MujkicHaris
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Metroid Prime 4 was most not "Switch 2" hardware
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You know I'm right. You know Switch can do a lot better.
Kataploom
Gold Member
I mean, tastes are a thing... I know for sure when I say Xenoblade 3 is the best looking game I've played that I mean character design, art, environments and how the Switch handle all of that, not gonna say it has better visual fidelity than FF7R or something like that... And mind Switch is in waaaaaaaay better position compared to PS4 than Vita is to Switch.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
switch 1 confirmed my friends
Astral Dog
Member
The trailer looks like it was running on original hardware.
honestly im impressed they managed to keep MP remastered visuals on the bigger environments in Metroid Prime 4, i heard it was running at 720p on one 'source' while another claimed 900p , at least that would explain the upgrade in visuals
i think it looks like a decent upgrade over the previous games, and its among the prettiest Switch games, Retro did a good job now whats left to see is the new game mechanics and how Metroid Prime evolves (one theory from fans is that the title and logo refers to some kind of time travel or change in space )
honestly im impressed they managed to keep MP remastered visuals on the bigger environments in Metroid Prime 4, i heard it was running at 720p on one 'source' while another claimed 900p , at least that would explain the upgrade in visuals
i think it looks like a decent upgrade over the previous games, and its among the prettiest Switch games, Retro did a good job now whats left to see is the new game mechanics and how Metroid Prime evolves (one theory from fans is that the title and logo refers to some kind of time travel or change in space )
Kataploom
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Morrie’s wig shop
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That title……
But, I sure hope not cause….ya know…
For a switch game, I can’t wait. Plus we all know this is gonna have some kind of “switch 2” enhanced mode. That is of course if there is backwards compatibility for the Switch’s successor
Mwhahaha..
Robb
Gold Member
MujkicHaris
Member
Giving Killzone: Mercenary higher framerate and resolution would make it look like a Switch 2 title in terms of visuals. That game is a miracle of engineering. And now, people with Nintendo profile pictures want me to believe MP4 is breaking new ground with that trailer. It literally looks like a smartphone game. BOTW is impressive. Xenoblade too. MP4? Not really.
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Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
true
diffusionx
Gold Member
Crazy how people already KNOW that this is just like BOTW and there will be a Switch 2 version (even though we don’t even know what the next Nintendo console is) and they KNOW the Switch 2 version will be massively enhanced, just like BOTW (except BOTW was not massively enhanced).
HofT
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Halo 4 came out in 2012 and ran at 30 fps/720p
Daniel Thomas MacInnes
GAF's Resident Saturn Omnibus
I'm assuming that Metroid Prime 4 will be released on both consoles, just as Zelda had previously done in the past. After all, it was widely assumed that this videogame was being created for the new system, whatever it ends up becoming. Honestly, bringing it to the original Switch is just a very nice surprise.
Visually, it looks fantastic. But I'm the kind of old person who's happy playing 8-bit Atari games and still thinks Soul Calibur and Dead or Alive 2 on Dreamcast look perfect. All videogame hardware has peaked eons ago.
Visually, it looks fantastic. But I'm the kind of old person who's happy playing 8-bit Atari games and still thinks Soul Calibur and Dead or Alive 2 on Dreamcast look perfect. All videogame hardware has peaked eons ago.
Zephyranthes
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Nintendo would have to be positively insane to have a high-profile flagship game releasing in 2025 not be playable on Switch 2, for the same reason that Twilight Princess and BOTW were also cross-gen....they want people to actually buy their new console.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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Exactly thats pure cope from Nintendo/Metroid fanboys. Go to any YouTube video of MP4 and read the comments ...so many acting like this looks so good and "is it switch 2" etc just purely based on their hype for mp4
I don't think it looks terrible but it looks soooo similar to the mp1 remaster ...not impressive! Anyone capable of being honest with themselves should be able to see that. You may like the overall look/art direction but this isn't graphically impressive and certainly isn't Switch 2 quality
And people who think it'll look crazy better on Switch 2? Lol ...it'll be higher res that's it
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Can Sony pls save us from this bullshit Switch and PC Handheld segment.
I'll be Day 1 for a modern Playstation Portable.
I'll be Day 1 for a modern Playstation Portable.
cash_longfellow
Gold Member
But like, can we stop even talking about “Switch 2” at this point like it actually exists? For the last three years on these forums people have been acting like it’s a fully announced thing. Friendly reminder, we have seriously never heard a peep from Nintendo about this thing actually being a thing. I have no doubt they have something cooking up, but the rate at which people here just assume that Switch 2 has everything happening, legitimately without the damn thing even being confirmed by Nintendo is becoming disturbing to me at this point.
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
Do you know what oligopoly is? So forget it, Nintendo needs to exist asus rog ally too, there is only a dispute between two bars on the same street, sometimes not even that.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Metroid prime has an energy other shooters don’t have.
