My guess is that this is one of those features that will be "subject to change" and it'll be revoked or pared down later on. This screams as a last minute addition to help combat the bad press during the launch period...just my impression.
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Phil Spencer: You can share your Xbox One games with any 10 people
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My guess is that this is one of those features that will be "subject to change" and it'll be revoked or pared down later on. This screams as a last minute addition to help combat the bad press during the launch period...just my impression.
that makes no sense.
yankeehater
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But they announced this at the reveal event before there was any bad press.
statham
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you want different people buying those games, not 1 person. If you have 10 in your family, each should buy 1 game and share. more people could play since its owner + 1 that can be played concurrently.
There was bad press way before the reveal from leaks. Adam Orth says what up. Not saying it was or wasnt a reaction to it tho.
This is assuming that the college even allows Xbox Live to communicate over their internet.
Manmademan
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seems likely. otherwise we'd run into situations like:
Joe buys 10 new games day 1, shares them with bob.
Joe unplugs his xbox on day 2, sells back all 10 games.
Joe continues to play these games via bobs xbox, never plugging his machine back in.
granted, it's likely the machine will still check in via standby, so I don't think logging into xbl manually every day should be required to share games.
yankeehater
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The online check in for shared games is 1 hour. The check in for games you own is 24 hours. Unplugging the XB1 wont help you at all.
statham
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what do you count as websites? the OP has the penny-arcade article.
Future PhaZe
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Lots of issues with that then if we're talking 8 of 10 people probably getting real salty.
But between just two guys though...games would essentially turn into being just 30 dollars new, nevermind if the used game platform shit actually still results in decent savings..
something to think about...need clarification.
Manmademan
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that was my point. if the host machine can't or doesn't check in every 24 hours, it's likely to block access to the library.
if it didn't, gaming the system would be laughably easy.
Game Room. What a joke that was/is. I wonder how long Gerstmann kept up with buying every single game release.
Miles Quaritch
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Yep. The $100 price difference doesn't help either. MS have misjudged the market with the price.
Severely.
yankeehater
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The host console will definitely have to check in, there is no way they are going to let you share games if you havent checked in.
Also the only way to trade in a game is to deactivate it from your account.
Phawx
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I don't think he's talking about Game Room. He's talking about how you could play XBLA games on two different 360's but only purchasing the game once.
Well really it'd just be the sharer's console that needs to check in. The owner's library is known in the cloud and will be disabled there when they sell it back to the Gamestop.
Phawx
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Thank goodness.
Manmademan
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agree completely. it's important to note that the xbox is never really "off" though, otherwise turning it on via voice command wouldn't work.
the only way for it not to be auto checking in once a day is to literally unplug it from the power or ethernet.
Phawx
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Technically the PS4 does this as well.
Miles Quaritch
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Still rounding up the answers?
Xbox 1's Doritos edition
Source : http://majornelson.com/2013/06/13/win-a-special-mountain-dew-doritos-xbox-one-promotional-package/
Source : http://majornelson.com/2013/06/13/win-a-special-mountain-dew-doritos-xbox-one-promotional-package/
It makes total sense if it is designed for a literal family and not for "hey peeps let's share all our gamez so we dont's have to buys our owns."
Future PhaZe
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How many people can play the shared family games at once? If its literally all 10 then damn son. Day 1.
You'd just have a guy you trusted with a paypal account, have everyone send him the measley 6 bucks or whatever, he buys it and knows his internet connection/situation is stable, and everyone profits?
Can't be this simple..
You'd just have a guy you trusted with a paypal account, have everyone send him the measley 6 bucks or whatever, he buys it and knows his internet connection/situation is stable, and everyone profits?
Can't be this simple..
statham
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It begins! or ends....
beaten but at least I have a screen shot
Hell yes, swing it home Major.
Sales of games might plummet, but this gen they're making a profit of the hardware. If everyone is buying their own console this would be great for Microsoft.
