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PlayStation Now announced (PS1/2/3 streaming to TVs/Tablets/Phones/PSes, Summer 2014)
- Thread starter Canis lupus
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Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
5mbp/s? Guess this won't work in Australia, especially now that the government have fucked us over by scrapping the NBN.
TrojanBlade
Member
Or like providing BC for the last gen when a next gen starts. When PS5 comes out, PS4 games will start to be streamed on PSNow. If they let you play your old PS4 library through PSNow, that would be end of bitching about BC. I say Sony has a great vision for the future of gaming. Gaikai deal was a brilliant move by Sony.
I think the difference is in perception, not technology. Onlive portrayed themselves to be the "future of gaming" and as a replacement for traditional means of gaming in the living room. This may not have been intentional, but that's how it was perceived. Playstation now is being positioned as adding incremental value, so the expectations on it are more grounded in reality.
If I have a PS4 and I can play PS3/PS2 games with it (albeit with some expected compromises in performance), it becomes a lot more cohesive experience than having to deal with an unfamiliar piece of hardware and service.
If MS comes up with something similar, I think that would be seen as a more promising service than Onlive as well, even if the underpinning technology and shortcomings are similar.
TheLaughingStock
Member
Same problems. Better content.
My vita is about to get a helluva lot more play out of it. This and P4 is all I needed. Now I am satisfied with my purchase. Thanks, Sony.
Going to replay the entire Uncharted trilogy first. Then God of War III perhaps. Followed by some Heavy Rain. The golden age of gaming is here. Yay me!
Going to replay the entire Uncharted trilogy first. Then God of War III perhaps. Followed by some Heavy Rain. The golden age of gaming is here. Yay me!
Yeah but eventually someone is going to come up with the idea to make gaming stream based or something which allows anyone to play new game on whatever device they own making consoles obsolete.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
I should buy a vita
darkistheway
Member
How much of my data cap will I have to use to play these games?
One thing that would be cool is if they give you free access to anything you purchased digitally on ps3 since it's trivial to verify that you own the game by looking at your purchase history. Trying to think if that could be exploited by sharing login details but I don't think it could. Maybe that's expecting a little much but it would be nice not to be paying again for stuff you already own.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
krypt0nian
Banned
My VITA (and PS3 and PS4 and iPhone and iPad) is ready!
This would be a wonderful way to leverage the MVP community! *hint* *hint*
This would be a wonderful way to leverage the MVP community! *hint* *hint*
Mashin Haters
Member
a new ISP service hahaha
Essentially it'll be around the same as streaming a 720p video, Bandwidth isn't that important, it's the latency that's the struggle.
So 4 hours of gaming woud use about as much of your data as watching 4 hours of 720p Video. I'm assuming It'd be streaming at 720p/30 of course.
They said Closed Beta, no idea how to get your name into the pool of potential Testers though.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Damn! I'm so interested in this. The possiblities are really fantastic...
yurinka
Member
Yes, Nintendo will do it, but in the year 3529. Remember they are discovering now HD and the proper online.
IrishNinja
Member
this is me - i dig the concept, eager to see how it actually executes.
interesting sidenote: i recently read that Kalinske wanted to do something like this with Sega Channel for Saturn nearly 2 decades ago, how crazy is that?
Is it just me or does it seem like the Vita benefits the least from this?
Since PlayStation Now is coming tablets and phones, it really magnifies all the current flaws that the Vita has with Remote Play like:
Lack of R2/3 L2/3
No external video
No support for the DS3/DS4
1080 and 720 don't scale down evenly into the Vita's resolution
More than anything, it makes me want a Shield, something I never thought I'd say...
Since PlayStation Now is coming tablets and phones, it really magnifies all the current flaws that the Vita has with Remote Play like:
Lack of R2/3 L2/3
No external video
No support for the DS3/DS4
1080 and 720 don't scale down evenly into the Vita's resolution
More than anything, it makes me want a Shield, something I never thought I'd say...
Dr. Buni
Member
No, but maybe you can play vanilla Persona 4 on your PS3 and PS4.
I guess my plan of getting a Vita eventually lives on.
I need my own copy, I have the need to play through it, again.
Can I play P5 on a PS4?
Dr. Buni
Member
I guess so, but that will depend of Atlus. So far we don't know if third party titles will be available for streaming, do we?
Chronology
Member
The first one works reasonably well with the rear touch pad, though I'll give you points two and three. I'm not sure if I follow you with the last one, though; Vita's resolution is exactly a quarter of full HD, so I would imagine it would scale fine.
They aren't going to let you stream PS4 games because they want that HW and SW money.
DeadlyVirus
Member
I really don't like the idea of paying to play games I already own digitally and are sitting on my SEN account
TrojanBlade
Member
Yep and Sony will be ahead of the curve as they have already started it (also onLive). They can potentially have no new console released after PS4 and still give us "Uncharted:the next-next gen" which we can play on Bravia TVs or Vita or PS4 or any other supported device. But again this all depends when will average network speed is 10-15+ mbps for most consumers with no data limits. It will be interesting to see what happens after this gen.
oh dammit, i misread the thing, I thought you can also stream PS4 games as well.
welp, looks like i have to get a PS4
DeadlyVirus
Member
Don't expect this so soon. This would require all the new hardware to be on the Sony servers, which would mean a massive investment with no guarantees of income in return
panthapanda
Member
Registered. Interesting to see what games they roll out first.
encephalon
Member
Sounds intriguing, yet at the same time worrying. I'm guessing this replaces BC for PS1 and PS2 games indefinitely.
Man, I really hope not. Would probably be a deal breaker for me.
Registered already? How and where???
whoops, didn't realize that; I must have done my math wrong. Man, a 1080p game scaled down to the Vita's OLED would be beautiful then...
yurinka
Member
This is to stream full games, like Gaikai did since 2008 and PS4 HW is designed and optimized for it, unlike XB1. MS has no experience regarding game streaming.
MS promised to do things in the cloud everybody already did (like matchmaking, or to download ghosts for racing games) and a stuff that nobody did and like to use Kinect for hardcore games seems technically impossible due to HW limits: they say that would help the games to look better by computing a part of the game in the cloud and to stream it to the console, where another part is computing. This doesn't make sense because to synchronize both parts would require too much time.
But then sort of clarified that would use it for things that aren't done on the fly in real time so would be like if they read it from the disk or from a last gen server. More than a cloud seems smoke to confuse the mass with tecchy talk that sounds promising for PR bullshit, like Kinect was last gen.
So they are totally different things, and MS still have to prove somehting special not done in other places before.
Did they confirm it? I thought that they would follow their tradition of don't make you pay twice the digital games you already own in other platfroms.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Microsoft ' s problem is that their back catalog isn't as good as Sony's on the whole.
cuzintheboss
Banned
How do you sign up for the beta?