cutmeamango
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That's what I'd do.
That's what I'd do.
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Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter
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freenudemacusers
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Anger, yes, but revenge? No. It was happening right in front of him. He stopped it.
Pristine_Condition
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You called it murder. Don't pretend people are clowning on you for any other reason.
Boss Man
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Texas
victreeb3l
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father should be given a medal or two. wouldve done the exact same thing.
That it took 86 posts until someone wasn't okay with the story. Why you thought that I was saying you're find with child rape is beyond me.
Tha Robbertster
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I'm not an native English speaker so I don't know all the different words for ''killing a person'' and their nuances. For me, that's what murder is.
Okay, I thought you were implying that I was on some kind of child-rapist defense force.
SnakeswithLasers
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Ha, that's actually an interesting thought. Of course, there are a lot of things humans aren't allowed to do despite them being the natural thing to do.
People really need to understand a sense of context to laws, rather than just putting actions in a vacuum. That's disgusting.
Pristine_Condition
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Murder is the word for a crime. Killing someone (like in this case) isn't always a crime.
That's not what the word actually means.
Particle Physicist
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The guy was in the middle of molesting his daughter. It was defense.
"Hey sir, please kindly stop molesting my daughter. Thank you"
nVidiot_Whore
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Not really going to mince words too much here.. kind of pointless.. this entire thread is full of vengeful statements about the guy.. "I'd have done much worse."
These statements aren't "I'd have done more to make sure we were defended properly," they are statements of revenge.
If he beat the guy out of anger, then yeah.. that pretty much defines revenge.
But we can move on. My point wasn't to claim this was outright revenge; maybe he really did just punch the guy twice to get him off his daughter.. my point was that there are people who are disgusted by "killing someone" even if it's in response to something like child rape.. and this thread is definitely full of people making statements of rhetorical vengeance; it was addressing that as much as the case itself.
Always-honest
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Good riddance.
Must be traumatic for the dad though. First a guy sexually abuses your 4 year old daughter and then he punches the guy to his death. That will leave a mark.
But i'm glad the baby-abuser is dead.
Must be traumatic for the dad though. First a guy sexually abuses your 4 year old daughter and then he punches the guy to his death. That will leave a mark.
But i'm glad the baby-abuser is dead.
Dude Abides
Banned
That depends on how long the punching lasted. If he did more than necessary to stop the assault, it's manslaughter. Though the DA would be a fool to charge him.
nVidiot_Whore
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Again.. you think rapists just keep on raping when they are caught in the act without repeated head punches?
Simply entering the room probably ended the rape.
Either way.. let's all pretend the people in this thread aren't making CLEARLY vengeful statements..
CommonSense
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He put his goddamn hands on a 4 year old girl. You want to maybe to talk it out over beers?
Particle Physicist
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That is not true at all. If he found out about the molestation at a later time, and then he beat the guy to death, you may have a point. But he caught the guy in the middle of the act. He was defending his daughter. There is absolutely no argument here.
4 years old. She was 4 years old.
What the hell do people in this thread have to do with what happened to this guy and his daughter?
StalkerUKCG
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Would do the same in a heartbeat.
thetrin
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This is seriously what I was going to post.
Emerson
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This. It's a crime of passion, if anything.
Several fists entering his face probably kept him from escaping.
freenudemacusers
Member
This is what I'm getting at. Revenge implies a cooling off period.
CommonSense
Banned
I have to be honest. I'm not sure I would have the restraint even if it happened years ago and I was just made aware of it. I hope I never have to deal with this...
No one is defending the actions of the rapist, what the heck are you reading? Some people are just saying he didn't need to die. People in this thread need to stop with their hyperbole to get their points across.
nVidiot_Whore
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I haven't raped anyone.
So how about you calm down and respond to my posts, and not get all angsty about it.
I said repeatedly his vengeance kill was justified. I'm just not going to sit around pretending it was really required to "defend" his daughter.
