More people seem to buy digitally on PS4 than Xbox One.
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January 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes February 10th
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More people seem to buy digitally on PS4 than Xbox One.
bananafactory
Banned
counting his threads
That's duvet it goes, I guess.
"You leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone."
Software for Jan / Hardware for jan
This is my guess. They found the positive nugget.
Aquamarine
Member
Never mind.
Chobel
Member
English isn't my native language, but isn't that the same as saying they sold more software than any other system?
Never mind... too
The fact that I have both systems and the ps4 downloads and installs night and day differently than my Xbox 1
Also when destiny released
Xbox1 was sales leader in physical hardware but there was more users in ps4
Graphics Horse
Member
I believe It means software:hardware ratio of xone is higher than other consoles.
i.e. 1000k software with 200k hardware is better than 1000k software with 300k hardware.
Same. But the increase in sales over the holidays naturally will make more software get sold no?
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Nevermind.
No. I only buy physical copies. I do the same with movies. Digital is not my thing.
Jimmyfenix
Member
No UK mention?
bananafactory
Banned
Yeah I have both as well and the PS4 digital experience has been far, far superior to that of the XB1.
But I don't know if that will be a big deal to many.
Freeman
Banned
That is a very odd spin.
Ahh, that's the explanation that makes sense. Thanks.
If this is what that quote is supposed to mean, it doesn't even necessarily mean that there were more TOTAL sales, just a higher ratio of software:hardware. Maybe.
Not bed.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Seems to me it's MS telling devs they're still worth supporting ...
Officerrob
Banned
Console bundle was likely the major factor there
I know the disc install times are very different but how different is the time for downloading games? It's usually pretty fast for me on XB1 (I'm on a 80 Mbps connection though).
I know there were problems this past Holiday season but I think that was mainly due to all of the free digital game bundles (servers getting hammered).
I suppose this means PS4 sold more software overall, but Xbox One had the best tie ratio. I...think.
Graphics Horse
Member
It's what they're paid for!
I could be wrong but I don't think they'd say 'per system' if they wanted to say it was THE system with the most software sales.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
And how could you possibly back that up?
bananafactory
Banned
Yeah I think they are just talking about attach rate.
Yeah... But until we get digital sales counted it really doesn't say much (imo)
Destiny was bundled with the system. Those units didn't count in NPD.
You can't just say the PS4 has more digital sales without numbers. One could argue that since the installs on the Xbox One are slower, more people are inclined to digital download there. The flawed logic can flow both ways.
Aquamarine
Member
I misread + misspoke. Never mind.
If you could get rid of that quote, that would be great. Don't want to mislead.
slavesnyder
Member
No, or?
If the first console sells 1000 Systems and 1000 games, it's one game per system.
If the second is selling only 10 Systems and 100 games, it's 10 games per system.
So, the second one wins...?
TheOnePercent
Member
I believe in Phil Space-heater.
Megatron
Member
per system would seem to Indicate xb1 only.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Top spin 5 will be awesome guys
So two entirely unsupported reasons, got it.
Are you referring to the NPD month in which Destiny released with the whole "XB1 sales leader but PS4 has more users" things? If so you aren't including PS4 bundle sales of which there were many in September.
The PS4 may very well have a larger percentage of the audience that purchases digital content, especially because it has a larger install base. At the same time you can't exactly say that without having at least a shred of evidence... of which you seemingly have none. Hate to be stingy but that's how these threads go.
Officerrob
Banned
Devs are not going to abandon XB1
Yeah I don't see that happening either but more specifically that we have gotten 3 different sales estimates from 3 different sources that should be in the know. If UniSoft is right wouldn't that put x1 sales under 10 million according to the them?
But It would imply over 140k? Right?
Hence why I said we can say with some confidence that Xbox One will be over 140k this month.
We can't give an exact figure at all.
It's also likely that AMD and Take Two are using the same source (IDG) and that Ubisoft are using their own internal estimates.
Therefore, all we can say is that Xbox One could possibly be between ~9.5m sold through and ~11.5m sold through as of end of 2014. Based on the actual data we have from NPD / Gfk + trends we could possibly estimate that X1 sales will be over ~10m. But we can't say for sure.
All we can say is PS4 was over 18.5m
Install and download speeds.
If you buy the same game on both systems at the same time... (something I'm not going to do just to prove a point) chances are you will be up and running on ps4 long before you're on x1 (judging this from the drastic difference I see in both my systems)
Jimmyfenix
Member
looks like it
bananafactory
Banned
It's hard to say because the XB1 doesn't actually show me my actual download speed or how much it's downloaded, it just gives a generic "Installing" % which lumps together both the download and install.
I've just generally felt that from the time I hit download to the time I'm playing is faster on PS4. It doesn't help that my experience preloading FH2 and Halo on XB1 was quite unpleasant, FH2 unlocked like 4 hours late (almost 3 am) and Halo had to redownload the entire thing for some reason.
Anyways - it's crazy hard to speculate whether or one console base goes digital more than the other
Wait, what?
Facism
Member
is that more software overall or are they talking average per system?
Trying to figure out the usual microsoft pr obfuscation this month
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
They already are if you don't focus entirely on AAA titles.
Example:
XONE sells 100 k and 200k software, making for a 1:2 ratio for hardware/software respectively.
Ps4 sells 200k and 300 k software, making for a ratio of 1:1.5 for hardware/ software respectively.
You can see XONE has higher average software sales per hardware unit, but in absolute numbers sells 100k less. I think that is the spin we are seeing here from MS pr.
Average per system. See post above mine.
Considering the responses in this thread, it is working! Many will now misinterpret it as highest total software sales, which is not what it means.
CosmicQueso
Member
Why would they do that if they have absolutely zero need to do so? There is no undercurrent anywhere outside of the indie space for ceasing support of xone.
Unsupported reasons? Run a search on the forums, there is no argument as to which system is quicker when it comes to digital purchases.
Yes I guess I'm talking about the month were destiny was a digital pre order code for Sony and the physical copy was being offered for free by Microsoft. Yeah I remember that well
shadowsdarknes
Member
So XB1 > PS4 software attach rate for January?
Guess that's something.
Guess that's something.
Chobel
Member
Officerrob
Banned
A bad indie policy does not equal devs abandoning a system because of sales