Careful with LG Tv's, lots of them are RGBW this year, not giving the full 4k resolution. I returned my 55uh6150 due that (and the poor blacks due IPS panel) and got a Samsung ku6290 on sale for $699 on best buy. Great blacks, hdr and has super low input lag in game mode (around 17 ms). Couldn't be happier.
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By right OLEDs should have very low lag, something with LG?
ss_lemonade
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PC gaming/hardware supports HDR on TVs now? Or is this something like non native at the moment?
Backfoggen
Banned
Only the B6 has lag worth noting.
Its not native, but def noticeable and pretty cool.
Maroon Gamer
Member
Which GPU do you have? What games have you played in 4K?
Jigolo
Member
BRocknRolla
Member
I see this popping up on the older cheaper TVs. I'm not sure what it's really referencing, but I get the sense that it's not HDR10 or Dolby Vision.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
HDR is going to improve for years to come, there's no real future proofed sets out there right now. The nit levels are going to increase all the time.
In 5 years or so time we might have established some kind of standard.
In 5 years or so time we might have established some kind of standard.
Monty Mole
Member
B6 is 44ms, Euro version with latest firmware anyway.
That sounds really nice, but how is it an OLED killer? Honest question.
That's pretty close to the EG9100 i own, which is pretty responsive. Didn't have a problem with any game (to add some context, i played Bayonetta 2 amongst other games and it was perfectly fine).
I have a EVGA GTX 980 SC. In 4K at 60hz I am playing Overwatch, DmC and Dishonored. They all look amazong, especially DmC. At 1080p 96hz I played the last 3 levels of Doom which also looked phenomenal upscaled and the framerate feels great. Played a couple matches of Battlefront on PS4 and that also looked fantastic.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
And there will be something else that "is going to improve for years to come" to take its place.
It's kind of funny how people perceive there to be some kind of standard for video content right now, when it's really a mix of 1080i, 720p, and 1080p at various bitrates and video codecs.
Backfoggen
Banned
Yeah that's why I decided to go with a less expensive Samsung as a TV for now until all the HDR/HDMI 2.1/Dolby Vision stuff gets cleared up. I will spend the Big Bucks once there is more HDR content and stuff is standardized.
Maroon Gamer
Member
Nice!!! I saw this TV in a local store and it's amazing. Maybe next year when the price drops a little I try to buy it.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Yes indeed, same gameplan for me!
I'm locking in on the Sammy 60KS7000 UK version (equivalent to US KS8000 I believe).
A solid TV with great ~21ms input lag for gaming. And a fraction of the cost of the OLED's.
Hopefully my nearly 10 year old LCD Samsung TV lasts a few more years. I want a new TV but I'm waiting for both the amount of available content to be larger and also been waiting to see where the 4K sets settle in terms of what features are essential. I'm hoping to wait out this Holiday season and jump on a big set, 40" at least and hoping for 55" or even 60" beyond for an OLED 4K set with manageable input lag and HDR for like $2K to $2.5K.
Its going to be amazing going from my reliable but really out of date TV to something like 4K with HDR, I can barely wait lol. Hopefully we'll have some consoles and such out then that will let me really take advantage of them.
Its going to be amazing going from my reliable but really out of date TV to something like 4K with HDR, I can barely wait lol. Hopefully we'll have some consoles and such out then that will let me really take advantage of them.
PeterVenkman
Member
Small update - I've finally had some luck in removing flickering and lost connections with my LG B6 and my PC in full range 4:4:4 RGB color mode. if anyone else is having connection issues and is on an Nvidia card, try turning off digital audio output in the nvidia control panel. I haven't had my tv lose connection in days now!
How are you finding the input lag on the B6? Noticeable for you?
PeterVenkman
Member
I've actually been hesitant to weigh in on the input lag for the B6 because I really don't notice it. I absolutely believe people who have measured it with higher lag than the other 2016 models, so maybe it something I'm not sensitive to.
I had a friend come over and play DOOM with a keyboard and mouse, and he also found it to be snappy. Been playing tons of Overwatch on a steam controller as well, and I like it.
If you're sensitive to input lag though, maybe see if you can test one in person? I'm loving mine so far.
Hey guys, glad I was told you were hiding out in here. 
Is there any real advantage to picking a 65" oled over a 55" one in terms of gaining certain benefits provided by the oled medium?
Some people I know say to not even consider an oled TV size at 55".
Just curious on your thoughts over the 55" vs 65" debate.
Is there any real advantage to picking a 65" oled over a 55" one in terms of gaining certain benefits provided by the oled medium?
Some people I know say to not even consider an oled TV size at 55".
