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Hideo Kojima left Konami/KojiPro on October 9th, non-compete ends in December
- Thread starter Enter the Dragon Punch
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Be serious now, P.T. really started making the rounds once that one lady finished it during her stream and the Kojima and Silent Hill names popped up. To say that he had nothing to do with its hype is simply incorrect.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I think it would have (especially if it still had the Silent Hills/Guillermo Del Toro attachments). Tons of people experienced that who probably have no idea who Kojima is. PT became big because it was well made and because it had the aspect of mystery behind it. Nobody knew what it was, who had made it, how to beat it, ect... The Kojima/Del Toro/Silent Hill attachment certainly helped the extend the buzz into the upcoming game (that we never got)
I didn't say it had nothing to do with the hype, I said Kojima wasn't the draw with that game. The reason it became the little sensation it did wasn't because people saw Kojima's name (because Kojima's name wasn't even attached at first).
Dick Jones
Gold Member
Your move Konami.
I'd love to see what he could do with the mgs and silent hill.
Best of luck Kojima, enjoy your freedom from the pachinko mines.
epic Kojima plot twist
too soon?
Best of luck Kojima, enjoy your freedom from the pachinko mines.
Imagine a world where Kojima reboots Spiderman cinematic universe, accompanied by Platinum's Spider Gwyn-game.
Your move Quantic Dream
Imagine even better world where Konami swaps Kojima with David Cage!
Serpens007
Member
So there's no chapter 3 then.
Farewell Kojima, I hope he finds a good place to let go his idea beyond MGS.
Farewell Kojima, I hope he finds a good place to let go his idea beyond MGS.
meanspartan
Member
Gotcha, that makes sense. And he's been an independent contractor for a while now right? So maybe the noncompete WAS intended to last longer, but his contract ended a while ago.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I'd say it became a viral hit because:
A: It was free
B: It was a perfect game to let's play or stream. It was short, scary, and bizarre. With a very odd puzzle to solve to beat the game that was kind of random with what set off the last part.
It would have been a viral thing even if it had nothing to do with Kojima, Silent Hills or Konami.
It was created to be a viral game in every single way.
Sun Bather
Member
I can't wait for a Kojima and David Cage directed game, for ultimate nonsense.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Sure, are you going to provide a very hostile, nerve wrecking, soul crushing work environment for what looks like the last year of development or so (maybe more) or do we have to pay hired goons with part of the R&D budget too? Well, sorry... not to criticise Konami. They way they have been handling any other gaming I.P. they have clearly makes Kojima the incompetent baboon here ... sigh.
Right, but that game was what it was because Kojima was involved and was the Director.
Aizo
Banned
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
What if, what if A B and C were all Kojima's ideas. What if Kojima hadn't conceived P.T. and it didn't exist? Would we still be sitting here arguing about something that wouldn't exist?
MajinSweet4
Member
And who do you think came up with that concept?
Your move Quantic Dream
lol, is there a developer Kojima didn't take a picture with?
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
This is an end of a era.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
...and it sold a grand total of zero copies.
That's my point.
..but it might also show that Kojima should go back to making smaller scale games.. he clearly lost himself in MGS5. Everyone now wants to blame Konami.
I'm not saying the guys not a legend and that he doesn't make great games. He clearly is and clearly has.
I just don't think there's a lineup of publishers waiting with piles of money to bring him and let him be in charge.
viewtiful_dru
Member
Platinum plz
What's your point?
That the demo and announcement of KojiPro's next project sold zero copies?
Okay.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
And the game to begin with. KojiPro created P.T. and Kojima was the game's director, why does it feel like people brush that off? P.T. wasn't created in a vacuum. The fact it was so good and finding out who made it added to the hype of what could be for the full Silent Hills product.
The previous Silent Hill games after 3 given to different devs never had this hype. They were reinventing the IP and people took notice because P.T. is amazing.
MiketheBSG
Member
I bet he goes indie a la Inafune
2 and Black Flag are good games tho.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
The real Chapter 3: Peace.
