Sho_Nuff82
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Sony said:
Why would they do this in their own PR?
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Official May 2008 NPD Thread - Wii, GTA IV, and more Wii
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Why would they do this in their own PR?
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I would blame the weak US dollar.eatyobeans said:
Games like GTAIV are preaching to the choir. If MS/Sony want a bigger piece of the market they have to find out why PS2 owners haven't transitioned yet.
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GarthVaderUK said:
They should be doing better though.
Reggie comments on supply problems:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2008/06/wiill-be-back-n.html
Key line:
But wait -- more are on the way. The Japanese game company recently began ramping up its output of Wii consoles, to 2.4 million units a month from 1.8 million. That's the fourth production increase since the console launched in November 2006. The increased supply is just now starting to trickle into retail pipelines, Fils-Aime said. But the factories won't hum at full capacity until later this summer, he said.
If they really start putting out that over 2M a month, supply should be pretty damn good.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2008/06/wiill-be-back-n.html
Key line:
But wait -- more are on the way. The Japanese game company recently began ramping up its output of Wii consoles, to 2.4 million units a month from 1.8 million. That's the fourth production increase since the console launched in November 2006. The increased supply is just now starting to trickle into retail pipelines, Fils-Aime said. But the factories won't hum at full capacity until later this summer, he said.
If they really start putting out that over 2M a month, supply should be pretty damn good.
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fly high ~ayunite~ said:
Media Create like sales have relocated here in NPD. Look for this trend to continue.
Aaronology
Member
yoopoo said:Because showing this kind of emotion isn't easily translated into text...
And just when I was thinking this thread wouldn't deliver. :lol
dammitmattt
Banned
Agent Icebeezy said:
Price Price Price
If it's not as "hot" as the Wii and doesn't sell on buzz, they need to drop the price.
schuelma said:
Should be pretty good, but they are still having issues now with 1.8. My Wii bricked on me this month and I took it in for a replacement at the local Target I got it and notta. That was a Sunday as well about the only day their I have half a chance of catching one anyways.
camineet said:
Eh the 360 will be going for quite some time 2012 is the very earliest and more than likely later imo based on Kim's comments in the last couple of months. 360 has pretty much outsold the Xbox in the UK at very much faster pace than the first. The 360 is also outselling the original by a pretty good pace as well, all at a higher price point than the original. MS will hit there first year of full profit this month on the console there is no turning back now. Money-making and market expansion is the focus and they will give this console the legs it deserves this time around.
thats the worst thing they could docamineet said:
if they really put out the next gen that early that would mean that they would abandon their hardcores + fighting with brand new expensive hardware against the wii which is last last gen...
they need to analyze the wiis success and follow suit not go the way of Xbox 360 and PS3 again
according to 1up its an AFrillen said:
thats the only review i saw
dead souls
Member
Agent Icebeezy said:
Yep.
Hey third parties, time to get your asses in gear!!
neverknowsbest
Member
I wonder how this will turn out in the long run. How was the PS2 doing when it cost $299? It seems like we're kind of reaching steady state for HD consoles doing ~200k units/month at the $350-$500 price point. For the PS2 this wasn't much of a concern cause it was the hottest thing around, so people would either buy the PS2 at $300 or at $250 or at $200 or at $150, etc., but now consumers have a cheap alternative in the Wii, which greatly confuses things. What's the lifecycle of the Wii going to be like? Will the HD consoles get more competitive when their prices drop to below $300? Will Nintendo be forced to drop its price finally?
mysticstylez
Banned
Am I thinking crazy for being shocked that GTA4 isn't selling better? I know it's not the holiday season, but I thought GTA4 would be selling more.
B-Rad Lascelle
Banned
I think I may stick with those numbers despite the 5-week interval.donny2112 said:
Work's been slow. I'm taking vacation time this month.
dammitmattt
Banned
neverknowsbest said:
PS2 was only $300 for about a year and a half. It then dropped immediately to $200, about the same time it got a ton of great games and sales really took off.
dammitmattt
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mysticstylez said:
It's already the best-selling game of the year with only 33 days of sales.
