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NHL Off-Season 2017 |OT| Weve Been Here Since October
- Thread starter Fata1moose
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Fata1moose
Banned
Stepan replacement.
So what has happened so far this off season?
1. Vegas shot craps. The had favorable expansion rules but failed to impress. Minor surprise considering the opportunity.
2. Price got paid. So will McDavid. No surprise. The price of elites.
3. UFA defencemen got paid. No surprise. Even mediocre D-men are valuable commodities in today's NHL.
4. Old man Marleau found a sucker to give him 3 years and a NTC. Big surprise. Will he even get 40 points next year?
1. Vegas shot craps. The had favorable expansion rules but failed to impress. Minor surprise considering the opportunity.
2. Price got paid. So will McDavid. No surprise. The price of elites.
3. UFA defencemen got paid. No surprise. Even mediocre D-men are valuable commodities in today's NHL.
4. Old man Marleau found a sucker to give him 3 years and a NTC. Big surprise. Will he even get 40 points next year?
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Will Therrien follow?
he's already looking for season tickets on kijiji
Thats a funny way of spelling Seabrook.
why do you take pleasure in doing this to me
also sorry I didn't visit your city last week after all
#1C DAVEY DESHARNAIS
Columbus
Edit: Actually looks like he is going back to the KHL per Brooksie
Kreider-Zibanejad-Zuccarello
Vesey-Hayes-Nash
Grabner-Miller-Buchnevich
Puempel-Desharnais-Fast
Andersson
McDonagh-Shattenkirk
Skjei-Smith
Staal-Holden
DeAngelo
Lundqvist
Pavelec
I imagine we'll see a couple more depth forward signings before the offseason is over since it's not really clear just how many of our AHL guys will be NHL-ready this year (including Lias Andersson), but what appears to be the main squad is now assembled.
Desharnais' contract is $1m, 1 year, by the way.
Vesey-Hayes-Nash
Grabner-Miller-Buchnevich
Puempel-Desharnais-Fast
Andersson
McDonagh-Shattenkirk
Skjei-Smith
Staal-Holden
DeAngelo
Lundqvist
Pavelec
I imagine we'll see a couple more depth forward signings before the offseason is over since it's not really clear just how many of our AHL guys will be NHL-ready this year (including Lias Andersson), but what appears to be the main squad is now assembled.
Desharnais' contract is $1m, 1 year, by the way.
Devils are a waste of a franchise
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Damn it
All reports are that he's going to have a chance to compete for a roster spot in camp this year, and he seemed to impress during development camp last week, for whatever that's worth (not much). I don't expect him to actually make the team, but I do think there's a relatively decent chance to see him in blue at some point this year. Our prospect pool for forwards is crazy thin right now, so he pretty much immediately jumps near the top of the list, unless he proves to be a bust.
It occurs to me that by losing Radulov, we essentially traded our only top flight D prospect for nothing. Drouin essentially replaces Radulov's offense rather than adding to it. So Drouin in and Radulov out is almost a moot point, and we're out a top D prospect.
ril gud GMing, BargainBin.
ril gud GMing, BargainBin.
Fata1moose
Banned
That may be true for this season, but Drouin is younger than Radulov and COULD end up being a better producer in the long run. Which would be even better if you didn't trade Subban for a dinosaur, no misalignment there...
So you'd rather we have Sergachev and Radulov still walks away and leaves us with a massive hole on offence?
And don't forget you might lose Markov, and you signed Price for 8 years and you haven't done anything to address the center position.
Did I forget anything?
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Hmm wonder what the Canucks will look like on opening night:
Baertschi-Horvat-Eriksson
Sedin-Sedin-Granlund
Gagner-Sutter-Boeser
Gaunce-Burmistrov-Dorsett
Extras: Megna, Rodin, Boucher, Chaput, Goldobin
Edler-Stecher
Hutton-Tanev
Del Zotto-Gudbranson
Weircioch-Biega
Markstrom
Nilsson
Looks like a lottery team but the abundance of forwards should give the young guys a shot at the roster.
