Jormunaattori
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How does she read with welding goggles on?
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Final Fantasy XV Episode Duscae 2.0 coming in May | Trailer at E3, more at Gamescom
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How does she read with welding goggles on?
I dunno. She reads weld enough.
Praise this man.
Square Enix would never be like this without him. Whatever they are paying him it's not enough.
Who is that and what does he do?Praise this man.
Square Enix would never be like this without him. Whatever they are paying him it's not enough.
copelandmaster
Member
Nooooooo...
Makes me not want to dl 2.0 to keep a quirky little piece of game development history, or to get a second code on a backup account.
I took some neat shots on the stone archways too
. Even if we could still get out, I bet a bunch of stuff like Titan himself will be removed.Yoshi-P, and he's the man responsible for pulling Final Fantasy XIV back from the brink of death. He did one hell of a job, with "A Realm Reborn" being the best Final Fantasy title in years.
Seriously, what the man did is a massive accomplishment.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Having washboard abs, perfect looks and showing off those abs is Male Fantasy
Daisy Dukes with Tits hanging out is not exactly a Female Fantasy, just male
Fighting monsters with swords is Final Fantasy
That's the issue. No matter how intelligent she may be portrayed as, they still make her look like a sex bomb
Cindy is too sexy? It's almost like it's a fantasy game!
Edit: Man, this survey-based game making is making me ill. I can understand general gameplay tweaks that are hard to test in studio environment, but laying out surveys which characters were most liked and disliked? Come on. Why not just make the game you want to make instead of being so dependant on external survey data? It just makes your game seem more like an average product to be sold rather than geniune work of artists.
Edit: Man, this survey-based game making is making me ill. I can understand general gameplay tweaks that are hard to test in studio environment, but laying out surveys which characters were most liked and disliked? Come on. Why not just make the game you want to make instead of being so dependant on external survey data? It just makes your game seem more like an average product to be sold rather than geniune work of artists.
NullKaze
Member
Having washboard abs, broad shoulders, square jaws and a tall stature are all male secondary sexual characteristics and biologically designed to appeal to females. This is the male equivalent of a 'sex bomb.'
The reason why they could arguably be considered a male fantasy is because men (generally) want to appeal to females.
If a woman wanted to appeal to males, you bet she would consider large breasts, the perfect waist/hip ratio and long legs to be a power fantasy (along with other, non-physical attributes).
SpaceDrake
Member
Naoki Yoshida, the current Producer-Director of Final Fantasy XIV. He brought that game not just back from the brink of shutdown, but has turned it into what is currently Square's most profitable product month-to-month and easily their most visible success this decade.
Even when he first came on in 2011, he fostered a culture of openness and communication with the players. This included regular video "Producer letters". After FFXIV's massively successful relaunch, other teams have begun to do video letters as well. The Bravely team did a number during production of Bravely Second, and now Tabata and the FFXV team are doing them too.
Neff
Member
You'd be surprised. There are plenty of women who like looking, dressing and being sexy, even outright slutty.
Glad is definitely designed to appeal to girls. Ditto Noctis and his lithe-bodied, perfectly-groomed pals. And Cloud. And Squall. Tidus, Zack, Vaan, Balthier... Square has built an endless parade of incredibly beautiful men primarily geared towards appealing to female physical ideals. The FFXIII scene in Palumpolum which Snow spends near-entirely shirtless wasn't a straight male fantasy. He didn't have a lovingly-rendered chest and the best god damn nipple textures ever seen in gaming to fulfil a straight male fantasy. I don't doubt that some guys liked it, but they weren't the intended audience S-E had in mind.
Sigworthy.
Its great to see that they are understanding the faults with the demo's mechanic and updating it. It would be a different experience playing that demo on a stable framerate.
But regarding the controversial topic of Cidney's design choice...its sad that they will most likely not change that visual appearance/outfit but at least they acknowledge the issue of her showing her skin too much. I preferred a more mechanic-y design to match her personality. or just straight up a banana suit like what Cid wore in FF6.
However, I kinda agree that her presentation during cut scenes felt more sleazy than actually seeing her on outside of one (subtle camera angle, focus). I believe they will be toning down that, which is a good thing. Its better than not doing anything about it. I mean, it could have been possible for them to make her sexual appearances become some kind of running fan service trope/gag in the full game.THAT would make me cringe and feel extremely uncomfortable.
Overall it was pleasant watching them address the issues and figuring out a solution for it.
But regarding the controversial topic of Cidney's design choice...its sad that they will most likely not change that visual appearance/outfit but at least they acknowledge the issue of her showing her skin too much. I preferred a more mechanic-y design to match her personality. or just straight up a banana suit like what Cid wore in FF6.
However, I kinda agree that her presentation during cut scenes felt more sleazy than actually seeing her on outside of one (subtle camera angle, focus). I believe they will be toning down that, which is a good thing. Its better than not doing anything about it. I mean, it could have been possible for them to make her sexual appearances become some kind of running fan service trope/gag in the full game.THAT would make me cringe and feel extremely uncomfortable.
Overall it was pleasant watching them address the issues and figuring out a solution for it.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
He is the 3rd shift janitor lead.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Okay I get what you mean but consider the fact that none of the males show as much skin as Cindy herself does. As a mechanic she could dress more appropriately for her job, my problem is more with the unzipped jacket than her shorts.
They could have had their cake and eaten it with a minor change, she starts all professional and zipped up but then starts flirting with say Noctis while unzipping her jacket just a bit (is it hot today? wow!). Noctis could then look embarrassed or impressed or whatever.
