OrbitalBeard
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Me too. Knowing the core MH team is behind this has me pretty excited and confident it'll be something great.
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Monster Hunter: World (PS4/XB1 early 2018, PC later, directed by MH4 lead planner)
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Me too. Knowing the core MH team is behind this has me pretty excited and confident it'll be something great.
I don't really give a shit about the hardcore/purist arguments. Monster Hunter needs an accessible cross-platform online installment to get a better foothold in the west. This might not be that game, but who knows, maybe it is. I'll wait to see if it's a good game before I write it off.
Gnomepowered
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I am really dissapointed in the general art design, especially the colors. Despite owning 3 onwards, I have never gotten THAT deep into MonHun, but I love the games and part of the reason is how colorful and goofy the world is in comparison to most fantasy stuff. Seeing it so drab was hugely dissapointing.
That said- I was having stream issues, and guess I was reading the environmental interactions as equivalent to traps, just with fun animations. With that in mind, most of the other changes sort of fell in line from what I would expect from a MH on a home console. Traps have elaborate animations instead of a standardized one; the world doesn't need to be segmented; that means paint balls don't make as much sense, and you don't need them because they could be replaced by something like the fading footprints seen in the trailer. Tracking makes sense for a hunter and is doable using in game assets instead needing to abstract it; similarly not having to abstract the hunt and approach means stealth makes sense. Rewatching though, they don't look that much like traps, and that makes me doubt my whole thought process.
Honestly though, as comfy as a lot of that stuff is- the segmented areas, the heavy abstraction of bombs, traps, etc, the paintballs- those things always felt like the technologically limited version of what the designers originally saw in their heads, and I could deal with it changing, especially if more traditional entries continue on switch. The fact the animations look "bad", as some in this thread say, actually gives me hope that they are prioritizing predictable, readable animations in combat, just like in the main series, and that the combat might be fun. If it's fun to play, I can deal with the differences, but it still won't feel like MH.
Edit: since part of why I have had trouble getting deep into MH is because I hate having to lug around my Circle Pad Pro to play with dual analog, I'm excited for it to be on PS4 (and hopefully Switch, even if it's just localized Generations XX) where controls will be more comfortable. That might be a bigger benefit to some than you would think.
That said- I was having stream issues, and guess I was reading the environmental interactions as equivalent to traps, just with fun animations. With that in mind, most of the other changes sort of fell in line from what I would expect from a MH on a home console. Traps have elaborate animations instead of a standardized one; the world doesn't need to be segmented; that means paint balls don't make as much sense, and you don't need them because they could be replaced by something like the fading footprints seen in the trailer. Tracking makes sense for a hunter and is doable using in game assets instead needing to abstract it; similarly not having to abstract the hunt and approach means stealth makes sense. Rewatching though, they don't look that much like traps, and that makes me doubt my whole thought process.
Honestly though, as comfy as a lot of that stuff is- the segmented areas, the heavy abstraction of bombs, traps, etc, the paintballs- those things always felt like the technologically limited version of what the designers originally saw in their heads, and I could deal with it changing, especially if more traditional entries continue on switch. The fact the animations look "bad", as some in this thread say, actually gives me hope that they are prioritizing predictable, readable animations in combat, just like in the main series, and that the combat might be fun. If it's fun to play, I can deal with the differences, but it still won't feel like MH.
Edit: since part of why I have had trouble getting deep into MH is because I hate having to lug around my Circle Pad Pro to play with dual analog, I'm excited for it to be on PS4 (and hopefully Switch, even if it's just localized Generations XX) where controls will be more comfortable. That might be a bigger benefit to some than you would think.
Honestly, my take was that it was too early a build to be an actual mission, instead being effectively a test environment adapted a bit for a cinematic trailer.
Which would then possibly suggest reasons why they didn't actually show any co-op
But the release date seems way too soon for that theory to be correct, so I dunno.
Neoleo2143
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Neat. Seems like a progression in some ways from Monhun XX. I prefer the traditional design admittedly but I can't say this will turn out badly as spreading out seems like a good idea for the MonHun series which I think is a good idea so long as the traditionally designed games continue onward (Pls MH5 be in the works).
Western targeted soft reboot?
