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NieR Automata PS4 demo available now
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Seems like every time I or someone else mentions they'd like to play the original Nier, the response 100% of the time is something to the effect of "oh, you don't want to play the original Nier because of x and y and z". FFS, I just want to play the game without having to buy another game console, and it would make sense that releasing a new game in the series warrants a remaster of the original in this age of remasters. I'll decide for myself if it's good or not. Worse games have been remastered.
MrCaliaztec
Member
That was so great. The genre blending was fantastic I am just in complete awe I am so looking forward to this. This is gonna be something truly special... it's a shame it's gonna be niche as shit but maybe just maybe this will have some legs.
This really made my evening haha and I'm just waiting for the fun of the night to start being Christmas Eve and all!
This really made my evening haha and I'm just waiting for the fun of the night to start being Christmas Eve and all!
While true, just like in the previous demos, the reason they are putting the combat front and center is to show how much better it is than the original game, since that was one of the more glaring complaints, along with its other technical underpinnings. Thus, that was also why Platinum being on the project was a very good proposal.
Even during the demo though, we saw a lot of different Nier elements, isometric camera angles, 2D perspectives, platforming , 2D sidescrolling shooting, top down bullet hell shooting ect.
The other elements will surely come in the final game based on the menu which has a lot of RPG mechanics locked off
I'm not saying people should not play the original Nier. I'm saying that SE might not want to take the gamble with a remaster because of the original game's controversial nature which, despite the cult following, is understandable. Hence why Automata is not "Nier 2" and why the story is supposedly completely stand alone outside of callbacks for previous folks.
You can play the game right now if you want to, on the hardware it came out on.
But expecting a remaster might be too much to bank on.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Putting some more time into the game, I can approve of it.
Took awhile to come into grips that really no action game will compare to DMC4's combat, but once you sort of accept that, turn your brain off and just enjoy Platinum's over the top derpy combat, it's amazing in it's own right.
The game also just screams speed run. From the movement, the no load times, the soundtrack etc.
It's a damn shame the demo segment has so many cutscene interruptions. I hope you can turn all that off especially on new game + or mission replays.
Took awhile to come into grips that really no action game will compare to DMC4's combat, but once you sort of accept that, turn your brain off and just enjoy Platinum's over the top derpy combat, it's amazing in it's own right.
The game also just screams speed run. From the movement, the no load times, the soundtrack etc.
It's a damn shame the demo segment has so many cutscene interruptions. I hope you can turn all that off especially on new game + or mission replays.
BackwardCap
Member
The artwork looks like it came straight out of Bravely Default. Any other similarities?
whew, liked nothing about that demo. the environments were tiring to look at, the combat was fine if the camera wasn't shifting every other combat sequence and the gratuitous panty shots. goddamn. it just felt like hot garbage. Just didn't dig this at all.
I just don't fuck with it at all.
I just don't fuck with it at all.
Same artist for most concept art.
DangerMouse
Member
Damn, the second phase of the boss track that was also used at PSX is godly, I've listened to it a bunch of times:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1qyjLdnivI
This track would have fit Mitsuda's Xenogears/Xenosaga like a glove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNaT3lrSfPk
The track toward the end definitely had some nice Ghost in the Shell vibes as was mentioned earlier in the thread, especially those vocals.
Yup, I really like the small taste of the English voices.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1qyjLdnivI
This track would have fit Mitsuda's Xenogears/Xenosaga like a glove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNaT3lrSfPk
The track toward the end definitely had some nice Ghost in the Shell vibes as was mentioned earlier in the thread, especially those vocals.
Yup, I really like the small taste of the English voices.
ShockingAlberto
Member
So nier has been platinum into boss rush like there other games
Yeah not at all like those times in Nier where you kept going to the same places and bosses would just happen after you fight enough enemies
Serenade_King
Banned
Don't know how much of this has already been talked about but my biggest surprise and what now has me really excited are how stages are made with Dark Souls like short cuts. Like the first NieR had its dungeons but once you clear them there is really no reason to return to them and are fairly linear in its progression. I know that there has been talk of Nier:A being a open world game but I took that as just being an bigger concept of NieR1 with its plains and dungeons, and this being more focused on action I imagined that once you clear a dungeon you would be done with it but that doesn't seem to be the case judging by the demo.
In just the demo I found 2 shortcuts, a elavator that didn't work and a door (maybe a second elevator? Don't remember right now) meaning that areas will be more maze like rather than "just kill everything on your way until reaching the boss" kind of feeling which I love! Like already even playing the demo feels like a dream since I never thought NieR would get a sequel but also having actual exploration in search of shortcuts and secrets, 3 playable characters, awesome combat with fantastic animations, and also already showing diferent playstyles with the flight unit at the end... it honestly feel too good to be true. My mind keeps telling me that there most be something wrong with the game, like it being super short, or having the worst fishing minigame in history, or Drakengard 3 final boss part 2, or at the end of the game you have to reformat your PS4 hard drive and erase your PS+ cloud saves to save humanity.
I know I'm being silly but this game honestly feels too good to be true.
In just the demo I found 2 shortcuts, a elavator that didn't work and a door (maybe a second elevator? Don't remember right now) meaning that areas will be more maze like rather than "just kill everything on your way until reaching the boss" kind of feeling which I love! Like already even playing the demo feels like a dream since I never thought NieR would get a sequel but also having actual exploration in search of shortcuts and secrets, 3 playable characters, awesome combat with fantastic animations, and also already showing diferent playstyles with the flight unit at the end... it honestly feel too good to be true. My mind keeps telling me that there most be something wrong with the game, like it being super short, or having the worst fishing minigame in history, or Drakengard 3 final boss part 2, or at the end of the game you have to reformat your PS4 hard drive and erase your PS+ cloud saves to save humanity.