Gladiolus equivalent for the above scene would be taking off his shirt entirely and flexing with perhaps a low angle to show off his buttocks. The fact that his chest is visible through his unbuttoned shirt is different from Cindy looking half way to nudity
Those women would be fans of Bayonetta, a character that defines sexual empowerment. She's sexy and sultry for her own benefit and not others
I agree with the bolded but Snow isn't always shirtless or showing off his nipples. Say he's being shown off as sexy in 3 out of 10 scenes but Cindy is sexy in all scenes
I would have no problem if Cindy started off as zipped up but then unzips and winks at the camera. That's called a tease. But in Episode Duscae her default mode is "Look, I'm so hot! "
He was the man who cried during the launch of A Realm Reborn (aka Final Fantasy XIV 2.0).
Why did he cry?
He cried because he had put his heart and soul into this game and he brought it back from the brink of oblivion. It is now one of the more successful products for Square (I am sure someone else has pointed this out already). Seeing him cry at that event was one of the most emotional, hearted scenes in a gaming world that is filled with fake PR and shitty douchebags.
AuthenticM
Member
I'm glad they are changing the direction for Noctis' voice, but I'm a little scared they are going to make him sound like a too-young hero we too often see in JRPGs.
They need to change Cindy's name back to Cidney. Have they said anything on that matter ? Surely some people complained about it in their survey.
They need to change Cindy's name back to Cidney. Have they said anything on that matter ? Surely some people complained about it in their survey.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Hmm, if XV only has a small teaser at e3 then maybe KH3 chances just got bumped unless it's meant to be extremely Eidos focused. Happy to see SE take Gamescom seriously.
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
Never thought I would see the day where a demo would be updated. I welcome it though, curious to see how the changes will pan out.
This is what I was thinking. I think some people might be disappointed by how little Japanese games actually have a presence at their conference.
Maybe they'll show off stuff like DQH and SO5, but I believe a wide majority of their conference will be focused on their western studios.
I'd also like Terra changed back to Tina and Tidus changed back to Tida*. Too bad that's not going to happen either.
*
actually not joking, I'm pretty OCD that way
AuthenticM
Member
Those characters are from games that have already been released. XV has yet to be released, and Square put out a survey so they could implement fan feedback in the full game.
There is still hope ! Maybe they'll do another survey after 2.0 is released.
They seem to be pulling the anti-Konami.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
you don't know any female final fantasy fans, do you?
Because this game is basically for them lol
i've heard of one called Kagari
she even posts on GAF
hey Kagari what do you think
oh
SliceSabre
Banned
I hope they don't listen to anything in the survey because listening to fans and designing a game around them is one of the dumbest things you can do. There will always be some vocal segment that isn't happy.
Stop bullying Kagari!i've heard of one called Kagari
she even posts on GAF
hey Kagari what do you think
oh
LOL at apology.
Stone Ocean
Member
It's pretty cool to see Tabata being this transparent alongside the latest Squeenix announcements.
Plenty of female FF characters exist for more than simple eye-candy, in fact most of them are not just for eye-candy (yes they are all beautiful, but so are the male characters), there's a reason the FF series has a huge female fanbase. It's rather disingenuous to accuse S-E, a company which doesn't shy from using a female lead for their biggest game, while applauding Bioware, the same company who designed Isabela and put Jessica Chobot in ME3 only for eye-candy.
As for Cidney, I'm fine with her design since it's not different from Gladiolus wearing no shirt at all, but I do agree that their answer wass straight ass, I hope they were just joking.
The fan outfit redesign of Cidney is better than the original, less tacky, still hot.
YankeeDonB
Member
Exactly my fear. Batman Noctis didn't bother me at all (of course, I've also got a honeyed panther baritone, despite my youthful countenance). If we end up with his sounding like Tidus or Vaan, god help me. Hopefully they keep the same voice actor but work to get a more natural conversational tone.
On the other news, camera and targeting tweaks as expected. Dodge roll and canceling out of SOME attacks should be fine as long as they keep the strategic balance (committing to an attack line should have some element of risk reward).
The split in feedback between East and West is tough - bit of a rock and a hard place there.
The fact that they're doing a substantial update to the demo is what's throwing me for a loop here. I'll be excited to try it and compare to Duscae 1, but... it's just a demo. Is there going to be another feedback cycle after that? At some point they just have to commit to a vision
without dodge canceling out of it
Shift Breaker
Member
Final Fantasy XVI directed by Hideo Kojima. The following plot twists will occur:
- The four crystals that protect the world are actually fakes, the real ones were destroyed thousands of years before the game started and replaced with fakes and the world is actually in a spiral of despair.
- It turns out the protagonist's father is a cockatrice. The mother is the fast travel menu.
- The bard character sentient fiddle (voiced by Elijah Wood) will, ironically enough, be the only one not to be played like a fiddle.
- Guess where the bomb will be!
Saiyan-Rox
Member
maybe all female mechanics in japan dress like that
If so i'm getting a car, moving to japan and then breaking said car.
it's funny how Europe main complaint was Cindy. I'll admit i'm getting a little pissed and fed up of the T&A in games/movies lately
NESpowerhouse
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
I'd play it.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Too hard? Stay free Japanese gamers.
DarknessTear
Banned
I respect the fact that they are taking feedback so seriously, honestly.
Imagine the rule #34 on that.
D
Deleted member 20920
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Sounds like a Toriyama written scenario!
While we're at it, they might as well employ the Loveplus director (who has also left Konami) and let Toriyama work with him for a waifu game.
That's actually FMV vs realtime rendering. It's the same 'version'.
I don't know for certain but judging by what they said, that's exactly what they're doing.
