Coulomb_Barrier
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No, this is why MS came up with that 'almost sold-in to retailers 10m' the other day spin BS,
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NPD Sales Results for October 2014 [Up3: All of Nintendo's 3DS million sellers]
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No, this is why MS came up with that 'almost sold-in to retailers 10m' the other day spin BS,
Nope. It might be possible with Dragon Age and given how they seem to be close to EA with that title and maybe with COD but they also have to compete against Smash Bros, which has already outsold pre-orders for Mario Kart 8.
The way people at Microsoft talked about sales and statements made before NPD for October came out is just fantastic. Masterful way of trying to soften the blow of not being #1.
The real question is what is Microsoft going to do when they are actually the top selling console for a month? Insane parties?
The real question is what is Microsoft going to do when they are actually the top selling console for a month? Insane parties?
HORRORSHØW
Member
seriously. what the fuck was their problem? too much of a hassle to quote? fucking idiots.
leatherhat
Member
Good to see the Evil Within so high, it's a really great game.
I think we might be getting a bit too hung up on the more minor quantitative aspects.
To me the system is at the point where it wouldn't really matter if it sold 55K or 85K this month, but that the overall message is that while the system responds to software, overall it's still not going anywhere.
Given that it's not really reasonable to expect Nintendo to keep doing the same thing they are and actually see a notable uptick using the same model next generation, we're at the point where they have to completely reinvent their strategy if they want to stay in the home console hardware business.
They're quite unlikely to be able to compete with Sony and Microsoft on the high end given that tends to be expensive and they don't have the same demographics. The slightly cheaper system with a new control scheme avenue doesn't seem to be working so hot anymore either now that everyone carries a great casual gaming device in their pocket all day and many have one on the coffee table to boot.
Looking at what's actually selling, it appears to be a mix of games that sell to a wide swath of Nintendo's most faithful audience, who generally seem willing to play on basically anything Nintendo releases, and some kids oriented games like LEGO, Skylanders, and Disney Infinity, who are going to be very price sensitive gamers (well, at least their parents probably will).
Given that anyone who doesn't buy almost every Nintendo game is unlikely to be happy just having a Nintendo home console, I think positioning their next attempt (assuming they're making one, which I believe they said they were) as a notably cheap system you buy in addition to whatever you are going to primarily play games on might be their best option. They could go after way more impulse buyers that way ("I want Smash, and I'll pay $150 to play it!") and cheap things sell very well to both kids and holiday shoppers.
I have more games than I can play, so I'm in no hurry. No reason to support a shitty practice like this. Maybe there'll be a game of the year edition of Alien Isolation with all content on disc later on, then I'll buy that.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
PS4 is a totally different situation from PS3.
Overstock returns perhaps?
Mikey Jr.
Member
They are going to shout that shit from the rooftops. Dont you worry haha.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I don't know.
Last year Nintendo seemed more aggressive with their bundle offerings - Skylanders Bundle could be seen between 220-250$ (though that was most likely to shift excess 8G inventory stock), targeting family audiences.
Now this year, Microsoft is offering Xbox One at 349.99$ with two games comparatively to last year at 499.99$ - 150$ difference shed in 1 year.
Nintendo seems to be playing it safe this holiday season.
They will have a better November due to Smash, but December could be equivalent to last year. I'm hoping not but that's what I am predicting.
I am also predicting a big adoption rate in amiibo figurines
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
We'll find out next month 'cause there's no way they don't take November.
Surprised to see Evil WIthin and Borderlands so high, but it seems sales were overall pretty slow for the month for software (wasn't smash #2 only 500k?).
I think it is interesting to look how destiny has longer legs on xbox (I know, bundles, but no one seems to use that to say sunset should be much higher on the list).
Also the sales for sports games on XB1 are lower than last gen. That bucks the trend for most other multiplatform releases, where both next gens outperform last gen. I wonder if this is the EA access affect, as we do know that it exceeded EA's expectations. I wouldn't be surprised if most sports fans on XB1 used EA access for the discounts. Would be really nice to get more info on digital sales.
I think it is interesting to look how destiny has longer legs on xbox (I know, bundles, but no one seems to use that to say sunset should be much higher on the list).
Also the sales for sports games on XB1 are lower than last gen. That bucks the trend for most other multiplatform releases, where both next gens outperform last gen. I wonder if this is the EA access affect, as we do know that it exceeded EA's expectations. I wouldn't be surprised if most sports fans on XB1 used EA access for the discounts. Would be really nice to get more info on digital sales.
Quite possibly, I just copied the PR.
Well, I fixed the ordered list, but left the PR direct copy alone.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Btw, is October a 4 or 5 week month again? I'm assuming 4 right b/c the first week of October is included in September's NPD? If so, the Wii U only declined slightly since September which had Hyrule Warriors, which isn't that bad I guess. However, it means Disney Infinity and Skylanders didn't do too much for Wii U hardware sales (maybe they will in Nov/December).
September ~18K a week for Wii U
October ~ 17K a week for Wii U
September ~18K a week for Wii U
October ~ 17K a week for Wii U
BishopLamont
Banned
nsmb 2 is selling pretty bad for an evergreen.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
None this month, courtesy of all the people that hassled Aqua last month.Par for the course.
