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Phil Spencer: MS will spend money on marketing and developing Rise of the Tomb Raider
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overdrivex
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its getting a big deal of attention
HORRORSHØW
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Dragonborn
Member
Not the good kind though
That's an ambiguous answer, brought about by a deal that makes it ambiguous whether it is going to a certain platform. Its how these things have always been.
So he can't even get his message straight in all his interviews. Great.
Sony at least had no problems letting Sean Murray tell us a PC version of NMS was definitely coming soon after the PS4 one though. Not saying the deal is any better but at least there's no attempts to bullshit or confuse us there.
From my understanding the team at No Man's Sky had a flood and lost a lot of their equipment including PCs and hard drives. Sony stepped in, bought them equipment, and helped with some development. Now, instead of coming to PC/PS4 it's coming to PS4 then PC.
I could be misinformed though.
Edit: Regardless it's not close to comparable when SE "didn't need help" to make this.
Edit 2: So it still seems to be coming to PC and PS4 at the same time, if that's true then you can't bring up NMS.
toxiichollow
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I doubt phil was the person who sighed that deal, seeing how the deal is company wide and not only Xbox.
overdrivex
Banned
you are not going to get any sort of answer till the game is closer to release. there is a ton of things outside game developemtn that change before a game is ready for release
You know, Kagari and you are going to be ignored. It looks like they're trying to reinburse SE for dev costs and pay for possible console exclusivity.
I agree with the point of them not expecting this, but then again, how do you not expect it. Spencers whole thing is "he is one of us, he is a gamer" he didn't see the PR nightmare this would create, over Tomb Raider no less, a game that does not push consoles, if you're going to take that giant risk, do it with a game that matters
Neuromancer
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Ah I see, thanks. I thought this was another Bloodborne type deal but evidently it's not.
Dragonborn
Member
Um, no? It's an answer given by the devs. You realize they're a very small team, right? Xbox is probably in the cards, just a while later
Megatron
Member
Really? Then why did Sony moneyhat it? It still came out on PC the same time. You're saying Sony just gave square money for no reason? That's really strange.
Except Kagari is here, and that's what I referenced. Again, if you want to believe this nonsense be my guest. Problem is, we're on GAF - and we have plenty of people who do know, if you know which posters to read. Seems you simply need to be less naive if you believe the game didn't have a chance of coming out before, or that it wasn't going to be yet another hugely budgeted checklist AAA game.
By the way, my comment had nothing to do with the possibility of them possibly pumping more money into the franchise. Microsoft could do that. It's only that SquareEnix needed exactly zero dollars to make a huge follow up to Rise of Tomb Raider available on multiple platforms. That part is a fact. Microsoft has done nothing altruistic in picking this up.
Whether it goes on the Xbone depends on MS' shitty parity clause. They won't know until they get dev kits.
Yea but is he talking about this specific game or the franchise itself?
Dude, it's really crazy how people are acting like he didn't say "duration" in one interview and "like DR3" (which had a duration) in another. Coming to PS4 (which is what I see people argue about) is not his job and saying it's NOT coming to PS4 is also not his job. He doesn't have to mention anything about PS4 lineup if he doesn't want to and people are "upset" about that. It's really baffling.
Mysterious
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I think this game will be like a Resident Evil 4 situation. Xbox One = Gamecube, PS2 = PS4.
PS2/PS4 sales were too large to ignore, but the original release (GCN/X1) will have stronger sales simply due to having the title first.
PS2/PS4 sales were too large to ignore, but the original release (GCN/X1) will have stronger sales simply due to having the title first.
Or the journalist edited bits out.
Still on you for not taking 5 seconds to do a search and learn what's going on.
Let's use some logic here, if the deal has a duration, and he already stated he didn't buy the franchise, and he said it's up to SE what they do after the duration of the deal has expired, then where does that leave us?
It's a timed exclusive.
sublimit
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Maybe SE can't talk about other versions until the contract with MS expires.
SEGAvangelist
Member
This is what I'm wondering too. If so, they should have waited to announce it.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Has this been posted?http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.php?p=2032033&postcount=1089
Driber said:
Honey Bunny
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Many Playstation owners' patronage of the Tomb Raider series stretches much further back than the Uncharted series. You can't just replace it.
