
Banned
Bethesda has a long history of significant long term support, it's only natural of them to offer this option for those who will buy it regardless. More money to fund the DLC content is always a good thing.
Professor Renegade
Banned
Please, please, PLEASE let the DLC be like New Vegas!
Summer Haze
Banned
Or they just don't care/ take gaming as seriously as others? Or they have enough expendable cash to not think twice about it? Or they have faith that Bethesda will deliver based on how much that person enjoyed their past DLCs? Maybe all three of those things?
The 'if you don't share the same view/opinion as me you must be *insert insult here*' way of thinking on (not just) this site is so fucking tiresome. Get over yourselves.
Gravy Boat
Member
No, but if they say 'we're planing on doing this to be released at X time, here's a screenshot or whatever' then you've got people acting outraged that they're working on DLC before the game is released.
Like, nobody is forced to buy the season pass until details are announced. Anyone who does is stupid, but I'd still rather them say 'Hey, we're going to release some DLC. It'll cost $30, going to start working on it soon' than 'Hey, we're selling you this content 2 months after the game releases, buy it now to save $5'.
I'm not defending season passes at all here, but it's a nice change to say the least when a developer pretty much admits they haven't started working on DLC while the game itself was still in development. That doesn't mean people should buy the season pass, at least not until some info is announced.
I am still shocked that people are mad that companies are being more open and giving you more information about their support of the game. More information is better for the customer not worse. Wanting them to withhold information (DLC plans) just so you feel better is not better for the customer. If you are worried about them cutting content from the base game just for the DLC then just wait until the DLC comes out. It will most likely be obvious if that is the case.
The trouble with season passes is that whether you actually get stuff at a reduced price is an open question though. If at the point of payment you don't know what you're actually getting, a lot of it is on faith. While it might technically be true that you get more than 30 dollars "worth" of content in total, there is a question of how much of that content you would have actually wanted if you know what it all was.
I don't think there is a problem with pre-ordering digital content. It's no different from any other type of content. The problem is paying for something which is not detailed at all. That is not cool.
Yep. Of course they're going to do DLC and offer a season pass for it; a season pass is always done.
I think the takeaway from this should be that they clearly aren't chopping up the game and selling it for extra on top of the base $60 price. If they don't know what the DLC will be just that they want to make DLC in general then they'll develop it separately, the way DLC should be.
At the same time, it makes sense not to buy the season pass when you don't know what will be in it, but I don't know how much umbrage should be taken at the company allowing people to buy passes now without such foreknowledge.
Better no promises than unfulfilled ones, right? I appreciate the honesty. Bethesda has a solid track record of delivering post-release content, so it's not likely they'll take your money and run.
Personally, I don't see myself ever supporting season passes (at regular price), but this is the norm now and it makes sense for Bethesda to do this with their franchises.
New Vegas DLC was definitely better than FO3, but come on the originals wasn't THAT bad.
Aren't you pleasant.
People in this very thread are doing just that. Which risks this mindless hypothetical purchase culture to become yet another norm in this industry.
They've not announced what it will have, and people are already willing to throw paper at it. It's baffling.
I think you have to be pretty silly to buy these season passes with no idea what the dlc will be, how much and when.
Then again, I know there will be people who are just so die hard as fans of Fallout, that they wouldn't care and have faith that the content will be good.
Each to their own. I'd probably do the same with some games, but they are in an extreme minority and I'd at least need more info than - we don't know what it is yet
Then again, I know there will be people who are just so die hard as fans of Fallout, that they wouldn't care and have faith that the content will be good.
Each to their own. I'd probably do the same with some games, but they are in an extreme minority and I'd at least need more info than - we don't know what it is yet
I'm this guy. I would've pre-order it if it wasn't really expensive here. Guess I'll wait.
Gravy Boat
Member
Oh I know people in this thread are doing that, and those people are stupid and deserve to be judged. Nothing is gained from buying a season pass. The 'It saves money' argument is such nonsense, considering you're saving at most $5-$10 on a purchase that's probably close to $100 over all.
Fbh
Member
Don't get why anyone would pre order this but other than that I don't see all the drama over this.
So after all their big games last gen had DLC you where expecting this one to have none?
So after all their big games last gen had DLC you where expecting this one to have none?
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
I don't even like Bethesda but they are pretty good with DLC.
You glossed over where they said FORCED. No one is being FORCED to do anything. Everyone in this thread can wait until the first couple of DLC packs are released to see the quality and whether it, and future DLC packs are worth 40 bucks. Or they can sneak in early based solely on Bethesda's history of DLC (which they trade on in the announcement) and save 10 dollars off.
With "AAA" games and their dlc, I always do this too.
Can you link me to where i can currently buy the season pass? I didn't see it on the Playstation store but I would like to give people here an aneurysm by ordering it
Steve Youngblood
Member
Here's my problem. I'll happily concede that shady stuff does happen. And I not only think it's ok for consumers to be wary of where they spend their money, but I actively encourage people to be more discerning with where their dollars go. But I also get really, really tired or righteous indignation just for the sake of it. Maybe I'm just out of touch here, but it becomes difficult for me to ascertain which issues are serious and which aren't when people seem to just default to screaming about anything and everything they don't like.
Game gets great reviews but actually doesn't seem to work right when regular end-users are playing due to insufficient infrastructure? Yeah, that's a serious problem worthy of consumer outrage. A company is announcing that they're making content -- a surprise to absolutely nobody given that every other company does this in 2015 -- and that you can opt to buy everything in advance? What is even the problem there? If you want more info, then don't preorder it. That power is your's. There is absolutely no pressure to buy the season pass.
My view on this is that it seems silly to look at this as a publisher "allowing people to buy passes now without such foreknowledge", like it is some gracious act of freedom. The reality is probably that the business side of the publisher has mandated that they will be selling a season pass, and that it needs to be announced and marketed pre-release because they want to push people to buy it to add to their launch profits. The developer side probably does not feel comfortable detailing anything yet, and sure to their credit they're being honest about it. Still a crappy deal for consumers though!
wild wild rice
Member
If I knew they would be story packs I'd probably be OK, but knowing they have that base management shit in there I'm not shelling out any $$$ up front.