Just waiting for those guess-timations and/or an actual leak
JuanLatino
Member
there is also the GTA V Bundle + Little Big Planet Bundle
Could be, or just a typo.
Officerrob
Banned
Compete against Smash Bros? We are talking console sales here, Nintendo doesn't compete anymore
Yeah... that too. I think the top two titles for November will definitely be Smash Bros U and Dragon Age Inquisition though. Just my personal wager though.
Smash Bros will most certainly drive hardware sales. More than you think. Watch.
I assumed the order was in retail sales alone while numbers included digital. Quite high differences if true.
I wonder if word of mouth just isn't very good.
I really like Mario games and was not pleased with that title, and don't know many who are either.
Now, that's merely anecdotal, but I feel that evergreen's rely a lot on quality to keep them selling.
Also plausible.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Their is a lot of first-person survival horror games out in the market compared to what The Evil Within tries to do.
where is the LBP bundle? Didnt see that one in ads yet.
shinra-bansho
Member
@Niro, mostly agree, would respond more in depth but have to run.
I think Amiibo will be good for generating revenue, but will largely be aimed at their (Nintendo-)core audience, so won't really end up moving hardware. But it's still a good way to increase monetisation of their current installed base.I am also predicting a big adoption rate in amiibo figurines
They do, just not for retail and not for AAA games. And it seems with each passing year, the scope of aaa/retail gets narrower.
That's a good point, since I think Animal Crossing did have a very high digital percentage.
The original DS one did pretty well for itself and that was a lot worse. I suppose it was the first 2D one i a decade or so though.
theprodigy
Member
unless you think it will push it over the Xbox One and/or PS4, then this is pretty irrelevant to the discussion...
BishopLamont
Banned
yeah i think the game just isn't very good, they had alot of juniors working on it iirc, i think ead should have timed the release better and put in a bit more effort, i think going with another artstyle would have done wonders for it also.
yeah it was "new" when it came out and the ds sales propelled nsmb sales also, nsmb2 feels too samey and with the 3ds underperforming this really isn't surprising, i just thought it would have done a bit better though.
AstuteClass
Banned
Man, I wish I knew what that spoiler tag thing meant. I'm not deeply entrenched enough in the NeoGAF wisdom of the ages yet!
Officerrob
Banned
You missed the point, the PS4's install base isn't as big as the PS3's was when several Insomniac games barely sold.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
To be fair the game hasn't done great. Consider that, what, 70-80% of its sales will be in the US, where it's sold around 200+k and because of the time of year it released, it probably won't have any legs because there is so much else to buy.
You can't really think Insomniac will be banging their heads a little they didn't go exclusive on the PS4, game would have probably sold nearly double WW going by install base estimates.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
Wasn't that ostensibly the positioning of the Gamecube though?
Officerrob
Banned
Won't come close to Xbox One or PS4
I wonder if 3D Land could ever go over 4,000,000 in US. MK7 definitely should, though.
About amiibo: I'd say part of the kids audience could be interested. I'm actually wondering if some of them could be interested in just the toys, without having a Wii U.
About amiibo: I'd say part of the kids audience could be interested. I'm actually wondering if some of them could be interested in just the toys, without having a Wii U.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Insomniac first months since the start of last gen (for whenever we get an approximation of Sunset numbers):
Resistance: FOM - 286k (Nov and Dec combined)
Ratchet & Clank Future: ToD - 66k
Resistance 2 - 385k
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time - 100k
Resistance 3 - 180k
Don't see anything here for Ratchet: Into the Nexus.
The game has had pretty decent legs over the past week in the UK (~60% drop w to w), which is the most comparable market, debuted at #1 in Australia as well, and charted in Germany, Sweden, and New Zealand. Wouldn't write it off just yet.
Resistance: FOM - 286k (Nov and Dec combined)
Ratchet & Clank Future: ToD - 66k
Resistance 2 - 385k
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time - 100k
Resistance 3 - 180k
Don't see anything here for Ratchet: Into the Nexus.
The game has had pretty decent legs over the past week in the UK (~60% drop w to w), which is the most comparable market, debuted at #1 in Australia as well, and charted in Germany, Sweden, and New Zealand. Wouldn't write it off just yet.
BishopLamont
Banned
3dland should get to 4m imo, considering its up there with mk7.
amiibo is also for 3ds, which should help it sell regardless
My ex-fiance wants a Luigi Amiibo just because she likes him. She wants a Toad one as well. No purpose other than as shelf toy.
I guess my feelings there would be:
1.) The GameCube did do a lot better than the Wii U.
2.) I was thinking even cheaper. Like a $150 launch and down to $99 quite quickly.
3.) There are more people who play games these days to potentially sell a notably cheap game device to.
Were I in charge of Nintendo I'd probably not even be launching another home console, but I'm just attempting to think of what someone could do if their marching orders were "You have to make another home console."
Man, even that's low as hell considering Resistance was hyped as the PS3's big launch game.
