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NJPW G1 Special in USA [OT] Billy Gunn Main Events in 2017
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sf2fanatic
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It shouldn't take a main eventer 30 minutes to defeat a jobber. If only i took out of this, Okada was trying too hard and maybe auditioning for something else.
HashtagLapsed
Member
The curious thing about The Elite leaving Bullet Club is all the merch deals they have with chains like Hot Topic now. If their branding entirely changes it could cause issues.
Even if the execution was iffy these dip-toe-in-the-water US shows have been a financial success for New Japan with the fast ticket sales and those giant merch lines, I expect they're already looking into a schedule of 2018 US dates. If they don't have a show during WM week for instance I'd be shocked.
Rawr Its Ry
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I feel like ZSJ's style will be great for tourneys like this and G1...his style won't put the other dude at risk of getting dumped on their fucking head by accident and it looks like it shouldn't be that taxing as well compared to a strong style like ishii
Sir_Crocodile
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Mate, when you have a chance you HAVE to watch the english language version on NJPWworld. JR, Barnett and production botched so often it was like watching Sincara vs Yoshi Tatsu.
serenewarfare
Banned
I would say WWE has had probably five or six PPV main event matches better than that this year.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Bullet Club Red vs Bullet Club 2020 vs Bullet Club GFW
Main event picked up towards the end but Cody was gassed at the end and almost botched the ending. I liked the match better than Okada/Fale, but that's about as far as I'll go.
Show was still better than 90% of WWE/NXT stuff, but man the production really hurt. I'll still take JR over any non-Mauro commentary even with his flubs, but they were still embarrassing. Next year needs to be in an arena twice the size and they need to pay whatever it takes to get the full NJPW production crew over here.
I wouldn't be surprised if he genuinely forget he is under WWE contract tonight.
Show was still better than 90% of WWE/NXT stuff, but man the production really hurt. I'll still take JR over any non-Mauro commentary even with his flubs, but they were still embarrassing. Next year needs to be in an arena twice the size and they need to pay whatever it takes to get the full NJPW production crew over here.
I wouldn't be surprised if he genuinely forget he is under WWE contract tonight.
excelsiorlef
Member
So fucking what?
Best Cody match is right up there with praise as best Transformers movie
You're right this match should never have happened but the length of the match has nothing to do with the fact that Okada carried Cody.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I hope JR is good for the women's tournament.
Better matches:
Cena vs AJ
Which was still better than the dome show match
Rawr Its Ry
Member
Also I feel like Tama Tonga should be BC leader before Cody. He's a BizCliz og and hopefully he can come into his own during this g1
serenewarfare
Banned
Personally, I think every big NXT show this year has been better than tonight as an overall show.
SallyIsNow
Banned
LMFAO
What?!
theaffection
Member
What he say??
excelsiorlef
Member
Easily.
Not even close.
From production to overall match quality ti even announcers.
ehh good for him.
Must be refreshing to not have Vince or Dunn screaming in your ear about how they need to promote the brand or fucking hashtags.
HashtagLapsed
Member
It was probably a lot better live. The camera work and production in general were bad and it took away from the show a bit.
Happy to hear you had a great time.
serenewarfare
Banned
Those two, plus the Men's MITB, Eliminations chamber, and the Extreme Rules 5-way were all undoubtedly better than the Cody/Okada match.
RedHoodedOwl
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I knew Okada can pull a good promo in English, but I didn't know Gedo spoke english.
UberTag
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Which one of these three is the Los Boricuas equivalent? I want to cheer for those guys.
Yeah...with that I am going back to the main thread.
People just posting drunk now
theaffection
Member
The last half of the show was strong enough of an impression imo, it stronger then most American wrestling products (in-ring wise)
Yep, its only up from here. Tickets went pretty quick too. Exciting times
talking about how they called it as a sport, no commercials during a match because "that would be stupid",
SallyIsNow
Banned
I hope the camera/sound crew get their shit together for tomorrow.
I guess that can be argued. I very much enjoyed this match at the tail end.
Burrito Club
serenewarfare
Banned
sf2fanatic
Member
So how much louder in person was the Cody hate?
The only people the Bullet Club has that can be future stars are Tama Tonga and Marty Scurrl, and Marty seems pretty embedded in with The Elite.
If BC can get some good new members, Tonga as the new leader would not be that bad at all.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
NXT has inconsistencies in the week to week but they always knock it out of the field with their Takeovers no matter the buildup. Tonight was mediocre at best whilst NXT this week put on an amazing main event.
Evening Musuko
Black Korea
They really need to bring the TV Asahi folks over if they're serious about having a US show. This show just felt off production wise. I hear a lot of people saying it's ROH crew, but you'd think after doing tons of ROH shows with NJPW talent, they'd at least have an idea how it works. I wouldn't be surprised if NJPW just hired some cheap local company.
If it's a one off, then whatever, but if they're serious, they really need to step their game up because NJPW might be the latest Japanese company to try to expand into the west and completely miss the point why their product has a following overseas in the first place.
It was loud as fuck
serenewarfare
Banned
Really I think NXT's strength is the length of the show. Takeovers are like two and half hours long at best, so it's all killer and no filler. They don't have the "get everyone on the show" mentality.
blackaroni
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I lost interest in the show during the Elgin/Omega match. Im gonna try to finish the show tomorrow.
reptilescorpio
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Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I agree to an extent but I think that sells the undercard short. Even Eric Young kills it when he's given the shot.
excelsiorlef
Member
Not all main events but here's my WWE did it better list:
Cena vs Styles
Elimination Chamber match
Men's MitB
5 way Extreme Rules #1 Contender match
AoP vs DIY Ladder match
Both Roode vs Nakamura matches
Owens vs Reigns at the Rumble
Pete Dunne vs Tyler Bate
Roode vs Itami
AoP vs Revival vs DIY
AJ vs Shane
Plus arguably:
Asuka vs Ember Moon
Goldberg vs Lesnar
HashtagLapsed
Member
I wonder if Tanahashi vs Gunn will be better than Okada vs Cody.
Tanahashi is pretty magnificent.
Tanahashi is pretty magnificent.
SallyIsNow
Banned
No way, Lapsedo. Cody Sucks, but Billy Gunn SUCKS.
Except Goldberg vs Lesnar, that was definitely better than this and any of those matches on that list.
I can mostly agree with this, yeah.
Except Goldberg vs Lesnar, that was definitely better than this and any of those matches on that list.
excelsiorlef
Member
No because Gunn is even worse than Cody and Tana isn't at 100% and isn't Okada 2017 level.
Sir_Crocodile
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excelsiorlef
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Goldberg vs Lesnar is probably the greatest sub 5 minute match of all time
Rawr Its Ry
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Tana is up in age and coming off an injury
..plus I don't think Billy can go. at least for Okada and Cody both of em are young and can goreptilescorpio
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Will be really interesting. Gunn can sell great but Tanahashi isn't in the best condition right now. A lot will depend on Gunn putting in 100% IMO. Could potentially be a really fun match if they worked enough out ahead of time.