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dammitmattt said:
I know that, everyone knows that. Microsoft is holding the 360 back, that is the sad part about this. I think GTA4 not doing nowhere near expected should cause reality to sit in though. They need to be more proactive. Yeah, they got that $50 deal at Gamestop but they need more visability with sales like what Sony is doing at Wal-Mart.
The Librarian
Banned
Agreed.GarthVaderUK said:
dammitmattt
Banned
Agent Icebeezy said:
I just don't understand it. It's a very short-sighted way of looking at the situation. I would imagine that the user base gains and all that come along with it (accessory sales, game sales, XBL Gold, XBLM) would be more than worth the lost revenues from a $50-100 price drop in the long run.
bigmakstudios
Banned
laserbeam said:
None of which I have any interest in whatsoever. *sigh*
I earnestly wonder when Wii will begin to get a library that comes anywhere near justifying its exorbitant sales numbers. In my eyes, the libraries of PS3, and 360 especially, put Wii's to shame. If motion sensing had proven to have a positive affect on games, I would be a bit more pleased with its dominance. But what has it done aside from simplifying games? The controls are different, but they don't magically make games better...
I really do want to like Wii though. Really... I don't want to feel like some sort of rebel without a cause. But I feel that Wii hasn't improved games at all, and it doesn't have the software library to even justify a purchase, let alone gushing praise, and that's considering MP3 and SMG.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
The biggest news of this month is FAMILY FUCKING WE SKI sitting at NUMBER FUCKING TWELVE. That means it sold at LEAST 90 000 units... and that means it has ALREADY SOLD to over 1/7 of WiiFits "tiny" userbase.
That is insane. I had it pegged to absolutely bomb at under 10k for debut.
The "tide" is indeed turning, but it isn't exactly the way some were hoping.
That is insane. I had it pegged to absolutely bomb at under 10k for debut.
The "tide" is indeed turning, but it isn't exactly the way some were hoping.
dammitmattt
Banned
Fuzzy said:
Probably not. Because it hasn't yet. In the US.
No one cares about US+Canada
Dragona Akehi said:
19/30 are Nintendo titles, not Wii titles. It includes the DS.
they don't really need a price cut until gears 2 is almost out.McHuj said:
MS is still selling, at a very high price considering they only had one minor cut since they been out, so they will maximize that until the fall and then drop it for all the huge holiday titles coming out. sony already cut the ps3 $200 i don't think they can afford another big price cut this year
Dragona Akehi
Retired
dammitmattt said:Probably not. Because it hasn't yet. In the US.
No one cares about US+Canada
19/30 are Nintendo titles, not Wii titles. It includes the DS.
Oops my mistake!
dammitmattt
Banned
kiUNiT said:
I thought it was 21 years? I'm not doing the math, but I trust the source.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
The scary thing about this year is that I really think that MS intends to go into Christmas with the Elite at $399, Premium at $299, and Arcade at $250, with none of their peripheral/service prices dropping.
$100 price drop in 3 years, with the more expensive SKU being at the launch price. :/
The premium needs to be at $199 at this point, but since that definitely isn't going to happen, MS at least needs the splash of a $100 slash - $250 or bust by the end of August.
$100 price drop in 3 years, with the more expensive SKU being at the launch price. :/
The premium needs to be at $199 at this point, but since that definitely isn't going to happen, MS at least needs the splash of a $100 slash - $250 or bust by the end of August.
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dammitmattt said:
Of course it is, it has to be. They were showing 85 dollar gains on the HDD at launch. They have also acknowledged that the mainstream price to take off at is $199 because 80%+ of PS2 sales were done at that time. It's nice that they are getting all of these games from developers. They have exceeded my expectations in that regard. They should reward these companies with some price drops so that they can sell these games.