Baertschi-Horvat-Eriksson
Sedin-Sedin-Granlund
Gagner-Sutter-Boeser
Gaunce-Burmistrov-Dorsett
Extras: Megna, Rodin, Boucher, Chaput, Goldobin
Edler-Stecher
Hutton-Tanev
Del Zotto-Gudbranson
Weircioch-Biega
Markstrom
Nilsson
Looks like a lottery team but the abundance of forwards should give the young guys a shot at the roster.
Yeah, to shut up!
Montreal picking on the colored guy for speaking his mind again ;(
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Solo, would you rather have a young, elite forward who has yet hit his prime on your team or a aging Russian,that's still good but, he is on the decline?
I kinda wish Montreal picked up Jagr..instead of Hemsky but that's just me
I kinda wish Montreal picked up Jagr..instead of Hemsky but that's just me
CreeperBlocks
Banned
KernelPanic
Member
They're gonna need $$/cap space to resign a few people in the next few years, not to mention EK.
I don't really mind replacing Methot with Claesson, still have Phaneuf and if Chabot plays well he can take the bottom pairing and give Boucher no reason to play Blowmorewiecki except injuries.
Got Pageau and Dzingel to resign this summer too.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
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I'm embarrassing myself trying to stifle my laughter on the train. Lol!
Yeah. If he sucks in camp and is outplayed he will go the way of the Gerbe and fuck off to Europe I guess.
I give no fucks about it really. Maybe the Habs will want him back at the deadline. Could prolly use those ~30 or so extra points right about now lol.
Edit: Pretty sure one of Holden or Staal with be gone. Staal would be magic and require retention. Also Bereglazov will definitely be on the opening night roster unless terrible in camp and sent back to KHL. So I'd pencil him in on the bottom right next to Staal (likely, sadly) or Holden. Or he'll be a 7th they rotate in. Will be interesting if 2 or more young guys impress enough to get looks. Have to think Graves at least is knocking on the door soon for that bottom left slot. Would love his size and shot down there.
McDonagh - Shattenkirk
Skjei - Smith
Graves - Bereglazov
Holden
DeAngelo
Would be pretty damn fun.
He's young, they're hopeful.
He's 22. And he's a 40 point guy. Seems like a fine contract to me.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Friend of the thread 19 & 21 wrote PK in hotdogs today
An A- for effort
Oh, I'm not bagging on Drouin. I love the guy and I think he's pretty much instantly our best player and will be for years to come. But Radulov was our best forward this year, and if we'd signed him, we'd have a deadly Top 4 set of wingers in Drouin, Radulov, Pacioretty, and Galchenyuk/Gallagher/Lehkonen.
But instead we let Rads walk so instead of maybe lining Rads and Drouin up together on a fucking lethal line, instead Drouin replaces Radulov, at the cost of our only blue chip defense prospect. That stings hard.
I'm saying that BargainBin, in addition to being an awful handler of assets, has completely no idea or vision for how to build the team.
- Can't give Radulov an extra year - gives Shaw term. Shaw.
- Says he doesn't believe in windows - ships off our young franchise defense for Weber and signs Price for max term because the window is shutting quickly
- Says you can't acquire a #1 centre via trade - sits in the foxhole while Seguin, Carter, and Johanssen are traded
Our window is permanently propped open with a flimsy twig that could shatter at any time.
Most pessimistic Ive been about the team since Bergevin took over. 5 years now into it and his 5 year plan seemed to be to wait 5 years and come up with another 5 year plan.
Unhandled Exception
Member
Stop giving away our premium discord content for free bask
you have to look more deeply than the counting stats to see Burakovsky's value. he gets only the 8th most average PP time among Caps forwards (half as much as MoJo!). He only played 13 minutes per game last season in all situations.
he scored 0.55 Pts/gm last year despite almost all of his points coming at 5v5 due to minimal PP time, and getting relatively little ice time overall.
the Caps probably should have bet on him more with longer term and slightly more AAV, but their cap situation is a disaster so the bridge deal is understandable. it's likely Bura makes them regret it after a couple years though.