It was likely a combination of defense reaction + angry vengeance. But if my words are just going to be twisted I'll unsubscribe.
GAF can't really have a "logical" discussion about anything.. it's like everyone is sitting around getting angry about what hasn't happened to them.
freenudemacusers
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Punch for the knees!
Pristine_Condition
Member
No, it's likely not a "crime" of anything.
All you people having trouble with the English language, try the word "homicide" on for size. That is the proper word for the killing of a person without making a criminal judgement.
In this case, it seems this was a justifiable homicide, as the father was defending his 4-yr. old daughter during a criminal sexual assault on her person.
CommonSense
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There are things in life that are so sacred that talkimg it out doesn't work. A daughter is one of them. I have one so forgive me for putting myself in the guy's shoes.
nVidiot_Whore
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Try following the conversation.
Which was about.. what people had said in this thread.. and how someone was disgusted with those statements.
I chimed in.. to say, these people are disgusted by killing, even if it's for revenge.
I'm not going to argue with you on your definition of revenge; I don't personally think it has anything to do with how much time has passed.. if I see someone groping my woman at a club and I swiftly punch them in the throat.. IMO, I am enacting revenge.. just swift revenge.
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Emerson
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All of this was already implied by the phrase "if anything" in my post. That is to say, if it was a crime (highly unlikely) then it would be a crime of passion. Not first degree murder.
This isn't a valid excuse to me honestly.
Also I may be a heartless evil man, but frankly I'd preferd the piece of garbage die then to have good tax payers dollars that would be used all so a few people who are against death can save a piece a trash who would touch a little girl.
"Oh, you caught me raping your 4 years-old daughter. I have learned my lesson and promise never to rape again."
Somehow, I don't see that happening.
faceless007
Member
ROFL, so you define "logical discussion" as "everyone posting the exact same thing."
nVidiot_Whore
Banned
What "doesn't work" though?
I'm not suggesting he SHOULD HAVE "talked it out".. I'm simply discussing reality... that if someone walks in on a 4 year old being raped, that rape is probably ending pronto no matter what transpires afterwords.
So it's not really a case of "justified defense" but "justified rage".. aka a manslaughter charge that would never stick because of the circumstances.
Beyond that, my only point was to address pacifists who believe it's always wrong to kill people, even if (I'll avoid the word revenge) it's in REACTION to something.
These people often have never experienced being the victim of much in their life.
Tha Robbertster
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You hope you'll kill a man?
Pristine_Condition
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You can't have a "logical" discussion because you've obviously made up your mind, calling it a "vengeance kill."
What if the guy was struggling to hit the father back until the very last blow? Ever even thought of that?
No, you are too busy making up wild "vengeance kill" scenarios in your wild imagination, and blaming others for not being "logical."
Are you saying the people arguing that the rapist didn't have to die are a "defense force"? Really? And for that matter, "defense forces" are the ones arguing against the majority opinion, which creates discussion. Up until someone disagreed with the majority opinion, this thread was "good, would've done the same" and similar - you can't possibly be saying that's a logical discussion?
Beyond the point. If you rape my daughter, there is nothing in the world that will stop me from killing you. There is no conversation, there is no negotiation, there is no compromise.
There are some things in this world that needs no justification. I will do as I see fit. If the consequence is jail, then that's a very small price to pay. Is it logical? Not at all, but not everything is followed by logic. That's why there is instinct.
nVidiot_Whore
Banned
And where did I say that is what would have happened?
People are claiming this is a "defense" case..
I'm simply saying that is intellectually dishonest. The rape probably would have ended simply from walking in the room.
Now respond to me, and then say something totally unrelated that I didn't imply, as if that's what I implied.
CommonSense
Banned
Agreed, I put myself in his shoes for a second and the rage inside me was consuming. My girl is my world.
Ice cream for her when I get out of work.
SnakeswithLasers
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