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[toddhunter]

I like this change. I've said it numerous times before, but the current version of SSF4 AE2012 is great. Let players continue to enjoy it and make USF4 the crazy broken version of SF4.

Yeah fair point I suppose. Hopefully Ultra comes with a mode selector then people can just go nuts breaking it (or not...maybe)

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

You have poor reading comprehension don't you? You really must.

You equated the decision to go next gen or not now based on what's currently available to choosing a winning team or wanting to be right. What was brought up was the descion to upgrade or not should not be drama.

I'm not talking petty message board system war talk from people who feel a need to defend their purchase for some reason and choosing a console is like choosing the mets or the Yankees.


And sweet, I hope that delayed wake up in AE is true.

 

[Deckard Cain]

You equated the decision to go next gen or not now based on what's currently available to choosing a winning team or wanting to be right. What was brought up was the descion to upgrade or not should not be drama.

I'm not talking petty message board system war talk from people who feel a need to defend their purchase for some reason and choosing a console is like choosing the mets or the Yankees.


And sweet, I hope that delayed wake up in AE is true.

You are continuing to prove my point. Thank you.

 

[Shito]

You can combo using red focus into a crumple state.
Ex. Ryu st. hp -> cancel red focus level 1 (crumple) -> ultra = combo

Wowowowow.
We're reaching Jojo's territory there...

 

[Huw_Dawson]

Zangief gets to combo into U1 off a normal. o_o

This sounds super fun.

EDIT: Hey, isn't this Ken's Alpha costume?

 

[Loona]

Wonder if that's Terry or an older Rock? The new KOF is rumored to be a dream match after all. Having Terry, Rock and Geese in one game would be pretty boss.

It's not rock, Rock has red eyes, while Terry's are blue, like in that 3D model.

Seem growing older and seenig the kid he helped raised turn away from him at the end of Garou were more than his usual happy-go-lucky demeanor could handle.

And Mary looks good (if that's her).

Not Mary, that's Alice Nakata, who so far has only made appearances in pachinko and cellphone games.

 

[Gherid__lacksGPS]

I can confirm that the PS2 Tekken 5 stick does not work on PS4 with an ebay adapter, lol.

 

[CountBlack]

Red Focus just might break SF4.

TY for location tests.

HP FA Ultra lol

 

[USD]

3rd TOPANGA LEAGUE (A) ROUND 7

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv152344398 - Free period over.

Kazunoko (Yun) vs. Fuudo (Fei Long)

Spoiler

2-7 ☆●●●●○●●●

Bonchan (Sagat) vs. Uryo (C.Viper)

Spoiler

7-2 ☆○○○○●●○○

Kazunoko (Yun) vs. Dashio (Seth)

Spoiler

7-2 ☆●○○○●○○○

Uryo (Sakura) vs. sako (Ibuki)

Spoiler

7-5 ☆○○●●●○○○●●○

Bonchan (Sagat) vs. Fuudo (Fei Long)

Spoiler

7-1 ☆○○○●○○○

 

[Horseress]

You can combo using red focus into a crumple state.

Ex. Ryu st. hp -> cancel red focus level 1 (crumple) -> ultra = combo

Sounds good...Wait what?

Unless canceling red focus costs less bars than the regular focus, that will cost 4 bars, so....it's not that good

 

[toddhunter]

3rd TOPANGA LEAGUE (A) ROUND 7

Thanks again!

Unless canceling red focus costs less bars than the regular focus, that will cost 4 bars, so....it's not that good

I suppose, but we'll see, especially with how much scaling it costs. Akuma normal > demon would seem somewhat useful once a round.

 

[Horseress]

kazunoko pls

 

[casperOne]

This is actually really good

I think it's the play on "Ono" ("Oh no") that does it.

Wonder if this what the Hadoken Cabs trailer was about...Vewlix SF cabinet models went on sale today in Japan.

Spoiler

UNNNF

 

[sixteen-bit]

Dahbomb: I hear yah, man. Overall, both these systems just seem disappointing and unless something crazy comes out in the future - I can see myself skipping this gen all together. Usually there's at least one game at launch that shows the promise of the new gen - even if it's something you couldn't personally care less about playing.



Fuck it. 'Gettin a WiiU even though I don't give two fucks about the new Smash.

Get at me.

I'm eventually getting a WiiU for dat Kamiya

on the fighting game tip what is there, only TTT2?

lol

Zangief gets to combo into U1 off a normal. o_o

This sounds super fun.

EDIT: Hey, isn't this Ken's Alpha costume?

Not that's his arm, not his ponytail

 

[Horseress]

I'm eventually getting a WiiU for dat Kamiya

on the fighting game tip what is there, only TTT2?

lol

And Injustice, but that's it

 

[.la1n]

I know I'm a little late on the USF IV talk but for delayed wake up to be effective they better leave it with no visual difference between it and normal wake up. I really hope Capcom is going completely nuts with this, AE is great but I want some off the wall broken with this iteration.