StrongBlackVine
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By saying the deal is similar to DR3 and Ryse he already confirmed a PC version. So now we know it is timed exclusive that is coming to PC. If it was never coming to PS4 it does him no good to keep it a secret.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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I think this as well. But I honestly don't think square will bite. Best case scenario is a 12 month exclusive on consoles, 6 months on PC.
The game is coming to PS4 in some form. The question is when.
ERMint13
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As people say this really might end up hurting more then it helps.
Sure SE/CD got some money out of this but what happens when TR sells maybe average to above average on X1. If it stays exclusive to X1 and the next TR comes out in say 2017, why would PS/PC users want anything to do with it?
MS isn't coming across to PC or PS players very well in this whole thing. Why the hell would I buy your console? Just so I can give you more reason to throw money at previous multi-plat games?
Sure SE/CD got some money out of this but what happens when TR sells maybe average to above average on X1. If it stays exclusive to X1 and the next TR comes out in say 2017, why would PS/PC users want anything to do with it?
MS isn't coming across to PC or PS players very well in this whole thing. Why the hell would I buy your console? Just so I can give you more reason to throw money at previous multi-plat games?
I can't watch it right now, but if that's the case, that makes me a little less salty, lol. Carry on folks.
overdrivex
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nvm
Fallout-with-swords
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This is off topic do we think we will see any of the other third party exclusives on PS4? Dead Rising, Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, Scalebound? Or just PC?
Spencer has been part of ms since he began working at ms. Dunno why people pretend he is some kind of messianic figure. Whatever helps u sleep at night.
Now if you'll excuse me I am going to go troll brohei broshida on the twitter
bananafactory
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The thing a lot of people don't realize with indie devs is that Sony has fostered such a good relationship with them the last few years that they haven't needed to buy exclusivity.
You can look at comments made by Mike Bithell (Volume), Jonathan Blow (The Witness), or Lorne Lanning (Oddworld). There's a reason that none of these games had (or will have) an XB1 version at launch, and that's simply that Sony's platform made more sense to develop for at first, and that is where they put their focus.
You can look at comments made by Mike Bithell (Volume), Jonathan Blow (The Witness), or Lorne Lanning (Oddworld). There's a reason that none of these games had (or will have) an XB1 version at launch, and that's simply that Sony's platform made more sense to develop for at first, and that is where they put their focus.
Final Boss
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You were naive enough to believe he was wasn't anything but a corporate mouth piece
"But he came out in a limbo shirt and jeans!"
what makes you think scalebound and sunset overdrive will hit pc
When the devs get actual dev kits and whether or not MS decides to enforce their parity clause.
look at this, after they bought permanent Titan fall exclusivity
one of the top xbox guys said the following.
"Sorry, PlayStation 4: Titanfall exclusive to Xbox One, Xbox 360, and PC for ‘the life of the title"- Yusef mehdi
So yes, they can say that its not coming to ps4.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/474250/interviews/interview-xbox-head-phil-spencer-on-tomb-raider-and-ones-digital-future/
It's basically a transcript. I really doubt they edited anything out.
It is a long ways off. So by the time it comes out, there'll be a lot more games released, plus there is more game reveals at the Game Conferences between now and then. Therefore, it will need to be special or it will probably become lost in the myriad of other games.
I think it probably wasn't worth it to have Microsoft exclusivity, and I don't know if price they paid was worth it to Square Enix to release it on one platform, especially seeing as the last Tomb Raider sold twice as much on PS4.
I think it probably wasn't worth it to have Microsoft exclusivity, and I don't know if price they paid was worth it to Square Enix to release it on one platform, especially seeing as the last Tomb Raider sold twice as much on PS4.
Blue oyster
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We're gonna need a bigger petition.
RyanPierre
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Jimmyfenix
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Didn't RE4 sell better on PS2 though? I can't remember.
Yup Phil was a main figure in that deal.
Then it's more than likely not coming to XBO unless they got rid of their clause and I missed it.