Kataploom
Gold Member
It is Halo 5 tho, but here's the thing: Metroid Prime 4 is gonna be technically more advanced than Halo 4 just because Switch is more powerful, but also because it's coming way later, in a time where rendering techniques have gonne through a whole new gen after X360.
Switch games graphic pipelines are more akin to PS4/Xbone's than to PS360's, but running in a way less powerful in terms of brute performance, so it's gonna look much better than Halo 4 and yet not as good (in terms of fidelity) than Halo 5.
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Kataploom
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Isn't that a sign that brute power isn't THAT important? I mean, it is kinda important (PS5, XSX), not THAT important (XSS, Switch) or TOO important (PC) depending on your target audience, it's ok not to fall into one of those groups, not that they're doing something wrong, just a different way to approach the market.
Lokaum D+
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yeah i kind agree with you, but at the same time they are charging U$70 ( next gen price ) for 2 gen old games and the lack of power on their consoles really hurts the overall experience for me, the IQ is so bad that i prefer to emulate my games than play as intended on switch, dont get me wrong Nintendo games are top notch but, playing Zelda, Odyssei, Pikimin for exemple in 4k alone is another experience.
imagine playing this Zelda instead of what we got
I know that gameplay is king, but c'mon, its time to Nintendo get into higher fidelity and frames rates, i u want to charge me next gen price offers me better IQ and fidelity.
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Robb
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What do you mean? They’ve already confirmed the Switch successor/“Switch 2” exists and that it will be shown before 31 March 2025.
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Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
This is some idiotic nonsense. If you genuinely think Merceneries looks better than MP4, you are making shit up.
nordique
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Kataploom
Gold Member
Switch has always been capable, it's just that it doesn't have enough raw power to push for everything but doing a very smart optimization it can punch a lot above its average. I've said several times even on Metroid Prime 4 threads that it's more akin to 8th gen consoles in terms of capabilities, just with much lower specs (like RAM, CPU, GPU, etc. but modern capabilities are there, just like Vita was for PS3 or so)
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
Halo 5 (xb1) blows the Nintendo Switch out of water
The most important thing is that Metroid Prime 4 will be an excellent full price game despite the graphic quality, for those who have courage ok.
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This doesn’t change much for me. The game looks like a carbon copy of the last games. How much better will it look realistically.
HofT
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You're right that is Halo 5 and MP4 looks comparable to it.
nordique
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JimmyF
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Pretty sure it was ouya footage, you should get your eyes checked.
Hero_Select
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KXVXII9X
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I've noticed this too and I'm really confused.
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
the reason is evident, don't get me wrong they will sell millions of the new Zelda
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diffusionx
Gold Member
Yes, Nintendo announced successor hardware, but we have no idea what it is, what it will be, what they are doing with it, it's all rumors and speculation right now. People assume it is going to be "Switch 2" as in the same hardware design and style just more powerful, but we don't actually know that.
I played a lot of Killzone Mercenary before the server shutdown. It is a great looking portable game but come on man. Tiny levels, smudgy textures, etc., what can you expect out of basically iPhone 4 hardware, but you are reaching. The performance is also totally unacceptable by today's standards whereas this will almost definitely run at locked 60fps.
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Robb
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That’s not true. They essentially confirmed that “Switch 2” is exactly what is to be expected when we think about what’s coming.
Radical_3d
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*game looks like ass.
Gaffer: “maybe I should do a thread clarifying this is not running on an unreleased hardware”
Gaffer: “maybe I should do a thread clarifying this is not running on an unreleased hardware”
LordOfChaos
Member
I know that gameplay is king, but c'mon, its time to Nintendo get into higher fidelity and frames rates, i u want to charge me next gen price offers me better IQ and fidelity.
I can't understand why people perpetuate this myth that Nintendo doesn't do PC rendered trailers, the BoTW one clearly was and that was claimed to be for the Wii U when even the Switch wouldn't hit that image quality, foliage density, lighting, and ToTK from the above DF video they said looked SSR-ey in the trailer. Many many years later they admitted the BoTW reveal was a PC target render.
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Perrott
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I wish that actually existed
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Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
MP4 runs at 900p-60fps a similar game is less than 720p at 30fps, so you need a Switch with twice the power or witchcraft.
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recursive
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Only thing I would question is the framerate. It looked pretty smooth (60fps) and I have some doubts about switch being able to do that but we shall see.Of course not, the graphics and gameplay combine to make the whole experience
There isn't a single person here who plays games just for the graphics.
Your statement is disingenuous, it tries to imply that graphics don't matter when it comes to Nintendo games, but it definately still does. Would you be happy if metroid 4 looked like this and played at 15fps?
Looking at something like the recently released Mario wonder shows that Nintendo is just very crafty and smart in building games in art styles that it's systems can run well.
It's an amazing looking game, it's not just the gameplay that make it great.
Prime 4 as shown is no doubt a switch game, Nintendo doesn't normally bait and switch. (Oops)
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