 

[toddhunter]

I know I'm a little late on the USF IV talk but for delayed wake up to be effective they better leave it with no visual difference between it and normal wake up. I really hope Capcom is going completely nuts with this, AE is great but I want some off the wall broken with this iteration.

As long as it isn't just Rolento we should be good for that by the looks.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Scott Popular of FRB on 8-4 Play this fortnight, good listen. Except for him being wrong about JJASB I guess
http://8-4.jp/blog/?p=1733&lang=en

 

[commanderpepper]

New mechanic announced for Ultra
http://www.capcom.co.jp/blog/sf4/saikyo_blog/2013/11/15_7591.html

 

[Baleoce]

New mechanic announced for Ultra
http://www.capcom.co.jp/blog/sf4/saikyo_blog/2013/11/15_7591.html

Delay Standing. So pretty much what we all expected then.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Anyone going to a location test for Ultra?

 

[de1irium]

Anyone going to a location test for Ultra?

I'll be at NEC. I can't promise I'll have the patience to stand in line more than a couple times, but I'll try to take notes.

 

[Horseress]

3rd TOPANGA LEAGUE (A) ROUND 7

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv152344398 - Free period over.

Kazunoko (Yun) vs. Fuudo (Fei Long)

Spoiler

2-7 ☆●●●●○●●●

Bonchan (Sagat) vs. Uryo (C.Viper)

Spoiler

7-2 ☆○○○○●●○○

Kazunoko (Yun) vs. Dashio (Seth)

Spoiler

7-2 ☆●○○○●○○○

Uryo (Sakura) vs. sako (Ibuki)

Spoiler

7-5 ☆○○●●●○○○●●○

Bonchan vs. Fuudo

Wait, the first game counts?! I thought it was just a button check!

 

[.la1n]

Wait, the first game counts?! I thought it was just a button check!

You'll know a real SF match when you see one because they don't need no stinkin' button check.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I'll be at NEC. I can't promise I'll have the patience to stand in line more than a couple times, but I'll try to take notes.

Awesome, thank you!

 

[BadWolf]

It's not rock, Rock has red eyes, while Terry's are blue, like in that 3D model.

Seem growing older and seenig the kid he helped raised turn away from him at the end of Garou were more than his usual happy-go-lucky demeanor could handle.



Not Mary, that's Alice Nakata, who so far has only made appearances in pachinko and cellphone games.

Lol, not my day. Thanks for the corrections.

Terry's new hairstyle is definitely the same as Rock's though.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

 

[USD]

Wait, the first game counts?! I thought it was just a button check!

The first game is the advantage one player has for having a higher rank in the previous stage. So Kazunoko starts with a one-game advantage on everyone, Bonchan everyone but Kazunoko, etc. That's what the star represents. Probably should have explained that before, sorry.

And yes, a button check is just a button check.

 

[Horseress]

The first game is the advantage one player has for having a higher rank in the previous stage. So Kazunoko starts with a one-game advantage on everyone, Bonchan everyone but Kazunoko, etc. That's what the star represents. Probably should have explained that before, sorry.

And yes, a button check is just a button check.

oooooooooh, ok then, thanks
Well, I'm so glad I bought the points to watch this, amazing matches, based Bonchan <3

 

[OceanBlue]

Famitsu link: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201311/15043097.html

Delayed wakeup in Ultra SF4 is real.

Red Focus is MP + MK + Any button

No visual difference between delayed wakeup and regular wakeup at the moment.

Lol, won't that break the wakeup tech + focus backdash OS? As for everything else, we anime now.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Wait, red focus cancel is only two bars? So there's no reason to ever normal focus cancel any more?

DUDLEY SO TOP TIER NOW

Anyone going to a location test for Ultra?

I'm going to Capcom Cup.

 

[Horseress]

Lol, won't that break the wakeup tech + focus backdash OS? As for everything else, we anime now.

Man, can someone translate this interview? At least the parts where they talk about the new mechanics. Btw this link doesn't work anymore, this one does

I know I'm a little late on the USF IV talk but for delayed wake up to be effective they better leave it with no visual difference between it and normal wake up. I really hope Capcom is going completely nuts with this, AE is great but I want some off the wall broken with this iteration

Yes, 100% this. But I hope they stop it here, too much is too much
Also, the location tests starts on the next Friday in Japan, and Combofiend said they would have some change lists on the locations, so we'll have tons of news next week

 

[OceanBlue]

Man, can someone translate this interview? At least the parts where they talk about the new mechanics. Btw this link doesn't work anymore, this one does

It's the same link. Famitsu doesn't allow hotlinking.

 

[MikeBreezy92]

Played SCV after I stopped playing it for TTT2...

I just find the game disgusting now after I actually though it was good post-patch and all.