I know I'm being silly but this game honestly feels too good to be true.
I have both consoles and NieR for both, and it's still the last-gen game I would like to see ported to the PS4 the most. So yeah, I agree.
Plot twist: there's only one place with npcs and you explore it briefly once in the entire game, the "open world" is just empty space to connect battle arenas, you only get to boar drift for a short 30 seconds sequence, campaign is 6 hours long at most in true Platinum fashion, RPG aspects in general are really light to almost non-existing, the plot is underdeveloped in favor of the improved gameplay mechanics.
I mean that still sounds kinda good
Really enjoyed the demo, not many ARPGs out there play this smoothly. I was originally going to wait for a discount but I think this may push me to pick up the game at launch. Looks pretty promising if they deliver on the RPG aspect.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Don't take my boar drifting away 😣
IISANDERII
Member
It means the controls are sluggish and they shouldn't be.
potatohead
Member
Didn't like the far away fixed camera angles parts but everything else was awesome slashing so satisfying
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
play on a higher difficulty.
ramoisdead
Member
So I finished playing the demo the other day. Overall, I liked it. Sure it was a little bit on the easy side but I did enjoy the boss battles. And the soundtrack...the fucking OST is the star of the show.
I might pick this up on the PS4 since there is no date scheduled for the PC version. Goddammit, Squeenix.
I might pick this up on the PS4 since there is no date scheduled for the PC version. Goddammit, Squeenix.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
It would be a nice bonus after automata releases if it sells enough to be considered worth it. Nier is a flawed experience but I do feel like it's worth having. But from squares prospective..... yeah maybe wait and see if you just made a bunch of new fans and then match that demand if so.
Or you could just rerelease it for me, I don't care if you don't fix a thing.
manfestival
Member
played the game on ps3 some time back cause it was 7 dollars because of the hype. I did beat the game (and I hate everyone that stated to go into new game+). This demo just proves that the game has no place in my life. I really wanted to like the first but it was so bad
I wonder if Automata will do something about alternate endings. You usually can't convince people to play games again to unlock stuff or extra content especially for reviews. It just so happens that a lot of that is critical for every single one of Yoko Taro's previous games.
And its not enough to just youtube these types of things, since multiple playthroughs are integral to the experience with different things happening.
And its not enough to just youtube these types of things, since multiple playthroughs are integral to the experience with different things happening.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Well he's not going to catch everyone no matter what he does. Some people just won't care. Either way a game showing to the player that it has multiple endings isn't new or something that is hard to pull off. It's just up to the player to follow through.
Kingdom Hearts 2 too.
In fact with different forms and magic there might be even more air combos approaches than Nier.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
You have a cupple of ways, first of all story wise they could do a nier and give you a hook line after the credits. Say "learn the backstory of xxxx" and then it's enough to know it's new content. Being a platinum game it's already replayable as hell, so there are tricks you can do. And honestly if all else fails, just do the easy thing and hold the credits until you get all the endings. Sure people will call the last one "the true ending" but that's always been debatable.
manfestival
Member
Yeah, start by not putting 50 minutes of text with music as part of new game plus
How do you know this is a structure that can't be revisited? Counter point: There are locked doors in this demo like any other Nier dungeon the first few times you go in there. Previews show a different structure than any other Platinum game. It's Nier stuff.
How about this?: This demo is a combat vertical-slice. Would this demo end with you just leaving and then going back for more? People would have lost interest without anything at the end of the demo and not seen some huge robot action.
So nier has been platinum into boss rush like there other games
You can let me spoil you how it's not if you haven't kept up with the game despite seemingly being a fan of the first one.
If you want to play the first game for the story and music entirely since the combat in there is uninteresting to say the least,besides the shifts in gameplay style that are intersting, then i would honestly recommend you read or watch an LP instead and maybe also buy the soundtrack.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Well just go take a look in the demo's menu to get a feel for how the system works as a whole:
Under the "skills" menu, you'll see two categories, "pod programs" and "plug-in chips"; the former are basically special attacks/magic for the pod buddy, (each of which is upgradable as it has an innate power level attached) but the second set is basically the rpg-style upgrade system, which has 4 distinct sub-categories all under an umbrella "memory stack" system where every chip occupies a certain amount of capacity (the number in parentheses after each chip).
Then of course there's the weapon tab which contains multiple types, pairings, and the weapon story system that works in conjunction with each weapon being upgraded to a more powerful form.
It seems pretty extensive, and even better very dynamic as once defined chip layouts (stat builds) can be saved and switched between easily.
Bottom line, examining the various menus in the demo should leave you in no doubt as to what sort of game this is.
MillionStabs
Banned
I thought that was fine but I'm definitely in the minority
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Cryy who is a youtube who specialize in MMOs shares his thoughts on the demo, and it was very interesting. He has sold me on the game, but now I really want to play the first Nier. Is there any chance of the first Nier coming to Steam?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jixx0bi0OEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jixx0bi0OEo
geordiemp
Member
Playing the demo made me realise how much I loved Ninja Gaiden series, and how controlling the camera with R3 gives me such a greater sense of battle. I want to be able to look where I want all the time.
There were moments in the demo I liked, but then it went to 3D or the camera was taken away from me and its jarring and I dont like it. Much better if it was all 3D and full camera control.
Even using a pad I found swapping shoot to L1 essential. That way I could comfortably hold it down the whole time I was in combat.
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