Dimitri Filipovic had a tweet about how the Caps kinda screwed themselves by giving Oshie all that money, when it would have been wiser to lock up Bura for a lower cap hit, and he probably would have been much more productive than Oshie if given his role. I have to agree.
he scored 0.55 Pts/gm last year despite almost all of his points coming at 5v5 due to minimal PP time, and getting relatively little ice time overall.
the Caps probably should have bet on him more with longer term and slightly more AAV, but their cap situation is a disaster so the bridge deal is understandable. it's likely Bura makes them regret it after a couple years though.
Dimitri Filipovic had a tweet about how the Caps kinda screwed themselves by giving Oshie all that money, when it would have been wiser to lock up Bura for a lower cap hit, and he probably would have been much more productive than Oshie if given his role. I have to agree.
Coldnoodle
Member
Perfect summer for me would have been leaving Mojo unprotected and going 4-4-1 in the expansion draft, which meant keeping Schmidt.
Instead we lost Mojo and Schmidt for nothing that will help us now.
Oh and Oshie won't shoot 23% this season.
;_;
oh leafs didn't sign toninato?
woops
@zschneiderKBJR
Former UMD captain Dominic Toninato says he won't be signing with Toronto, will become free agent on August 15.
@zschneiderKBJR
Maple Leafs used all available contracts, Toninato said. That's where talks stalled, couldn't get deal done.
woops
@zschneiderKBJR
Former UMD captain Dominic Toninato says he won't be signing with Toronto, will become free agent on August 15.
@zschneiderKBJR
Maple Leafs used all available contracts, Toninato said. That's where talks stalled, couldn't get deal done.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Markov should stay with us
Kinda wish we still had Gerbe somewhere. Just to see Gerbe-DD-Zucc at least once in training camp or something lol.
And I agree with Red. DD ain't lasting on our 4th. We'll get someone else or he'll rotate in for an injury if he's in the system. From Lindberg to DD? Fast is crying himself to sleep tonight.
Sadly I think we may see him on the 3rd for a bit.
edit: If we can't find anything else, I'd try to get Lindberg back. I'd offer a 2nd if needed... Vegas seems to give players away for whatever picks. They would probably like this, unless they're really psyched to have him for a long time. =/
It's not ideal either but Lindberg can slot up to 3rd if we need it. And maybe Andersson is ready to try the 4th by then. Bottom six would survive with some mix of Vesey, Lindberg, Grabner, Fast, Puemple, Andersson I'm pretty sure. Then we can try to get someone higher up before the playoffs if we've had a good season and feel competitive.
And I agree with Red. DD ain't lasting on our 4th. We'll get someone else or he'll rotate in for an injury if he's in the system. From Lindberg to DD? Fast is crying himself to sleep tonight.
Sadly I think we may see him on the 3rd for a bit.
edit: If we can't find anything else, I'd try to get Lindberg back. I'd offer a 2nd if needed... Vegas seems to give players away for whatever picks. They would probably like this, unless they're really psyched to have him for a long time. =/
It's not ideal either but Lindberg can slot up to 3rd if we need it. And maybe Andersson is ready to try the 4th by then. Bottom six would survive with some mix of Vesey, Lindberg, Grabner, Fast, Puemple, Andersson I'm pretty sure. Then we can try to get someone higher up before the playoffs if we've had a good season and feel competitive.
There's a lot of wishful thinking here. AV is still the head coach. Staal and Holden are in the top 6 unless they're literally physically unable to play. DeAngelo should be in the top 6 but will probably spend most of his time in the press box, assuming he isn't skipped over for Steven Kampfer. Bereglazov is a major X-factor. I don't think he's coming here to fuck around in the AHL, but he'd have to put in a major showing to make the roster cut, and it would likely come at the expense of DeAngelo.
I also feel like I haven't heard a whole lot of positive buzz on Graves recently. I wouldn't be surprised to see Day get a call up before he does. I imagine we'll have to see how Day does in Hartford this year, though.