Just curious on your thoughts over the 55" vs 65" debate.
Dr. Zoidberg
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I've never heard anyone say anything about OLED being any different at 55 vs 65. Now I HAVE heard people debate the usefulness of 4K at 55", but that's not specific to OLED. You'd have the same debate on LCDs.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
I think 55inch is about the minimum to make 4K worth it, and 65inch TV's 'make the most of it'. Other than that no real technical reasons.
On regular LCD, some of the larger high end TV's have full array dimming which is much better than edge lit. But that's not applicable on the OLED's.
On regular LCD, some of the larger high end TV's have full array dimming which is much better than edge lit. But that's not applicable on the OLED's.
Yappadappadu
Member
From what we currently know of the 2016 OLED sets, the 65" can go a bit brighter than the 55", but not like the latter aren't already bright enough.
If the 55" size fits you better, then go for it.
If the 55" size fits you better, then go for it.
Yes, maybe it was the usefulness aspect of 4K at 55" that I wasn't remembering correctly.
Thanks guys. I'll most likely be buying something towards the end of the year.
guitarguy316
Member
It's all about how close you sit to have 4K benefits...55 is fine depending on distance...
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
daaaaaaamn, not even close. Only lost daytime viewing by 0.4 points.
Yappadappadu
Member
Would have expected the Samsung and Sony TVs to get better color accuracy scores than the LG OLED. LG's calibration tools still have room for improvement AFAIK. If one of Panasonic's latest TVs (not available in the US) had taken part in the shootout, then it probably would have won that category.
Damn that's a significant difference in nearly every category. I'm hoping 4K OLED's with all the bells and whistles will have dropped to decent price levels.
disappeared
Banned
So I've settled on two tvs. One is a Vizio 32" 1080p and the other is a vizio 40" that is 720p. The former is this years' model, the latter is last years'. Both are exactly the same price. Would you guys go with a smaller tv that does better resolution, or a larger tv that does slightly lower res but you get a larger picture? I'll be sitting about 6 feet back. Looking to pull the trigger tonight or tomorrow. Suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.
Jigolo
Member
wow the 940d is good. wonder why there hasn't been many reviews on it
farmerboy
Member
Still disappointed Panasonics DX900 series was not included. Not that it would have bested the OLED (though colour accuracy is supposedly outstanding), more that I would have liked to seen how the Sony Samsung and Panny offerings compared.
Simpsonology
Neo Member
Yeah, I think I will go with Sony. Thanks!
Insane Metal
Member
Finally the OLED is getting better panels.
guitarguy316
Member
Probably because it only comes in 75in right?
If you want flat, the 2016 LG E series is cheaper than the G level. The B series is the cheapest but I'd you game on it be aware of increased input lag.
There is no "win" here. HDR10 is the facto standard and is what is required for UHD brays. Dolby is just an extended gamut etc and not a standard required. I woukd guess games will also require HDR10 as a standard and some will have Dolby vision as a nice extra. If you get and HDR10 you shoukd be fine as all bdr games shoukd have as a minimum.
DemonCleaner
Member
really expected those 4K OLEDs to roll out sooner
Backfoggen
Banned
I've been looking at that one too and I heard it has a bigger bezel than the other sizes. Can you maybe report once you get it? It wouldn't be a dealbreaker, just want to know how it looks. Can't find an actual pic of that size online anywhere.
OG_Original Gamer
Member
Dolby just announced a deal with Lionsgate, about a week ago. Dolby Cinema to Dolby Vision, all there films will be color graded under Dolby tech. Currently the extent of the deal, doesn't mention UHD blu-ray. Once the first Dolby Vision capable player releases next year, then we'll see DV disc titles.
You will, but that doesn't mean HDR10 is going the way of the dodo. As I said, HDR10 is *mandatory* for any bluray that has HDR. It's part of the UHD Bray specification. So if a title had DV, it must also have HDR10 as its mandatory. Of course DV will be nicer and if your tv supports it, you'll see it.
Hopefully, and more than likely games will also follow suit using the standard since doesn't require any additional licensing or chips. Or both, why not, as UHD blurays.
guitarguy316
Member
Appreciste you testing for us. Have you run it on any further recent software updates? Are you still getting 44ms? What about other inputs or settings tested as you said to lower it?
I really wish someone in the US could test their b series on the latest software. The input lag is only thing scaring me off the b series. Yet I don't really want or need the soundbar, 3D, or picture on glass of E series.
PeterVenkman
Member
Would love to help if there's a method other than buying a Leo Bodnar test kit.
guitarguy316
Member
do you have a b6 and latest firmware? what types of games do you play and what's your thoughts?