ginger ninja
Banned
reminds me of a poem i read recently on r/mgs:
Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Boss, that's the target.
He's coming too?
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Hideo Kojima left Konami/KojiPro on October 9th, non-compete ends in December
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reminds me of a poem i read recently on r/mgs:
Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Boss, that's the target.
He's coming too?
I remember the last time a rockstar Japanese developer split with his publisher when his latest game was rushed out in an unfinished state. He took key members of their team, they founded their own studio, and after securing a contract with a major Western publisher, they promised to put out a brand new AAA title the likes of which the world had never seen before.
Seven years after he first went independent, this was the result.
Seven years after he first went independent, this was the result.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
I wonder how long until we find out his next move. It would be cool if he went silent until E3 then all of a sudden shows up on someones stage.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I remember the last time a rockstar Japanese developer split with his publisher when his latest game was rushed out in an unfinished state. He took key members of their team, they founded their own studio, and after securing a contract with a major Western publisher, they promised to put out a brand new AAA title the likes of which the world had never seen before.
Seven years after he first went independent, this was the result.
I love Itagaki and I'd take NGB over any MGS game but they're not really in the same league. Itagaki never had the kind of sales or budget Koji got.
Microsoft can give a pretty large budget. Microsoft gives creative freedom, and will even allow you to own the IP - even if it is footing the bill. Microsoft even has a history building a team/studio around a single entity.
ginger ninja
Banned
On one hand, going sony will probably guarantee him the money, freedom and time he is so keen on. For example, look at the time they were willing to give last guardian and it's troubled development.
But on the other hand, his next game should multi-plat so he can get the good sales and fame/fans. I remember when Mgs 4 came out, it sold around 4 million copies or something and had no nowhere the hype/enthusiasm generated on the internet that MGS V has. This would also mean he would probably get to keep IP rights, which i am sure he will want. But a third party publisher will not be willing to give him all that money and leisure to develop as he pleases. Most importantly, as a fan of his work, I think his genius and craziness needs to be accessed by as many people as possible.
Let's hope someone makes an exception and he can get find some middle ground.
Your move, Doc.
Oh god, I remember that thread. I wonder if it was archived. I also wonder what the theorists think of the mgs v ending.
rockman zx
Member
I doubt anyone will put the money to make AAA games Kojima style, but I'm interested to see his next game in 2020.
Callibretto
Member
I haven't read the whole thread. But is ther any news who else from Kojima Production is leaving Konami? I'm hoping Shinkawa also left to join whatever Kojima is doing next.
PROJECTZERO
Banned
I really hope he starts a new survival horror project. P.T was so good
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I actually think Rockstar would be a good fit in a lot of ways, technology wise they have the stuff in place to let him create a game in the way he seems to be heading.
I just don't think they'd do it.
I just don't think they'd do it.
Jeevesmeister
Banned
Hello! My name is Hideo Kojima. You may know me from my decades of work in the world of videogames! Well, now that I've struck out on my own, I can finally make the game I've always wanted to, free from corporate constraints! I've always wanted to make an open world tactical stealth espionage game, with a unique cast and mechanics you've never seen before. I call it...
Alloy Cog!
And here's where you come in!
Alloy Cog!
And here's where you come in!
Cave Johnson
Member
How much did they fund max payne 3 again? I remember something over $100 million or so.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Uuuuhhhhhhh....is he talking about Call of Duty or Metal Gear?
Shadow_Lord
Member
ginger ninja
Banned
not mine to begin with but sure thing buddy.
Did anybody notice that the newyorker article said Kojima said he can't "for now". I really hope he goes in detail when he opens up in a few months.
Love Deterrence
Member
yes he can make open warudo garbage while Konami gives us real metar gia sorridou games
akidnamededdy
Banned
Kojima wouldn't get nearly as big a budget if he were recruited by Sony and his games' sales were restricted to their ecosystem (realistically one platform). Dunno why people seem to think he'll get a license to go hog wild.