But I'm pretty sure we'll see 5 too (for Japanese market)
Gamer @ Heart
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Paid by Sony > simultaneously release Xbox version with PC later? Nah.
cyber_ninja
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Oh snap, xbox got a Japanese made game. I believe in Phil Spencer.
Cipher Peon
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Monster Hunter: World looks great 
I've always wanted to get into the MonHun series but didn't like the ones I've played, but hopefully this one gets to me! It looks so cool and fun and good!
I've always wanted to get into the MonHun series but didn't like the ones I've played, but hopefully this one gets to me! It looks so cool and fun and good!
Capcom would have to be brain dead to bet the farm on the franchise in the west by making it the fifth installment, and as poor as their financial decisions have been in recent memory, they aren't that goddamned stupid.
TheGreatLugia
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I wish they had shown some greatsword combat. Combat is the bread and butter of Monster Hunter for me, so I don't feel like I have enough information to give my thoughts on it.
These were basically in previous games through the use of Paintballs/Armor abilities and Smoke Bombs.
MegaMelon
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Jesus Christ. This is so disingenuous. The core of MH combat has remained the same yes but there have been many additions to it. You people who insist on changing for the sake of change just don't understand why people like this series. It's like asking for pokemon to stop being turn based or sumthin.
Well on that note, I think I've had enough for now. These threads are gonna be hella rocky lol.
hanspampel
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So if this is the mainline and only MH
Why pull it of from Nintendo?
I get you want it on Ps4, Xb1 and Pc, but why not Switch, too?
Is there beef between Capcom and Nintendo?
Why pull it of from Nintendo?
I get you want it on Ps4, Xb1 and Pc, but why not Switch, too?
Is there beef between Capcom and Nintendo?
Zombegoast
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I guess the rumors are true with Sony being dicks on Nintendo.
A Newly Discovered Content? Or am I reading too much on this?
Adding to OP.
A Newly Discovered Content? Or am I reading too much on this?
Night Angel
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Looked cool to me, but I need to see some actual combat.
This could easily be attributable to the spec difference between the Switch and everything else.
neurosisxeno
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I think they made a grievous error with the presentation of this game. They clearly wanted to showcase how interactive the environment is, but a little more time dedicated to the gameplay--especially the combat--would have gone a long way. It still looks like a MH game, but I kind of get peoples concerns. I don't think a minute of footage of the PC running away from big monsters was the best choice. I might actually pick this up though, and I imagine the appeal will be there for western audiences.
Little Green Yoda
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Excited to see how well the formula holds up without zones/loading.
I mean... It really is the combat. Getting into the zone fighting a monster in MonHun 4 is some of the most satisfying fun I've had playing a game. The slow pace with very deliberate, weighty attacks and dodging gave the whole thing a serious rhythm that, when you got into it, felt really damn good. The fact that this trailer has almost no actual attacking is a gigantic, flaming red flag.
chrisPjelly
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Is this at the showfloor by any chance?
Just because it hasn't got the five doesn't mean another game will. This is by the mainline team.
Jawbreaker
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Absolutely! We know the game is in good hands. :]
TalentAlwaysWins
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It looked incredible. Can't wait to finally a MH game that was build from the ground up for HD gaming.
Yes I'm so excited it's been too long.
whalleywhat
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So they evolved the game in any way.
OdinDemonZero
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PC it is
I told ya'll there was no fucking way Itsuno was directing Monster Hunter. The dream still lives!
GameCenterXDS
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Did no one watch the same trailer i did? The experience within the environment looks amazing. It looks like it will be fun to just creep around the forest and watch jaggies fight a rathalos. Stealing eggs will be crazy fun in this. You guys know that was Co op right? It zooms out and 3 more players are flying in.
But it's basically going back to the pattern we saw before the series was only on 3DS. It is being made by the MH team. Unless they really want to experiment with this one I guess.
Highest a home console exclusive MonHun has ever sold was Tri, and that was 1.9 million copies on the Wii.
Good Guy Gone Bad
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I've been wanting MH to make the jump to HD and to consoles with competent online systems, and I'm glad it finally has happened.
Capcom is definitely chasing the co-op open world-ish trend that is proving to be very successful for the Ubisofts (Ghost Recon/Division) and Activisions (Destiny), so I'm sure they'll find some success in the western markets if the game is even mildly enjoyable to play. And it'll sell in the East on name alone. I understand exactly why they've done what they've done.
