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(ONM) Senran Kagura Burst is damaging the industry - here's how to stop it
- Thread starter studyguy
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This whole shitstorm with gaming journalists being babies over every little issue to do with women in video games is always amusing to see, more so because Japan could not give less of a shit. The gaming industry in general continues to show its complete and utter immaturity when it comes to everything; it's a niche game that appeals to a certain insanely small demographic, don't like it? Don't buy it! Bye bye!
The Grim Heaper
Member
It's probably because he doesn't have boobs.
The fanservice / ecchi route brings in some customers and drive away many others. Fringe genres such as shmups benefit because demand has lowered to the point that most likely the absolute core demographic won't be driven away by having to shoot robot / witch girls instead of mecha mecha bosses. I don't find the need to worry about everything "going down the same route," as anything that goes that route likely would not have existed if they didn't account for boosted sales by appeal of fanservice.
Maybe he should have aspired to be more like Roland. Dude just runs into ruins in what I can only guess is just a belt, since you never see his lower half.
R_thanatos
Member
sigh *i'll point you to the senran kagura burst us OT : here
Where you'll find those screenshots : showcasing gameplay , menus and story.
A simple research would have pointed enough info for you to know your subject before talking.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
"A google research to wikipedia and tv tropes is so hard..."
Thanks judge, maybe next time you should inform better just to make your veredict faster.
The Grim Heaper
Member
That's disgusting, let's get this game off the market ASAP.
If anything, the research I did was only to make sure the problem is not with the non japan marketing but with the entire game.
My original words are still working perfectly.
The first comment on the OT is even asking for a NSFW warning =P
The ENTIRE OT is focused more on boobs than the european cover
and yes,
Such writing
Much text
If anything, more research just made me think that the story that other gaffer told me can only be known in a spin off book or something =P
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
And then they guilt trip us because we don't want to explain things that are a google search of distance.
Wha... you are using the images of the OT... the one WE pointed to you... big research... LOL
Serenade_King
Banned
This type of thread is why XSeed doesn't want a fisical release of the game. I can't talk about SK Burst but I really like Shinovi Versus for the chaotic gameplay:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rgNEceF0kM8
I have tried playing two warrior games like One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 and Dynasty Warriors 7 but I still prefer SK:SV a lot more. I just hope XSeed still take into consideration releasing a limited fisical release of Shinovi Versus even if there is negative talk of the game like now.
Ps: are there other games that play like Shinovi Versus? I didn't like the Dynasty Warriors and gameplay wise my favorites are Mirai and Suzune.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rgNEceF0kM8
I have tried playing two warrior games like One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 and Dynasty Warriors 7 but I still prefer SK:SV a lot more. I just hope XSeed still take into consideration releasing a limited fisical release of Shinovi Versus even if there is negative talk of the game like now.
Ps: are there other games that play like Shinovi Versus? I didn't like the Dynasty Warriors and gameplay wise my favorites are Mirai and Suzune.
these games are such a problem to society and the industry that rape and sexual assault numbers have been down year over year near every year since 2003
but we're all horrible peeeeople... everyone knows that the key to a healthy sexual outlook is shame and abstinance to sexual appeals. If you ignore your body everything fixes itself! I bet psycologists would totally agree sexual fantasy is incredibly dangerous and should never be engaged in.
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.... :V
but we're all horrible peeeeople... everyone knows that the key to a healthy sexual outlook is shame and abstinance to sexual appeals. If you ignore your body everything fixes itself! I bet psycologists would totally agree sexual fantasy is incredibly dangerous and should never be engaged in.
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.... :V
If anything, the research I did was only to make sure the problem is not with the non japan marketing but with the entire game.
My original words are still working perfectly.
The first comment on the OT is even asking for a NSFW warning =P
The ENTIRE OT is focused more on boobs than the european cover
and yes,
Such writing
Much text
If anything, more research just made me think that the story that other gaffer told me can only be known in a spin off book or something =P
There is way more text than that in the main missions.
Main mission texts are presented as almost pages rather than what you're seeing and posting which are of "dialogue boxes" for "scenes".
I already used other images =P
But yeah, the main fanbase is totaly not objectifing women
NOT AT ALL
The wiki of the game, where most of the pics I posted are from, say this about the gameplay :
75% of it is NOT ACTUAL GAMEPLAY.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Homunculus
Banned
Clearly, the industry is slowly beginning to change in to Carrie's mother from the movie, um, Carrie.
"I CAN SEE YOUR DIRTY PILLOWS".
"I CAN SEE YOUR DIRTY PILLOWS".
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
I already used other images =P
But yeah, the main fanbase is totaly not objectifing women
NOT AT ALL
.
You know who posted and created the OT? Did you read the tonge in cheek reactions? And how many are commenting about the actual boobs in the thread?
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
No sympathy at all for the men being hurt? So cold.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but, there are no select character missions in Burst. It's all part of the storyline of the game.
As for marketing, yeah sure it's marketed that way, but if you've actually played it, you get a pretty fun beat em up with an actual storyline to it with a very lively cast with their own personalities and personal goals to boot.
