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Creating an alibi to ditch her for the new waifu Mika
Parallax Scroll
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Mortal Kombat?
CommandThrower
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I play it, and I know .la1n plays it. I can't think of any other FGW regulars who play it off the top of my head. I know Silky does, but he's banned.
You might have better luck checking out the Killer Instinct OT
I just want the cammy one.
CountBlack
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Really solid. He keeps it relatively simple and doesn't try to be fancy at all which really works for him. He's not really all to inventive with her though. I haven't learned anything new from watching him play her vs Sako and Galtu. I would say Sako has the better Elena, but Gamerbee is more solid of a player.
shaowebb
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By God you earned it man. You've been super active on multiple boards, push hard to further the scene, and have remained solidly objective in your feedback to help make things overall better in NRS titles. You never really seemed to push one tool without considering and bringing up who such changes would impact in matchups and whether or not they should receive balances to compensate. Always enjoyed your work and level head on TYM and here. Hell you were one of the first to get me shaking hands, learning the scene, and finding out whats up with NRS titles when I ventured in with Injustice.
You worked hard man. Time to be a closer part of what you love than ever now. Enjoy yourself.
sixteen-bit
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ViewtifulJC
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Anime Web Turnpike sighting
Parallax Scroll
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like why would ryu not have a beard
sixteen-bit
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ViewtifulJC
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he's basically homeless, right? He's a hobo. He should have a giant unkept beard, unless he keeps a mirror, a razer, and some shaving cream in his bag at all times.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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He donkey punches his facial hair off.
toddhunter
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Exactly. It is Cammy they messed up. She looks too doll like.
True. Dont know how i feel about that
Asians don't have as much body and facial hair as white people
I think people just have to spend some more time with the new Cammy. Watching Poongko do those tricky resets gives me the impression the character has potential.
The V-reversal OS looks cool, but I wonder if Capcom will leave it be.
Are you thinking about going to CEOtaku by the way? To raise the Gundam flag high.
The V-reversal OS looks cool, but I wonder if Capcom will leave it be.
Yeah, I feel you. More than once would off topic things cycle back into relevant stuff. It's tough. I recognize that I also have the benefit of being able to speak with hindsight. Ah well.
Are you thinking about going to CEOtaku by the way? To raise the Gundam flag high.
In games with cross up protection, you should be fine with blocking either way. I still don't know for sure if that's true regarding auto correct dive kick though. I just remember hearing it on stream somewhere. It could be totally false or they might've changed it.
Professor Beef
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but she is a doll
I don't see how they could rid of it if they wanted to.
call_kotaku
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I don't think donkey punching comes from the same etymology as donkey kicking
It's one of those things that's going to exist unless they build in a really obtuse exception to normal rules. Follows the normal fighting game rules of blockstun vs non blockstun stuff :v
I think it's fine though. Like if you understand the action being OSed you just RPS that action when you leave them out of blockstun.
I like this mentality.
You could OS a bunch of stuff, and even more once every character has both a punch and kick alpha counter.
Chun examples:
charge back, forward LP+MP+HP = alpha counter or ex kikouken
qcf hcf LK+MK+HK = alpha counter or CA
hcf LK+MK+HK = alpha counter or ex legs
Karsticles
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You could also easily bait it. Jump back and catch the kicks on their recovery. I don't see it being terribly useful.
CommandThrower
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Love you, Beef. Throwing down those SF story facts!
Zissou, your doom tutorials are godlike, please keep on making them if you ever feel like it. Plus your song choices are really good.
I haven't played the beta so I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I still don't get it. What's the difference between doing EX fireball or EX legs during blockstun vs. just doing f.MP~LK+MK+HK or even just doing f.LP+MP+HP during blockstun? The startup is probably slower than EX legs, but it doesn't cost a meter and it's probably safer.
Maybe you could just delay your frame trap too (the same way you would delay your frame traps if someone were delay teching). Thinking on it, this is probably why Bison doesn't have psycho crusher anymore lol.