TheChewyWaffles
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1 family member or 1 family member + original owner?
in the next gen the bolded would most likely be purchased from a digital store
why directly undermine that?
yankeehater
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They have been very clear about this part. Only 1 person on your share list can access it at any given time. Spreading the cost of 1 game among 10 people would never work.
dragonelite
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Because people want a physical disk?
beaten but at least I have a screen shot
They need make a video where they show this doesn't have to be fancy something sony did a 20~40 sec video.
1)Your room.
2)Add friend(longer then 30days) to family library.
3)Share game.
4)Switch to friend room
5)friend sees hes into the shared library
6)downloads the game for like 5 sec uuber speed internet like in ps4 video.
7)Sees play option start
8)Start playing the game
9)Sees both players character in ryse or race against each other in forza 5.
Future PhaZe
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Ok then.
Sounds like it'll be awesome down the run when there are enough games out and peoples backlogs are big enough for everyone to basically be playing something different between each other, but for the most part relatively useless for the hardcore gamer.
Still a huge feature for casuals I guess.
crazygambit
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Actually it does make some sense. This is a family plan after all, it makes sense there just one head of the family account that controls everything. It'd be nice if MS spoke up and explained how the hell this works, but I guess that's too much trouble.
There's debate about whether more than one family member can have access to the shared list at the same time. The consensus seems to be leaning towards no. Therefore it's useless for big backlogs.
Zoe
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the latter
Well, if you have one friend to play with it's basically $30 for a game. Still largely appeals to the hardcore fan base.
Yes, you can only have one 'member' of the family accessing the library at a time, aside from you who always has access to your games since you're the head.
Hahaha! That's a good one! This is a neat feature, but it's nothing the PS3 doesn't already do as far as digital goes. Disc-based games can't be shared on PSN though, so if you're really looking to shaft devs and pubs of more of their potential sales like they all say we are with used games, go for this one! Nah but really, it sounds pretty cool, just not something that would win the console war for MS.
It's a nice solution except only one of your friends can be logged into your library at a time other than you. You'll have to schedule with them - if you can get past that though it has a lot of potential.
That's definitely an advantage this system has over disc-lending, but it has its limits as well with the restriction on the number of people in the library. There may also be other restrictions in place we don't know of yet. We need clarification from MS...
Yep, but you're sharing account details so there's much less mucking about with strangers - it's all kept within good friends and family. That and disc-based games can't be shared.
There's been a lot of confusion about everything because of the OP and the Xbox support twitter, which caused debate over the official policy listed on the Xbox One website. We had actually mostly figured out a solid idea of how it worked around page 43-44, but of course people tend not to read that many pages of text so they continue to bring the discussion back to ground zero
but its already been stated it doesn't have to be literal families.
How so?
Xbox 1's Doritos edition
Source : http://majornelson.com/2013/06/13/win-a-special-mountain-dew-doritos-xbox-one-promotional-package/
Why don't you make a thread about it?
Yep
They really should change the name to Xbox Groups or something if they are going to come out and say they know that non-family members can use the feature.
Phawx
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First link I found: http://gamerant.com/ps4-internet-connection-drm/
"Yoshida doesnt say that gamesr might want to keep the PS4 connected to the Internet because of DRM, though; he is referring to the consoles new background downloading capabilities. Using a dedicated processor, the PS4 will be able to download games, update software, or stream to the PS Vita. The processor will also keep active while the console is in low power mode, downloading updates while the PS4 is actually asleep."
Miles Quaritch
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Each PSN account has two activations. You can share your log in details with one friend and they can download all your DLC, PSN games, themes, etc but I'm pretty sure you can't do it with retail games.
It's clearly not the same unless he meant you can lend your game discs, but I can't imagine someone taking every single game they own and lending them a friend as would be the case with this system if the info is accurate.
Alx
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Well, "group" is lower than "friends". What's closer than friends, apart from family ? "Best buddies" ?
Maybe that could work.
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