I already used other images =P
But yeah, the main fanbase is totaly not objectifing women
NOT AT ALL
Are you seriously implying that having big boobs is sexist? That's pretty hateful towards women.
One: A picture of a human woman is not the thing itself. Pictures aren't sentient. You're not demeaning a picture by treating at it as a picture rather than a real woman. That just means you're sane.
Two: Appreciating artistic depictions of the female form doesn't mean someone treats flesh-and-blood women as mere objects for their amusement, either. I think the average person has a slightly better grasp on reality than you (and other people who like using this argument) are willing to give them credit for.
Three: You're misusing the word "misogynist". STOP IT.
That is not what the article is preaching. The author's points is that games like SK are damaging to (Japanese) society because of the unrealistic and distasteful portrayal of a woman's physique. Which in turn moves men away from giving attention to real women.
Read this for example. I don't think it's healthy for Japan that such games (and anime, manga, etc) are incredibly popular.
Admittedly, I also enjoy some of the content that's being put on blast, but I can recognize the damage it does.
RobFox64tm
Member
It's funny to me to watch GAF try and justify clearly sexist imagery as "over the top" or "lighthearted." Not that I think it should be eliminated entirely, mind you, but it's much more prevalent in video games than it is in other media; so much so, that I do think it's damaging to the mediums image. I think a little self control on this front wouldn't be such a bad thing really.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Problem is that is social issue that is not limited to games or even sex (Japan's Lost Decade http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Decade_(Japan) )
Gaf Hivemind strikes again?
Roland is amazing. he doesnt need clothes, when even his belt is so goddamn manly
His belt actually contains the spirit of Macho Man Randy Savage.
Nightengale
Member
Serenade_King
Banned
Majukun
Member
i was assuming this thread was about hating something..who is liking what here?
So having fantasies and enjoying what you like is sexist? How repulsive, probably even worse because you blame the decline of Japanese culture on video games.
FlyingSaucer
Banned
Thankfully, the Thought Police is here to tell you how much of a despicable human being you are 
I like Cool Bro Katsuragi, I find it very fitting with the original character ;p
I like Cool Bro Katsuragi, I find it very fitting with the original character ;p
Screw the mediums "image", people should just make what they want without limiting creativity.
I never said any of it was sexist, I simply said that it's damaging to their society. Please read properly.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
And please, read about the economic and sociocultural issues. This games are, at worst, symptom. Like CoD and violence.
Sorry, I'm on my phone. However I have to strongly disagree, considering GTA doesn't make millions of people kill others. Video games are unrelated to thd issue at hand.
Challenge accepted.
I ignored every comment about getting new and smaller outifits and focused more on "the actual boobs" in the thread.
This made most of the comments come from the pre-release discussion of the game, since after you don't discuss about boobs, but how embarassing is clothing damage on the subway =P
Also ignored the "flat = trap" discussion because I can live without transphobic comments
How's the plot?
There are flat girls in this?
Digital only? How am I supposed to resell it when I'm done with it?
Can you free view the boob models in 3D? I thought I read something about not being able to do that.
And if this got released in the US on a NINTENDO system, what are the chances of the Vita version coming out here?
Man oh man - with this plus AquaPazza dropping this month - it's boobs everywhere!
Downloaded this earlier and played a bit. Really liking it so far. I've only done 3 missions but the combat is really fun.
I really like the 3D in this game. Boobs coming out of the screen.
Framerate is pretty bad but it doesn't really bother me. Oh yeah and playing dress up is a lot of fun too.
Been eyeing this up in an entirely wholesome way recently. Then I have to remind myself that I don't have a 3DS.
This man gets it. It's worth noting that the two best characters both wear gothic outfits. And have the smallest / largest breasts of the cast.
Man some of the characterbackstories are depressing.
I love Hibari's victorypose. <3jiggle
huh... didn't know asuka's VA is so... talented.
Are you serious right now? Because you are flat out wrong.
75% of it is NOT ACTUAL GAMEPLAY.
The first sentence describes the type of game it is (blame Japan for allowing devs to call it whatever sub-genre they want). The second sentence describes how the 3D feature is used.The other two describes the gameplay in a basic way. So it's all gameplay related.
It's actually missing something known as frantic mode in the description. It's a mode that allows you to start the mission in your undergarments, but gives you a giant boost in speed and attack but the defense takes a big hit as well.
I'm not seeing how "sexist imagery" (it's really not btw) like Senran Kagura is so much more prevalent in video games. These type of games are so niche that they have no hope in hell of affecting gaming's image whatsoever. Also, why do we care about the medium's image? Why do developers who like putting the life and the hometown in their games supposed to care about the medium's image?
EDIT: And like another poster said, you are incredibly wrong with the bolded.
I did a quick scan of the article you replied with, and there seems to be no mention of Japan's social issues.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Woah... some are shameless... other kind of not.
Well, good for you shame list. At least you could read about the chracters of the game than responding a challange that I not even issued.
Senran Kagura Burst is not over the top?
I agree that there's a lot of sexism in video games but I really can't understand why games like this or Dragon's Crown are the catalyst for this discussion.