Spring-Loaded
Member
...Out, Bitches.
d00d3n
Member
Nope, is obviously heading to the insurance industry.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Right, but I am not disputing that. Kojima should get credit for what PT was, but that doesn't mean his name was the draw that turned it into a viral hit. You guys are spinning it as if people are trying to discredit Kojima when that is not at all the discussion.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Someone mentioned look at the reception of Silent Hills/PT as showing the worth of Kojima.
I don't think that correlates over to how successful an actual Silent Hills game would have been.
I'd have like to see how it turned out, more so for Del Toro.. as the Kojima part of Silent Hills to me was a turn-off.. but the Del Toro part piqued my interest.
I dunno, I just saw your post that didn't even highlight why the game was what it was.
I definitely think that Silent Hills could have become something without, especially after the strong direction that Kojima gave it in P.T.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Yeah on enthusiast boards like neo gaf. Cmon dude
Ninja Scooter
Member
My post was highlighting why PT became the hit it was. Hideo Kojima's skill as a creator? yes. Hideo Kojima's name brand? Not likely. Those two things can co-exist. In fact, they likely apply to most games. Your average consumer doesn't know who is behind their favorite games.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
This is great.
Arino interviewed him in the Konami Wai Wai World episode. They both were a lot younger then lol.
When the fallout first started making news, the word was that it was Kojima and key members of his team leaving. And soon after the news broken out, Konami put out an ad hiring key members for the next Metal Gear.
So it would be fair to assume that the other key members who left will end up where Kojima does.
Heh, yeah sure.
Papacheeks
Banned
The last DMC4:SE did very well for capcom. DMC by NInja Theory even though is a pretty good game, because of the divide with fans was expected not to do as well.
The issue is with pricing for these games, and how they are promoted. I'll come back to this post after Scalebound does better than Bayonetta 1 numbers for xbox. And the reason for that game doing so well will be Microsoft promoted the shit out of it.
There is a market for those games, but if no one outside of hardcore websites and forums know about them then they wont get into people hands.
The market doesn;t know what it wants until it's played something. Know one knew they wanted Devil may cry until it came out then they made a bunch of sequels.
Sony promoted the shit out of Devil may cry on PS2 back in the day. DMC4:SE did wonders for capcom in July 2015.
I say the evidence is there that these games can move numbers it's up to publishers and platform holders to promote them and price them accordingly.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
Good news, now he can finally work on something new.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Sony is almost bankrupt, the PS4 is a flop, and The Last Guardian was cancelled.
Oh wait, none of that is true. I guess Sony has money.
lol spoilers
Triggerhappytel
Member
BELIEVE!!!
All literally posted within the same minute. Are you the same person?
Big Green Anus
Member
I wouldn't mind seeing Hideo at Ubisoft. Perhaps he can help out Watchdogs 2.
Synless
Member
Some Chinese mobile developer.
Alebrije
Member
Kojima likes big projects that need a lot of $$$$ so the only way to achieve this is to join a Big player like Sony ,MS, Nintendo , EA, SE, etc.
I read somewhere that he was done for MGS saga even before the "Konami incident" but there is a big chance his next franchise is similar to MGS but on another universe,lore,story. Anyway he will need tons of money and he can not take the risk alone.
Goldenroad
Member
I hope he goes independent, but I see him winding up with Activision or one of the big Western 3rd parties. Ubi and Bethesda are going to throw all kinds of money at him, but I don't think EA will be willing to give him the kind of freedom he would want and 2k does not want another Levine on their hands.
I don't see him going first party, but would love it if he made a Nintendo game.
I don't see him going first party, but would love it if he made a Nintendo game.
Moon_frogger
Member
blaming kojima for an unfinished mgsv seems...idiotic considering every other product he's made for them has been consistently high quality. ah well, I guess people are just mad about metal gear and need someone to blame. Nevermind konami's well documented fuckery these past few years, lets blame the only good producer they had left!
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