Exploratory
Banned
Your move Yugi boy!
No seriously fuck the fanboy shit let him get a rockstar deal with a publisher. Let everyone enjoy his games.
No seriously fuck the fanboy shit let him get a rockstar deal with a publisher. Let everyone enjoy his games.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
I hope he'll write something good for someone new. Maybe more grounded and less nonsensical. Do that and, if with Rockstar support, he'd probably put out something fantastic, especially if it were open-world (which I feel is MGSV's only merit).
privitsan02
Member
Should try Activision-Blizzard.
Avenger54321
Member
dead
I betting that kojima will go and make his own company and studio. Maybe like platinum games studio.
Dude, got the connections, the fame/status and probably the ideas to do it. Mabye not the funds yet, lol. But im sure he rather go for complete control than be in the mercy of some suits again.
Dude, got the connections, the fame/status and probably the ideas to do it. Mabye not the funds yet, lol. But im sure he rather go for complete control than be in the mercy of some suits again.
Your move, Altair.
Actually, I wouldn't mind a Kojima Assassins Creed game
Truckondo2.0
Member
A game set in Japan. You must take out Konami's evil leaders in order to restore gaming bliss across the planet.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Yeah, if one of the big publishers got him i think thats an announcement you save for E3.
Last I heard MGSV made its budget back and some on its first day of release.
Nocturno999
Member
...and a "simple" demo made by KojiPro revived the Silent Hill franchise just like that.
It's very hard to believe that Konami wanted to get rid of Kojima.
RevolverRoden
Member
Thing is Kojima can release an unfinished game and still get a 93 MC so there's nothing to worry about :^)I remember the last time a rockstar Japanese developer split with his publisher when his latest game was rushed out in an unfinished state. He took key members of their team, they founded their own studio, and after securing a contract with a major Western publisher, they promised to put out a brand new AAA title the likes of which the world had never seen before.
Seven years after he first went independent, this was the result.
heh jk mgsv is awesome
Falcs
Banned
Mexican Sting
Member
"Hellooo, ay am Daveed Cage, pleese play mah movee"
I cannot fuckin' wait to hear what he has to say. Hopefully he won't be all respectful salryman and not talk about it. I want the DIRTY DEETZ. WHOSE WIFE DID YOU BONE, KOJIMA.
eyeball_kid
Member
I'm really looking forward to seeing what kind of game ideas Kojima has had stored up for years. I don't really know how feels Kojima about leaving Konami after three decades (and under these horrible circumstances), though I can guess, but I think it's really going to be a blessing in disguise for his career, artistic spirit, and most importantly his mental well-being. Hopefully.
As for where he should end up, I'm not sure. I guess that depends on the kind of games he wants to make. It'd be interesting to see him try some smaller-scope titles, but I suspect he still has huge aspirations, so Sony might be the best bet. He would also probably out-do Star Citizen in funding if he put up a Kickstarter.
As for where he should end up, I'm not sure. I guess that depends on the kind of games he wants to make. It'd be interesting to see him try some smaller-scope titles, but I suspect he still has huge aspirations, so Sony might be the best bet. He would also probably out-do Star Citizen in funding if he put up a Kickstarter.
LiquidSolid
Member
Being restricted to one platform lowers the game budget, as does not having to build a hugely scalable engine from scratch for it.
The only thing I think will certainly happen is that he'll found his own independent studio and look for a major publisher to fund him. That's because I don't think he'll want to work under the thumb of another corporation again, especially if he doesn't have the kind of freedom he had at Konami (it took him decades to work his way up to that point). It would give him the freedom he wants and for the publisher, it would also ensure that he was taking a lot of the risk (because if he goes way over budget, his studio will go bankrupt unless provided more funding).
The focus on Sony is a bit ridiculous but I do see them as one of the most likely options, because their takes on game development align really well with his (creativity, creative freedom, story focused games, new IPs, etc). Microsoft I see as one of the least likely, for a variety of reasons (including their position in the market and complete irrelevance in Japan).
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