franklyshankly
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Zelda is certainly going to be an excellent game (very rarely is a Zelda title not). It also appears Horizon is set to be an excellent game. I don't know what the problem is supposed to be.
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Horizon: Zero Dawn | Review Thread
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MegaSackman
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Well, there are fanboys among the press too.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Can we ban the word zelda from the ot of this game
Just fanboys being fanboys
and white womenz
Neither do I, now that I think about it more, unlike Battleborn v Overwatch there's no overlap because you have to either buy a PS4 for Horizon or a Switch for Zelda.
Edit: Forgot Zelda was on the WiiU, but so did everyone else.
Mario, Persona and maybe even Red Dead are still coming.
Comparisons tend to show up to anchor a product to a positive reference point. When a new shooter is introduced it's a "Halo killer" because everyone used to think of Halo as top of the heap when it comes to console shooters. New phones would be "better than iPhone" because that's a similar reference point.
So for fans of an established franchise to crow about how it's better than Horizon is an enormous compliment. It means that, for gamers, Horizon has successfully achieved enough mindshare to be worth comparing yourself to. I just know that I'll be enjoying both games next week and don't much care about how they compare. I want them to be different experiences.
So for fans of an established franchise to crow about how it's better than Horizon is an enormous compliment. It means that, for gamers, Horizon has successfully achieved enough mindshare to be worth comparing yourself to. I just know that I'll be enjoying both games next week and don't much care about how they compare. I want them to be different experiences.
Breh we haven't even played either of them, and there's still like 10 months left to go...
More_Badass
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I don't agree.
Horizon is the newest open world action RPG and it has bows. Zelda is going open world, and it has bows. They release closely to eachother
That's it. Being compared to Horizon is not being used as a compliment
AyraSutoraifu
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I berieve you.
To me, the success of each of these titles only contributes to my feeling that this quarter is one of the best in gaming in a long time. What a fantastic start of the year.
I can't say I agree. At least in the preview that was posted on the last page, the comparison really just sounds like they're downplaying Horizon for... No apparent reason whatsoever except for easy fanboy bait I guess.
Maybe if it was in a Horizon preview where they compare the game to Zelda, and not by saying "Horizon seems dumb compared to this other good game that doesn't actually have that much in common with Horizon and is compared to just because they release so close to each other" I could buy this line of thinking.
I will raise hell if after all these years Persona 5 won't end up being my goty
e: well maybe not raise hell. I'll sit in my room and be bummed about it for 15 minutes and then I move on to something else.
MegaSackman
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I think she means that downplaying Horizon is aknowledging it as a threat therefore it's a compliment (in a weird way).
Kazuo Hirai
I really want everyone to know how much more Titanfall 2 sold than Nioh. It was a staggering amount.
Ehhh, you forgot the biggest problem: too many great PS4 exclusive this year
Look 2016 gotypicks
UC4 got most of Readers' Picks, its Critics' Picks is close to Overwatch
But as GOW and other great games might release this year, it would disperse poll
It's likely that Zelda get more Critics' Picks, and more Readers' Picks because of this
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
it's just a prediction. they are fun to go back and see who got it right.
If RDR2 does come out this year, it might shake things up especially since it's releasing closer to award cycle. You also have Mass Effect releasing next month which split GOTY awards from RDR1 back in 2010.
I think Horizon will win more awards because it's a Sony exclusive like Uncharted 4. Overwatch won nearly every major award but U4 won smaller sites. Zelda will be second with RDR2 being a close third.
DriftingSpirit
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I think another thing is how people take it when one is said to do something better than the other. Like, it isn't, "Oh, this seemingly great game does X better than this seemingly great game". It is, "Damn! Yikes!".
Like, something being better in one doesn't make the other poor. A mess.
Like, something being better in one doesn't make the other poor. A mess.
MegaSackman
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Do not disregard games quality, we don't know how good Mass Effect Andromeda, Read Dead Redemption and Zelda Breath of the Wild are. The only game available right now is Horizon Zero Dawn.