Capcom is definitely chasing the co-op open world-ish trend that is proving to be very successful for the Ubisofts (Ghost Recon/Division) and Activisions (Destiny), so I'm sure they'll find some success in the western markets if the game is even mildly enjoyable to play. And it'll sell in the East on name alone. I understand exactly why they've done what they've done.
I don't see how any rational person could watch that trailer and jump to the conclusion, "We didn't see ____ in the 4 minute E3 trailer! It's ripped out along with everything special about Monster Hunter!"
Why is such a purist chunk of the fanbase throwing themselves off a cliff right now?
AcademicSaucer
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They need 2 million before April 2018 and they launch early 2018 IIRC
Ironically, I've seen plenty of Monster Hunter fans complain the games from 3 onwards were too colorful in comparison to the first 2 generations.
Psycho_Mantis
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SuperStiltzkin
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I literally cannot. MH doesn't have stealth mechanics. These MH diehards are bullshitting if they even consider what's in MH a "stealth mechanic." Monsters can see you behind fucking rocks before they've even spotted you. There is no stealth mechanic. There never has been until now. Smoke bombs are not an elegant stealth mechanic.
clay_ghost
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The rumor did said that Sony paid for the game to be not on Switch only lol.
Looks more like a devolution to me.
DmC, SFV, Dead Rising 4, the way they have treated Ace Attorney have all shown otherwise.
Honestly, and obviously it's too early to tell, but here is my wildly subjective viewpoint - this looks like the Monster Hunter I've always to play since Monster Hunter 1 and 2.
Hear me out. I played Monster Hunter religiously on the PS2 when it first came out. My favorite thing about the first couple Monster Hunter games is that you really felt like you were hunting. It was about discovery. Planning. Preparation. Exploration. Creating a plan, and then executing on that plan. But the more I played the series, the less this seemed to be stressed. The PSP Monster Hunters added more weapons and zones and monsters, but there weren't many new gameplay additions beyond combat. And perhaps it's because we've gotten better at the game, but I feel like the most recent additions to the series were just about walking up to the enemy and beating the shit out of it (or dying repeatedly). The combat is great, but I no longer really feel like I'm hunting.
Here's what I saw in this new trailer: Using markings and signs in the environment to organically find the monster. Using camouflage to sneak up on the monster. Using the environment to set traps for the monster. You can sort of do some of these things in the series already, but not to this scale, and not with this ease. These are the kinds of things I've always wanted to see done right in a Monster Hunter game.
How good the combat is remains to be seen, but honestly I'm really impressed with what they've shown. I get why people say "this doesn't look like Monster Hunter" to them, but to me, this looks more like the Monster Hunter I grew up with than any of the recent games in the series. That's my take on it, anyway.
Hear me out. I played Monster Hunter religiously on the PS2 when it first came out. My favorite thing about the first couple Monster Hunter games is that you really felt like you were hunting. It was about discovery. Planning. Preparation. Exploration. Creating a plan, and then executing on that plan. But the more I played the series, the less this seemed to be stressed. The PSP Monster Hunters added more weapons and zones and monsters, but there weren't many new gameplay additions beyond combat. And perhaps it's because we've gotten better at the game, but I feel like the most recent additions to the series were just about walking up to the enemy and beating the shit out of it (or dying repeatedly). The combat is great, but I no longer really feel like I'm hunting.
Here's what I saw in this new trailer: Using markings and signs in the environment to organically find the monster. Using camouflage to sneak up on the monster. Using the environment to set traps for the monster. You can sort of do some of these things in the series already, but not to this scale, and not with this ease. These are the kinds of things I've always wanted to see done right in a Monster Hunter game.
How good the combat is remains to be seen, but honestly I'm really impressed with what they've shown. I get why people say "this doesn't look like Monster Hunter" to them, but to me, this looks more like the Monster Hunter I grew up with than any of the recent games in the series. That's my take on it, anyway.
Aaronrules380
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They literally ignored the most important aspect of the series for the majority of it's fans
They're clearly concerned about its chances in Japan by not naming it 5 outright, and unlike Call of Duty, I'm not expecting them to come up with fun subtitles anytime soon that generates subseries of subseries.
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