Now I just make a "eww face" when I look at the nerfed movement and guard break(crush whatever it is) and the unnecessary stuff put into the game. I think Pre-Patch the game would've been a lot better off or at least a patch that didn't nerf movement(I am including the step guard glitch in that as well)

 

[Horseress]

It's the same link. Famitsu doesn't allow hotlinking.

huh... ok then :lol

still, I hope someone translates this, if they gave this red focus cancel crumple into ultra example, then they maybe said how much it will cost.
If it really costs four bars then it will be almost useless, it's way too much for not that much damage

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Scott Popular of FRB on 8-4 Play this fortnight, good listen. Except for him being wrong about JJASB I guess
http://8-4.jp/blog/?p=1733&lang=en

I think you linked an older podcast.

This is the one: http://8-4.jp/blog/?p=1740&lang=en

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Lost Fragment]

I like this change. I've said it numerous times before, but the current version of SSF4 AE2012 is great. Let players continue to enjoy it and make USF4 the crazy broken version of SF4.

Yeah this shit is gonna be broken, but balance is overrated so let it be. I'm not too worried since they can easily patch the obviously broken stuff nowadays. Though I'm not sure how I feel about delayed wakeup and it's kind of assy if this is the unblockable "fix."

I wonder if people are gonna start exploring standing resets more because of delayed wakeup? More hit advantage on hayate so Makoto can be top 3 pls.

I also think you're right and there are going to be a decent amount of people who won't like USF4 who will stick with AE. All this stuff is gonna change the game a lot which is gonna turn some people off for sure.

 

[Nyoro SF]

That Famitsu link mentions that Hugo is a pain in the ass to balance lol

 

[Shouta]

Interesting. At the current stage, 2 Ultras reduces their damage to 60% of 1 Ultra. They plan on adjusting it as they go though. Oh god Poison is getting an Ultra that's going to be from Revenge or something that is reminiscent of it, lol.

 

[Kimosabae]

Yeah, if Capcom is not as concerned with balancing the cast with these new mechanics, I have to wonder what their business strategy is, here. They must be hoping Red Focus is a new mechanic they can market that could potentially help expand the admittedly limited appeal of this update.

Hate the idea of delayed wakeup. AE has too many prevalent defensive mechanics as is, imo, despite the popularity of vortex strategies. Players have to relearn offensive flow all over again and that was pain for the SF4 series, generally.

 

[Shito]

Oh god Poison is getting an Ultra that's going to be from Revenge or something that is reminiscent of it, lol.

I'm so aching for more Poison news.
Can't wait for the first loketest videos of her; I hope they didn't change her too much from how she plays in SFxT...

 

[Kumubou]

So it seems like netplay in Chaos Code is an actual thing that exists and is coming... soonish.

 

[gutabo]

Lol, won't that break the wakeup tech + focus backdash OS?

This is exactly what I thought. Hopefully it won't but I don't know why(cacpcpcom) I think it will.

 

[Lost Fragment]

Yeah, if Capcom is not as concerned with balancing the cast with these new mechanics, I have to wonder what their business strategy is, here. They must be hoping Red Focus is a new mechanic they can market that could potentially help expand the admittedly limited appeal of this update.

Hate the idea of delayed wakeup. AE has too many prevalent defensive mechanics as is, imo, despite the popularity of vortex strategies. Players have to relearn offensive flow all over again and that was pain for the SF4 series, generally.

The strategy seems pretty obvious to me. SF5 is still a ways off and SF4 is nearly 6 years old and stale.

Plus they've already sold new versions of SF4 with new characters/balance twice. To get people to rebuy it a 3rd time you need something more than that.

 

[Orpheus Telos]

So it seems like netplay in Chaos Code is an actual thing that exists and is coming... soonish.

That's good to see. Hopefully the netcode is actually decent.

 

[Freshmaker]

Played SCV after I stopped playing it for TTT2...

I just find the game disgusting now after I actually though it was good post-patch and all.

Now I just make a "eww face" when I look at the nerfed movement and guard break(crush whatever it is) and the unnecessary stuff put into the game. I think Pre-Patch the game would've been a lot better off or at least a patch that didn't nerf movement(I am including the step guard glitch in that as well)

Ugh. Yes. Nothing like a version of the game where strings are irrelevant due to safe backdash jank.

Also, NEC Hype is here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL2ChpmcMi4

 

[N4Us]

That's kind of a bad capture and I think she looks okay otherwise in the cartoon, but at least she wasn't Hsien-ko:

 

[MikeBreezy92]

Ugh. Yes. Nothing like a version offo the game where strings are irrelevant due to safe backdash jank.

Hey if Guard Crush wasn't in the game I wouldn't mind as much but since its there and there is not better consistent defensive option other than blocking. I'd rather have better movement in Guard Crush is there. Besides strings aren't that useful generally anyways.

 

[Malice215]

Hey if Guard Crush wasn't in the game I wouldn't mind as much but since its there and there is not better consistent defensive option other than blocking. I'd rather have better movement in Guard Crush is there. Besides strings aren't that useful generally anyways.

SCV gives you two powerful defensive options to use in just guard and guard impact. Pick one to use and you won't get your guard broken.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

USF4 release date info

April for arcades, digital download in NA/Euro consoles soon after(before EVO)

"consoles"...stay free, PC-GAF