Nightengale
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My advise is honestly not to stress too much over comparisons being made. We ourselves as fans end up making comparisons due to *insert reasons* and naturally writers in the same head space will do so too, depending on the circumstances.
BreezyLimbo
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I have the solution
Horizon |OT| Breath of the Wild
Zelda |OT| Zero Dawn
There we go. Everyone wins.
Horizon |OT| Breath of the Wild
Zelda |OT| Zero Dawn
There we go. Everyone wins.
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Horizon *only* has an 88, the one time that a game with less than a 90 won GOTY was DAI, and it was because of the weak competition that year, I mean, I know, Bayonetta 2, but we all know that it wasn't going to be elected by the mainstream media.
I think that Horizon is going to be that game that appears in almost all goty nominees lists, but will barely win any, just like Titanfall 2 / Dishonored 2 last year.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Red Dead Redemption 2 will likely eat everyone's lunch if it makes it out this year, especially being close to award season.
miller.skippins
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It's cool that zelda is good but since i am not getting a switch anytime soon until it actually got some games i care about and i already had horizon preorder via psn....i only care about horizon at the moment..
LastMinuteHero
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Unfortunate but true. Just like we predicted before
Did the media just conveniently forget about Sm4sh and MK8 as well? I don't really care about them but I thought that they reviewed very well and had very positive fan reactions.
http://www.gamerevolution.com/featu...he-wild-is-like-the-witness-meets-dont-starve
yeah opinions
lets stop this zelda talk
Nightengale
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You could say it's reflective of the natural inclinations of game critics when it's time to give awards to games, but generally there is a trend where sports/fighting/racing games are put in their own bracket, no matter how good they are, because the more... "expansive" genres are the ones in the tier-1 of being primed for GotY awards.
That's my perception anyway. Games like Forza Horizon 3 will always naturally be a afterthought if there are other games in other genres that are seen as equally as good.
Twilight Princess
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Can the zelda people go back to your own threads please.
FusedAtoms
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The posts really just need to start being ignored at this point
To be fair I think it's something people need to prepare for. As much as it sucks to say, there will probably be a pretty quick turn around backlash against Horizon for not being as deep as BoTW. Regardless of Horizon's quality on it's own. It's kind of how these things are sometimes.
News outlets will begin to run with stories on this comparing the two to no doubt generate clicks and controversy.
Now that you mention it, I did notice that there's generally a distinct lack of fighting/racing games when it comes to GOTY picks. It's a shame that games within those genres are sidelined because some of them are pretty amazing games.
Hope it's a long review then, cuz I love ambient music.
No one needs to prepare for it in a review thread for Horizon though...
FarFromAnyGame
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RDR2 will win the GOTYs.
in 2018.
Triggerhappytel
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I think it'll definitely be the best 'listen to conversations while riding slowly on horseback' simulator' this year.
Just a prediction. I will buy and enjoy both day one personally.
I was gonna quote Ridesh and tell him avbout Smash, but you have a good point.
I hope it does come put this year.
Still looking at every year's GOTY picks, it doesn't seem that Nintendo games are very popular there. That's why I think Horizon can put up a good fight.
Ally of Justice
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/joking
In a more serious note, I'm really excited about this. Since the reveal trailer and gameplay at E3 they caught my attention, and was one of the games that made me buy a PS4.
I haven't seen any other trailer or gameplay feature in order to get in completely unspoiled, and hoping to discover the world. I just know I'll be playing in a post-apocalyptic-prehistoric world with robo-animals that I can hunt.
I cannot wait to play it next week.
HeisenbergWW62
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Agreed
DriftingSpirit
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I think I'm just going to buy this and preload it. I never really buy full price anymore but what the fuck, might as well treat myself. Between this, Nioh, Yakuza, it seems the least likely of the three to drop in price soon. Plus you know, launch hype and OT participation privileges - always kind of fun.
LastMinuteHero
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That's not what the dudes in the early impressions thread said
But yes, enough of this comparison
That's fair, I don't think the Review thread needs to get bogged down by it. I just think it's something we will no doubt have new threads about in the following weeks.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Dreams will be goty 2017
BlackBuzzard
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It will be all the games!
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