Karsticles
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I had that thought, too. Did Psycho Crusher have startup invincibility? I never used him in SFIV.
I think if you're in a position where you're desperate enough to guess alpha counter you have a lot more to worry about than whether you can OS it or not. Anything that's too fast to v-reversal on reaction would probably come out fast enough to stuff whatever you OS and probably recovers fast enough to block the counter anyway. It seems like a solution to a problem that could only even potentially exist online, I don't get it.
Does Bison's reversal do something other than attack that you would actually want to do against a jab or something?
Does Bison's reversal do something other than attack that you would actually want to do against a jab or something?
EX does.
Karsticles
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It's just a typical reversal with knockback. It looks like it might anti-air, though. Maybe you could V-Reversal a cross-up jump? I will have to give it a try.
I've been foregoing V-Trigger for constant V-Reversals lately - very effective, because I'm in the minority that thinks his V-Trigger is nothing special.
Thanks! A lot of the time I wonder if anyone cares, haha. Since I actively play both marvel and xrd (going all in on the sfv beta also), I try to make videos for everything I play and alternate between games so nobody gets the wrong impression and thinks Im not playing game x or game y anymore. I have a Doom vid in the pipeline thats nearly complete
If youre trying to alpha counter you will of course make mistakes sometimes (i.e., you will attempt it when not in blockstun) and the OS stuff lets you choose what your whiffed alpha counter will be. I was just giving examples. You could OS alpha counter/dragon punch with Ryu to combat somebody pressuring you with staggered lights or something. This could be countered easily if the person attacking knew you were doing it and just stopped pressing buttons.
Lol I completely forgot that you can do 6236 for DP. That sounds more useful, but I'm still struggling to think of a situation in which I'd use it. Even against staggered lights, if someone did st.LP stagger st.LP, if I blocked the first one and tried to input 6236, I'd probably just get hit lol.
Can you do 323 and get DP in SFV?
You can (AFAIK).
Yeah, 323 does give DP. Strangely enough, I don't think there are shortcuts for Supers iirc.
It, uh, it works like fuzzy defense guys. during blockstun you get one option, outside of blockstun you get another.
The standard way to deal with fuzzy defense is to bait the non-blockstun option with a gap + your option to beat it. They choose DP, you leave a gap and block the DP or make it whiff, they choose a mash you leave a big gap and let the mash whiff or stuff it, etc.
Fuzzy defense is just a thing in its own right you're going to deal with. Somebody is going to be fuzzy mashing you in every game, that is life. The alpha counter OS is no different, it just adds the alpha counter to it. It'll be useful depending on how often you want to alpha counter things while calling out other mix up options. Seems pretty specific and hard to implement to me but it probably has some pretty solid use vs certain situations.
Edit: What does make this one pretty neat is that the option you choose during blockstun is actually not block. I guess with SFV coming it would be a good idea to make a universal write up about how this works to explain "this will all exist in SFV and it's not that scary."
The standard way to deal with fuzzy defense is to bait the non-blockstun option with a gap + your option to beat it. They choose DP, you leave a gap and block the DP or make it whiff, they choose a mash you leave a big gap and let the mash whiff or stuff it, etc.
Fuzzy defense is just a thing in its own right you're going to deal with. Somebody is going to be fuzzy mashing you in every game, that is life. The alpha counter OS is no different, it just adds the alpha counter to it. It'll be useful depending on how often you want to alpha counter things while calling out other mix up options. Seems pretty specific and hard to implement to me but it probably has some pretty solid use vs certain situations.
Edit: What does make this one pretty neat is that the option you choose during blockstun is actually not block. I guess with SFV coming it would be a good idea to make a universal write up about how this works to explain "this will all exist in SFV and it's not that scary."
I remember pages taking forever to load, can't say I miss those times.
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That was my brothers homepage LOL
Monocle
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CountBlack
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Bonchan won
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